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Deadlock Clock: Jan 10th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#51: Apr 14th 2012 at 9:04:06 AM

Calling crowner in favor of Metaphorically True.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#52: May 15th 2012 at 7:50:57 AM

We have a name and consensus. Let's see some action, or we'll need to shelve this.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#53: Jun 17th 2012 at 8:32:38 AM

There are 179 wicks left here.

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#54: Jun 17th 2012 at 10:06:26 AM

Just a rename? I thought we were going to split off what "Half Truth" really means as a separate trope?

pakaran Since: May, 2009
#55: Jun 17th 2012 at 7:11:04 PM

I was wondering the same. My impression was that "Half truth" was going to be for statements that (while intended to mislead) were logically true without heavily twisting words, or using obscure meanings.

That is, "Luke, we lost your father to a battle with the Sith," or "your father, a promising Jedi, was defeated by Darth Vader" would both be half truths - it is clear that they are not lies. Things like "he was alive when I last saw him [and shot him in the gut]" fall under Half Truth as well.

I thought "Metaphorical Truth" was going to be for statements like "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father". For the "murder" part of that statement in particular to be true, we're dependent on a metaphorical, or unusual, reading of the words (in this case, it seems like an outright lie if you don't know (amongst other things) that the Jedi regard the Sith as akin to the walking dead).

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#56: Jun 17th 2012 at 9:00:28 PM

[up]and [up][up], having just read through the whole thread, you're both correct. This is not a rename but a split, and the vote was for the name for the new trope. The examples and wicks need to be sorted, not just blindly moved.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#57: Aug 1st 2012 at 7:54:43 AM

Is anyone going to fix the mess, or do we need to revert everything and morgue this?

edited 1st Aug '12 7:54:51 AM by ccoa

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#58: Aug 1st 2012 at 8:07:14 AM

For the wicks, there is the wick fixing thread. For the trope that is to be entered in Half-Truth, if no YKTTW is available we'll need to scrap it or make an analogous thread for YKTTWs, since they are the most problematic bits of TRS work aside of wicks.

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Jsor Since: May, 2009
#59: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:15:24 AM

So we probably need to get the ball rolling on this. It seems the only thing that's been done is swapping the name around, which is probably more confusing since the majority of examples are Half Truths and not Metaphorical Truths. Unfortunately, I've never done this sort of thing so I have no idea what's going on.

I will say though, since somebody mentioned needing one above, that there was no YKTTW for this trope, which was really my bad, it's the first trope I made years back and I didn't know YKTTW was a thing until the talk page exploded right after posting it.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#60: Jan 7th 2013 at 9:23:42 AM

Clocking. Either YKTTW Half-Truth or we'll have to revert this.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61: Jan 29th 2013 at 12:32:52 AM

Guess we're never getting this done. Ah, well.

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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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