Follow TV Tropes

Following

Canadian Politics

Go To

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#5176: Jul 22nd 2020 at 12:33:31 PM

Ha!

I’ve wanted to get rid of that (the Canada-US Safe Third Country Agreement) ever since Trump got elected.

The US under Trump isn’t a safe country for refugees.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7205230/federal-court-rules-canada-u-s-safe-third-country-agreement-unconstitutional/

Edited by Galadriel on Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:36:39 PM

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#5177: Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:22:28 PM

So Doug Ford has fired an MPP for basically daring to disagree with a law he proposed. That's...not very democratic behaviour, to put it lightly.

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#5178: Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:36:33 PM

I agree that should've been gotten rid of, once Trump was elected, he made his position on immigration and refugees clear.

Wow that sounds bad, do you have an article link?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5179: Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:43:52 PM

Getting expelled from caucus for breaking party discipline is standard practice. Nothing new or particularly radical.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#5180: Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:59:15 PM

Yes, the premier cannot fire an MPP. An MPP is chosen by the voters, not the premier.

However, any political party leader can expel an MPP from the party if they think they’ve gone against the party on a sufficiently substantive matter.

So this is not something outside the norm.

Edited by Galadriel on Jul 22nd 2020 at 10:20:03 AM

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#5181: Jul 22nd 2020 at 6:43:16 PM

Ah from their own party, yeah they can be strict about that, voting in the party line. It's pretty usual. Not unique Doug Ford awfulness (which he has his share of).

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#5182: Jul 25th 2020 at 6:29:15 AM

I’m rather bewildered that this whole WE thing is getting more press than the fact that a person apparently associated with far-right pandemic conspiracy theories attempted to assassinate the prime minister.

I mean, if the guy had been Islamic, it would be the only thing in the news. As it is, we haven’t heard a peep since his arrest.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5183: Jul 25th 2020 at 12:17:24 PM

WE does reinforce my opinion that Trudeau is a mediocre idiot who needs to stop stepping into conflict of interest scandals. Still have to vote Liberal, as the Greens' foreign and energy policies suck and aren't viable in Nova Scotia, and the NDP is seemingly unable to pull out of it's current spiral.

Do wonder if this will stick politically, it doesn't come across as bad as SNC, and the pandemic management is going decently. On the other hand, a lot of money was almost spent on a case where COI was clearly present.

Cause none of his probable Tory opponents look tolerable... Mackay is a lying sack of shit and O'Toole is running as Harper 3.0 Only good thing I can say about either is that they aren't Sloan.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Jul 25th 2020 at 4:20:55 PM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5184: Jul 25th 2020 at 1:18:34 PM

What was so bad about Harper? All what I know about him is this.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#5185: Jul 26th 2020 at 4:50:36 AM

Harper brought in tax cuts that damaged Canada’s fiscal position.

He restricted federally-funded scientists from talking about their research results if those research results conflicted with government opinions (esp. of things like climate change and the environment). He changed the census from mandatory to voluntary, undermining its ability to function as a census (because you can’t providence evidence supporting increased funding of social programs if your capacity to collect the evidence is undermined). He tried to prevent safe injection sites even though they had been proven to work. He treated ‘facts’ and ‘evidence’ as the enemy in a similar though lesser style to what Trump is doing in the US.

One example of the above is that he defunded a charity, Kairos, because it had the same name as a completely different organization that had criticized Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians.

He deliberately made it harder to vote because this played to his electoral advantage.

He lost the election in 2015 in part because he tried to employ xenophobic fearmongering to his advantage and voters didn’t take to it.

And outside the policy sphere, he just had a very ugly style of politics based on personal attacks.

[up][up] I’ve been pleased with a lot of what Jagmeet has to say on the current protests and am supporting the NDP. They’re also the only party really willing to stand up against Israel’s actions, which is a major issue to me. And I strongly support public dental care.

Trudeau’s really his own worst enemy. All of his biggest screw-ups have been own-goals.

Edited by Galadriel on Jul 26th 2020 at 8:01:54 AM

TriggerLoaded $50 a day, plus expenses from Canada, eh? Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
$50 a day, plus expenses
#5186: Jul 27th 2020 at 12:59:59 PM

Members of 'Canadian Revolution' attempt to preform a citizen's arrest on Trudeau. Went about as well as you'd expect.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nolifeneet/status/1287221627642675206

In short, they spew a bunch of Soverign Citizen rhetoric while one member is arressted peacefully, and the gate is closed on the rest of them.

Don't take life too seriously. It's only a temporary situation.
phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#5187: Jul 28th 2020 at 11:52:01 AM

Well at least they were arrested.

I vote NDP partially because in my particular riding it is between the NDP and Conservatives (they smushed us together with a more Conservative riding after being NDP for years and there are Conservative elements as well in the place and left elements in the more Conservative place) we still have an NDP MP.

Didn't Harper also lower prisoner wages? I don't think Trudeau has changed that though.

Edited by phantom1 on Jul 28th 2020 at 11:52:49 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5188: Aug 6th 2020 at 9:28:05 AM

Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil will be stepping down once the party chooses a successor. He will be leaving active politics after 17 years, including two terms as Premier.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/atlantic/2020/8/6/1_5053635.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5190: Aug 6th 2020 at 9:11:30 PM

Thankfully Canadian Border Services did their job this time. The system worked for once.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5191: Aug 16th 2020 at 4:13:55 AM

Reports from BBC (at least) mention that threats made against Trudeau and his family have increased a bit from last year. Don't have the numbers right now.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#5192: Aug 25th 2020 at 7:22:28 PM

https://youtu.be/VnoOJSzTLF0

Military probe into the Ranger unit reveals far-right activity.

GIVE ME YOUR FACE
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5193: Aug 30th 2020 at 3:16:30 AM

SPVM got called in after Macdonald’s statue was knocked down to the ground.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5194: Sep 1st 2020 at 12:02:25 AM

Kerry-Lynne Findlay is in hot water for tweeting a post on Freeland being linked to Soros.

As if we need more conspiracy fuel now.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5195: Sep 9th 2020 at 7:56:37 PM

China Uncensored talks about "Elite Capture" done in Canada.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5196: Sep 28th 2020 at 7:57:51 PM

There's an upcoming argument regarding Meng's case.

Chinese Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou and her lawyers return to a Canadian court on Monday to press for her release, arguing the US misled Canada about her alleged crimes to secure her detention on foreign soil.

The defense, according to court filings, will say that the crux of the US charges against Meng — that she hid Huawei's relationship with former subsidiary Skycom in Iran from HSBC bank — is false and lacks context.

"Putting such a misleading and incomplete record before this court disqualifies it from continuing these proceedings," the document said.

The Chinese telecom giant's chief financial officer was arrested on a US warrant in December 2018 during a stopover in Vancouver.

She is charged with bank fraud linked to violations of US sanctions against Iran, and has been fighting extradition ever since.

The case, meanwhile, has added to severe strain in Sino-US ties and created an unprecedented rift between Canada and China.

Nine days after Meng's arrest, China detained former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig and businessman Michael Spavor in what is widely viewed as retaliation over Meng.

Espionage charges were filed against the pair in June, soon after Meng's first legal setback, when her bid to have the case thrown out was defeated.

The past nearly two years of sporadic court appearances have so far seen Meng's attorneys trade barbs with Canadian government lawyers over access to classified documents.

The defense also accused US and Canadian authorities of having conspired to gather evidence and interrogate Meng without a lawyer in the hours after she disembarked from a Hong Kong flight but before she was charged, in violation of her rights.

The RCMP, they noted, provided serial numbers and technical specifications of her smartphones, tablet and laptop computer to the FBI.

"The Attorney General of Canada doesn't accept there was any conspiracy to deprive Ms. Meng of her rights," Crown counsel Robert Frater shot back in July.

"We do not accept there was any violation of Ms. Meng's rights," he said.

- The Skycom connection -

Despite the Covid-19 outbreak's disruptions of trials at the British Columbia Supreme Court, Meng's case has proceeded by teleconference — though at a slow pace.

At her last hearing in mid-August, however, her lawyers said they expected her to appear in person Monday for the first time in months.

US indictments allege that Meng and the world's largest telecoms equipment manufacturer conducted business in Iran in violation of US sanctions through Skycom.

The US Justice Department says the Hong Kong-registered firm was a poorly disguised Huawei front company.

They note that Skycom employees had Huawei email addresses and badges, and that Skycom's leadership were Huawei employees — including Meng, who has admitted to serving previously on its board.

Huawei also at one point owned a stake in Skycom but sold its shares to another company that the US says also was controlled by Huawei.

The US alleges Meng fraudulently concealed all this from HSBC, putting the bank at risk of unknowingly violating Iran sanctions.

It pointed to a presentation Meng made in 2013 to an HSBC executive after the British banking group, worried over potential Iran exposure, requested an explanation.

But Meng insists she was upfront with the HSBC executive at the Hong Kong tea house meeting.

The 48-year-old daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei has said Skycom was merely a "business partner" in Iran and that Huawei's dealings there did not violate global standards or US law.

The company has rejected as "unfounded" these and additional charges filed in February accusing Huawei of stealing technologies from US companies.

US officials claim Huawei poses a security risk because of its links to China's government, while Beijing has accused Washington of seeking to crush Huawei.

Meng remains under house arrest in Vancouver while the extradition case, which is due to wrap up in March or April 2021, is heard.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5197: Oct 7th 2020 at 7:07:56 PM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-ethan-lou-china-trade-1.5743475

An op-ed on reducing economic dependence on China.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5198: Oct 10th 2020 at 9:43:59 PM

The two Michaels finally have consular access.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
Blueeyedrat YEEEEAH— no. from nowhere in particular. Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
YEEEEAH— no.
#5199: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:13:42 AM

In provincial news, BC election results project a solid NDP majority.

Pre-election:

  • NDP: 41
  • Liberal: 41
  • Green: 2
  • Independent: 2
  • (one seat currently vacant)

The projected results:

  • NDP: 55
  • Liberal: 29
  • Green: 3

"I've come to the conclusion that this is a very stupid idea."
phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#5200: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:54:04 AM

Well we'll see how it bears out.


Total posts: 5,843
Top