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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1: Jan 31st 2012 at 7:03:19 PM

Can someone clear out for me the differences between Purity Personified and Incorruptible Pure Pureness? I'm not sure whether I am just confused about the distinctions between them, or whether other tropers are using the latter when the former would be more appropiate.

Case in point: In The Lord of the Rings character sheet, Shelob has the following entry:

  • Incorruptible Pure Pureness: Of the "pure evil" variety. She was stated to be immune to the ring's temptations because power holds no interest for something that just wants to eat everything.

Problem: Incorruptible Pure Pureness is explicitly defined in its article as the Good kind of Purity Personified, with Pure Is Not Good being its Evil Counterpart.


Another confusing issue: Is Pure Is Not Good only concerned with being "pure explicit evil", or can also include "pure not-necessarily-evil-in-itself", like "pure rage" (e.g. The Dragon Ball Super Saiyan entry in Pure Is Not Good)?

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#2: Feb 1st 2012 at 8:01:21 PM

Purity Personified is a person who is perfectly pure. Incorruptible Pure Pureness is a person who stays perfectly pure, despite corrupting influences. I think the Shelob example is a misuse.

I'd say Pure Is Not Good covers any degree of not-goodness.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3: Feb 1st 2012 at 8:16:35 PM

So, Shelob would be better described as simply Purity Personified running on Pure Is Not Good? Then what would be a case of Incorruptible Pure Pureness that runs on Pure Is Not Good? Melkor after he completely falls from grace and becomes Morgoth?

edited 1st Feb '12 8:18:30 PM by MarqFJA

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