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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#26: Jan 17th 2012 at 1:08:45 PM

...and the relevant Deconstructive Parody is "actually if you're that close to an explosion you won't be fine".

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Jan 17th 2012 at 1:17:48 PM

Please stop insisting on Rule of Perception as though we couldn't figure it out. It just justifies those who claim Viewers Are Morons.

edited 17th Jan '12 1:18:04 PM by DragonQuestZ

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#28: Jan 17th 2012 at 1:45:25 PM

Giving it some thought... yeah, I guess it's just obvious enough.

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#29: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:05:25 PM

I actually think it's kind of disrespectful to chop up someone's comic like that. Only using the relevant part of the image is one thing, but actually removing certain frames and changing the flow of the comic is another. The author obviously thought there needed to be a panel in between showing the people getting blown up - getting rid of it would be misrepresenting their work.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#30: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:23:19 PM

1. It has plenty of precedent here.

2. We can't show the whole comic anyway, so chopping it up would happen regardless.

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#31: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:22:11 PM

[up][up] We do it all the time. Fair use allows us to use portions of copyrighted works for illustrative purposes; it doesn't mean we can't pick and choose what we want.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#32: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:46:04 PM

And the point is to illustrate the trope, not just copy paste someone's artistic vision. We can provide links for that.

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#33: Jan 17th 2012 at 5:40:06 PM

Yeah, as long as we link back to the original, it should be fine. The point of the image is to illustrate the trope, not capture the creator's artistic vision.

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#34: Jan 18th 2012 at 6:15:52 AM

How about we transfer Ascended Fridge Horror's current image to this trope?


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#35: Jan 18th 2012 at 7:17:23 AM

[up]I'm not sure that that's even an example of Ascended Fridge Horror; for it to count the Fridge Horror would actually have to be referenced in the Tom And Jerry cartoons themselves.

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#36: Jan 18th 2012 at 7:34:39 AM

[up] Yeah, I think that pic would be a better fit here than there...but isn't there already an IP thread about that pic?

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#37: Jan 18th 2012 at 8:09:46 AM

[up] That pic's thread seems to note that it'd fit better elsewhere than there. In that thread I mentioned Fridge Horror and Deconstruction, but now that I've seen this thread I think it fits Deconstructive Parody even better.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#38: Jan 18th 2012 at 9:47:37 AM

Big "WHAT?!"? That is tragic deconstruction. This trope actually requires a deconstruction Played for Laughs.

EDIT: Now Deconstructed Trope doesn't have an image. That T&J pic could work there, to show slapstick being deconstructed.

edited 18th Jan '12 9:49:36 AM by DragonQuestZ

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#39: Jan 18th 2012 at 10:37:29 AM

[up][up][up][up] FYI, it is Ascended Fridge Horror, but only in universe, thanks to a panel that is deleted from that version.

Not that this changes anything said earlier, but just FYI.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#40: Feb 1st 2012 at 1:31:40 AM

Bump.

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#41: Feb 1st 2012 at 6:43:53 AM

I think the Worth It suggestion is the best one here. It's a clear deconstruction of the Outrun the Fireball thing.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#42: Feb 1st 2012 at 10:07:08 AM

[up]While being funny. That's important because that's why the Tom & Jerry picture is not an examples.

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#43: Feb 12th 2012 at 5:55:45 AM

That is tragic deconstruction. This trope actually requires a deconstruction Played for Laughs.
If you've read much VG Cats, you'll find that tragedy IS Scott Ramsoomair's idea of comedy.

That said, it's probably better for Deconstruction, Deconstructed Trope, or Fridge Horror anyway.

edited 12th Feb '12 5:56:22 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

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#44: Feb 12th 2012 at 6:36:20 AM

Put another vote down for the worthy asplosion.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#45: Feb 12th 2012 at 10:22:58 AM

[up][up]Especially since that context isn't in the picture.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#46: Feb 15th 2012 at 12:14:50 AM

Okay, I just decided to put the picture up, due to support. But if there are objections, let's hear them.

Also, how the heck did the link in the OP get so off? The proper strip number is 957, but somehow changed to 561 (edited it to correct that).

edited 15th Feb '12 12:15:14 AM by DragonQuestZ

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#47: Feb 15th 2012 at 12:35:48 AM

Like a few people brought up earlier, it doesn't work very well with just those 2 panels.

edited 15th Feb '12 12:38:35 AM by abk0100

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#48: Feb 15th 2012 at 1:07:28 AM

Either two or three panels work, really.

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#49: Feb 15th 2012 at 4:20:30 AM

The caption gives the context that the two-panel version might be lacking, so I'm good with it as it is on the page.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#50: Feb 15th 2012 at 4:39:39 AM

I still don't understand why the third (middle) frame would be necessary. What does that convey?

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15th Feb '12 1:41:29 PM

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Deciding which version of the page pic to go with.

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