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#4251: Aug 18th 2018 at 9:54:34 AM

Oh, definitely. At this point I think the only way to save it is a complete reboot with a brand new ruleset.

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#4252: Aug 18th 2018 at 3:24:49 PM

Yeah, the game in the beginning was a lot more slow paced than it is now. There weren't THAT many ways to special summon monsters and some of the cards were absurdly busted like raigeki or mirror force. I think it's mostly because the original card game wasn't necessarily created to be an actual playable TCG, it was just something that could be entertaining and dramatic on a week to week basis in Shounen Jump.

What's funny is I heard something a while back that makes the whole situation even worse. Supposedly, the one thing about the game that's improved massively with time (the illustrations, which IMO are cool as shit) is STILL subject to Konami's bullshit. They have a completely absurd and draconian NDA where artists are not allowed to come forward and claim credit for the illustrations and character designs that they created.

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#4253: Aug 18th 2018 at 5:35:28 PM

So Jimmy Boy's old addage remains evergreen. And it also says something that busted cards that were banned for years are back now due to how utterly broken special summoning has become. Konami has tried doing a few countermeasures, but it still isn't enough since those fixes were usually aimed at the extra deck, ignoring the fact that even the main deck has broken monsters that come out disgustingly fast.

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#4254: Aug 19th 2018 at 10:12:12 AM

Cross posting from the Angry Joe thread since I expect Jim to talk about it, and that thread barely has people anyway. Basically, Joe lashed out at people spreading misinformation and whatnot, with those people trying to frame this as some sort of victory towards "SJ Ws" since Battlefield V has lower sales than Red Dead 2 and Black Ops 4. He tore into those arguments and provided actual facts.

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#4256: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:01:00 PM

I swear, these dickheads would support Nazis as long as they attacked SJWs.

Wait...

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#4257: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:38:13 PM

SJW Boogeyman is such an undead meme.

Edited by UltraWanker on Aug 19th 2018 at 8:38:05 AM

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#4258: Aug 19th 2018 at 2:16:41 PM

It's gone the way of cuck.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
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#4259: Aug 19th 2018 at 3:55:59 PM

I'm more in bewilderment at why a British WW 2 soldier has a Samurai sword more then anything else.

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#4260: Aug 19th 2018 at 4:02:18 PM

They didn't help when in a responce to such bafflement on twitter the Battlefield account, whoever runs it, talked about making an authentic World War 2 experience. While this could be talking about the single player campaign, such a tweet compared to the debut trailer made it seem like Blatant Lies.

The lackluster PR, combined with the Batlefront controversy and what Joe said above, resulted in a not very strong pre-order game. That being said it'll do well enough to keep Dice around.

Edited by UltraWanker on Aug 19th 2018 at 11:03:40 AM

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#4261: Aug 19th 2018 at 5:01:47 PM

[up]Except women did fight on the front lines in World War II. The USSR even had multiple all-female units. (Say what you will about communists, they do believe in equality).

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#4262: Aug 19th 2018 at 5:03:26 PM

There was also that famous Russian sniper who was a woman.

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#4263: Aug 19th 2018 at 5:44:33 PM

Uh, what? This trivia is obvious, I was following on the above post. I'm talking about the over-the-top aspects like a prostethic that almost seems too advanced for its design, the guy with a tribal facepaint, and the katana man, not gender and that can of worms.

Authenticity and accuracy are a bit different when it comes to media, so I assumed that made what I talked about clear.

Edited by UltraWanker on Aug 19th 2018 at 2:31:39 PM

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#4264: Aug 20th 2018 at 2:14:47 AM

I guess it's authentic in the same sense as Inglourious Basterds is authentic. Step aside, Ubisoft iconic - here comes EA authentic.

Edited by TAPETRVE on Aug 20th 2018 at 2:17:02 AM

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#4265: Aug 20th 2018 at 2:36:24 AM

[up]Better trademark that one before Jim gets his hands on it.tongue

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#4266: Aug 20th 2018 at 6:36:01 AM

There was an English soldier who recorded kills in WW 2 with a broadsword and a longbow, and escape from a POW camp no less than four times. Name of "Mad Jack" Churchill.

Though I doubt he had a samurai sword.

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#4267: Aug 20th 2018 at 6:39:14 AM

That sounds fucking metal. Why aren't we getting a game about "Mad Jack" carving up Nazis with a broadsword? I mean jesus forget playing as another faceless FPS shooter man I wanna play as a contemporary era Dante or Caim!

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#4268: Aug 20th 2018 at 6:41:30 AM

Gotta admit, that sounds pretty cathartic.

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#4269: Aug 20th 2018 at 6:42:30 AM

Media generally avoids the crazy shit that actually happens, because people will call it bullshit even if they can be corrected. Ultimately my gripe with BF 5 is the lackluster PR more than anything.

Edited by UltraWanker on Aug 20th 2018 at 1:42:39 PM

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#4270: Aug 20th 2018 at 6:47:49 AM

Joe even pointed out the lousy marketing as being a likely reason pre-orders are down.

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#4271: Aug 20th 2018 at 6:49:26 AM

On the Battlefield 5 controversy their are 3 ways Dice could've avoided it

1. Make it modern or futuristic 2. Have the female characters be Russian/French Resistance members/spies 3. Go full on alternative history

You're going to pay a price for every bloody thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price.
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#4272: Aug 20th 2018 at 7:03:42 AM

"Controversy"

This is the franchise where you eject from a plane, shoot an helicopter with an RPG, then re-board your plane in mid flight.

It's not exactly committed to realism.

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#4273: Aug 20th 2018 at 7:07:30 AM

I highly doubt the controversy would significantly decrease if the female character was Russian or French. For the kind of people who make this into a huge deal just seeing a woman being prominently featured is enough to lose their marbles. You can bet that if the exact same character was just a minor squad member who didn't get much screentime, there wouldn't be nearly as big of an outcry.

Edited by lara16 on Aug 20th 2018 at 7:07:20 AM

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#4274: Aug 20th 2018 at 7:27:05 AM

Jim gives an intelligent and level-headed recap of the Philip Miucin thing.

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#4275: Aug 20th 2018 at 7:27:08 AM

I don’t care if their is a female player character, I just don’t like Battlefield in general anyhow, because the recent battlefield’s have been very shitty for a while now.

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