The Gun Thread

A neural link of some sort triggers a solenoid that engages the mechanism. That could work for an "arm gun".

Safe enough if you use an embedded wire, rather than wireless. Wouldn't want it to get hacked!

I was referring less to hacking and more the owner shooting by accident

Well, a gun is inherently dangerous to the user, that's just the nature of it. That's why handling firearms really requires extensive training. I don't see any reason why an arm gun would be more dangerous than the regular kind, provided the user is trained properly.

Being triggered by brain impulses sounds kind of risky.

Isnt your finger triggered by brain impulses?

It is indeed. The trick is making the setup work with the right mental impulse. Given the series of experiments where people are controlling things with their brains, this isn't so far-fetched. You can also have manual safety to reduce negligent discharge risk.

Your finger being triggered by brain impulses is actually a pretty good reason why a big part of firearms training is remembering to physically disconnect your trigger finger (from the gun, not from your hand).

Edited by AFP on Jan 8th 2023 at 6:51:34 AM

Basic trigger safety, yeah?

I wasn't able to qual on iron sights, but I was able to qual and zero well on the red dot.

~Nukeli : Cyberpunk 2020 had "smartguns" - a wire went to a jack at the base of the neck or the forearm and the gun/rifle/heavy weapon was fired by a solenoid. Just like any safety, there was a risk of accidents when the safety wasn't used correctly - in universe there were stories of Corporate types shooting up a surprise party because they were startled and they let their cyberware do the rest.

Why replace a hand with a gun? It would be hard to walk around, hard to use for self care (and other things) and really unnecessary if a gun could be fired electronically.

Now a "holdout" weapon could be hidden in the hand (a one shot "zip gun", a taser, a pop out stabby thing,etc).

Edited by TairaMai on Jan 8th 2023 at 6:41:52 AM

The character already lost his hand/arm in a separate incident so it was more like just making use of the stump (some of his decisions are a bit dubious).

Quick question...

Would anybody be interested in helping me ID the likely models of a couple guns from Magic Kaito (or at least narrowing down a few plausible candidates)? I was thinking of posting caps from the original manga for the most part, but I can cap anime adaptations, too (assuming they don't change too many details).

Someone might have put them on the Internet Movie Firearms Database

Ah, so both the anime adaptations got covered! Hadn't expected that...

Even still, I'd like to get a direct opinion on what was in the original manga. Particularly Inspector Nakamori's revolver:

IMFDB says it's an S&W Model 29 in the corresponding episode, but I always figured it for something smaller, like the Model 19 or 15 (might've even called it a Model 10, were it not for the adjustable sights). Someone who's familiar with wheelguns: is size the only thing that differentiates these models, appearance-wise?

(This is a series that - especially in the manga - has required way higher suspensions of disbelief before, but somehow I still scratch my head at the idea that a Japanese cop would be allowed to tote around a Model 29 in the heart of a major city.)

On a more ambiguous note, there's Delon's... thing.

At first I thought it was a cert that the author had just mashed an automatic barrel onto a revolver to make it look Cooler/Scarier, but a bit of Googling tells me that this is a custom thing called "slabside" barrels? And that they were real popular in the '80s for precision-pistol competitions?

Here, I'm not really asking for a definite model, but a more general question: did any popular films/TV shows from the '80s (or earlier) feature guns that looked like these? Gun culture being virtually nonexistent in Japan, I figure the author was probably inspired by something he saw on a screen.

In the Honor Harrington books, Honor gets a prosthetic arm that includes a concealed pulser dart pistol (which she arms by making the finger-gun gesture, which is a lot funnier to think about than most things in that franchise tend to be). It's wired to a prosthetic eye that gives her magnified vision and a HUD gunsight.

It makes visiting high-ranking officials a bit awkward from a protocol standpoint. It also tends to make her own security detail a bit nervous because they don't want her getting into gunfights, they want her getting out of them while they do the gunfighting.

I'm sure you probably heard this one before, but is it really possible for a double-barrel shotgun to discharge both of its barrels at once, akin to Doom 2's Super Shotgun? I tried looking it up, but all I got were videos of double-barrel shotguns being fired twice in quick succession, or discussions on video game shotguns.

It depends on the shotgun. Some have two triggers one for each chamber and some of those can fire both barrels at the same time. It is down to the mechanism. IIRCC some of the old shotguns could fire both hammers on the black powder cap fired shotguns.

I suppose the reason people didn't use the double triggers simultaneously was due to the possible recoil given that firing one shell would have given enough as it is.

I think the biggest reason not to fire both barrels at once is that you'll be out of ammo if that shot misses. That said, I want to say I have seen a shotgun with a three-position selector switch for the trigger, with a position for each barrel and one for both.

I've heard that one common practice is to load each barrel with a different kind of ammo, so this would be another reason not to fire both. You could have shot for close-range work or fast-moving game like birds, and a slug for bigger targets or targets at a distance. But that probably comes down to personal preference.

Usually it won’t be two different rounds but a different choke on each barrel. For example, the traditional setup for bird hunting is having a wider choke on the barrel that fires first and a narrower one on the barrel that fires second, to make it easier to hit birds that are flying away after hearing the first shot.

Or a barrel with no choke on it for slugs.

Slugs aren’t really used in double barreled shotguns. Many models can’t even fire them. The two barrels on both types of double are tilted slightly towards each other, with the lines of fire intersecting at a point typically about 40 yards out. A slug would be incredibly difficult to aim because of this, especially considering shotguns of this type are generally used for birding or skeet shooting.

There are double barreled rifles, but those are a totally different type of firearm and aren’t in common use any more.

A double barreled slug gun is an interesting idea.

Are revolvers superior to semi-automatic's for carrying?

pros:

-Reliability -cheaper prices -small snub nose models. -with double actions you'll still fire even if you mindlessly pull trigger without touching hammer -No safety you need to fiddle around with -cocking the hammer, makes the trigger pull incredibly light.

-cons:

-cheapest ones are SAA clones -lower ammo count then semi autos -unless you get a hammerless, there's a small possibility of hammer getting caught on clothes when drawing. -full sizes are impossible to conceal in pocket -open cylinders make it impossible to suppress -lack of safety makes It easier for first time shooters to ND (can be negated by them following the 4 rules)