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I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.
One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.
All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 29th 2023 at 10:02:23 AM
they are trying to convince franklin to go with them so playing up their old connections and letting franklin use her old nickname is something she will put up with so xavier gets a new weapon
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It's no more deceptive than most social interactions. We wear different masks for different people. She lets Franklin call her Kitty because she doesn't mind a 13-year-old using her nickname from when they were friends years earlier. She wears the X-Men uniform because her pirate uniform doesn't really fit the situation.
At the end of the day, she likes Franklin, and she wants him to do what he feels is best for him. Just like she said. She's not trying to lie to him, she's trying to make him comfortable and reassure him she's there for him, no matter what he chooses.
End of the day, Kate's not up to anything nefarious here. Neither are any of the others, they're all just too convinced they know what's best for Franklin.
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The latest teaser for Marauders. I'm going to guess this is a trap they set up for Sebastian Shaw and Kate isn't actually dead.
Considering Val came along, I think what might happen is that Franklin discovers humans cannot be on Krakoa, and unless I'm mistaken, Val's a human. "Your sister cannot stay with you. She is human. She is unwelcome."
I do not think they're gonna have Franklin just decide mutants are his real family.
That kinda says the message that your race is your true family and kindred rather than your family, and deserves first loyalty, which is...very iffy. VERY. VERY iffy.
Also seeing the X-Men acting very culty, which is...likewise concerning. I'm Californian, we have a history of cults trying shit, and so I've got a diminished tolerance for this kind of behavior.
Edited by NickTheSwing on Feb 11th 2020 at 10:13:40 AM
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Either that or he discovers that Kroaka is mainly interested in getting all Omega-Level mutants under their control and view him more as a WMD than a person. Because with that one data file it looks like Xavier's primary concern here is making sure all the powerful mutants are firmly allied with Kroaka.
Edited by alliterator on Feb 11th 2020 at 11:38:39 AM
That has caveats as well, and does not seem to be a universally tolerated position. It is noted that all of the X-Men's human allies bar Scott's father weren't allowed on Kroaka.
Yes, Scott's father, who I stated. But it is telling that we've seen none of the other human allies on the island, and that Magneto flat out told the fake ambassadors that humans weren't welcome there back in AOX 1.
Edited by alliterator on Feb 12th 2020 at 1:11:08 AM
The point I was making is that whilst there isn't an official ban on humans being on the island, that doesn't mean that humans are widely welcome there. And to date we have only seen one human on Kroakan territory, who happened to be the father of the most powerful mutant not on the council and who didn't actually step foot on the island itself since he was hanging out on the moon house.
So it's not that Val would be bared from Kroaka, it's that she could face discrimination from some of the more militant mutants, or that the council might decide she's or the rest of the family aren't allowed to see Franklin.
I'm 100% sure that if Franklin asked, they would allow Val to live there, too. Especially since she's a genius on par with Reed Richards and they always need more of those.
Edited by alliterator on Feb 12th 2020 at 1:11:52 AM
Human-mutants relations haven't changed since the 60s-80s despite real life racial/other group relations improving since then. Why? Because edgy status quo, that's why. You know, it'd be interesting to see a conventional racist human who's pro-mutant
I haven't read the new issue of X-Men yet, but I've read the spoilers, and it's funny how quickly the entirety of X-Twitter turned to "burn it all to the ground" mode. I'm right there with them.
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@ If Franklin asked, they'd let Val be there;
I somehow foresee the X-Men making asses out of themselves with this. I'll wait to see, but I can just...see it happening. It wouldn't be completely out of character with how shady and jerkish they're behaving.
Edited by NickTheSwing on Feb 12th 2020 at 10:17:15 AM
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The Head of the Hydra
The fuck happened?
Leah Williams says her new X-Factor series will have a sub-plot about Northstar's human husband living on Krakoa. That would be interesting. Are baseline humans taught Krakoan like mutants are, or is that considered a security threat? How would Franklin react if they taught him but not Valeria? Are the resurrection protocols kept secret from non-mutants? When Shogo grows up, what's Jubilee going to tell him when he asks who "they" are when Xavier says "Look what they've done!"?
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This is a Mystique centric issue. It shows her making the request for Destiny to come back in exchange for planting a gate on the Orchis base in orbit on the sun, but Xavier and Magneto keep changing the deal and stringing her along even as she screams at them to bring back her wife (confirming that Destiny and Mystique are married). It then turns out that years ago Destiny told her that she would find herself in Kroaka and being offered her heart's desire, and those who offered it would not uphold their bargin. And if she can't bring it back then she should burn the whole island to the ground.
Going to say, Magneto and Xavier do not come off looking good at all. Despite them going on about how Mystique needs to earn their trust, the point stands that they promised her Destiny back after the mission to the Orchis base, and after Mystique died in the attempt changed the deal again so she had to go back there and see what's up despite admitting there's a risk she'll be captured or killed the second she steps through the gate. And when she does so again and finds out that one of the scientists appears to be building Nimrod she gets criticised for not murdering her there and then, and when Mystique brings up that they had made a law preventing mutants from killing humans Magneto just counters that obviously that law doesn't matter. So not only are the pair being absolute hypocrites by criticising Mystique's untrustworthiness whilst knowingly stringing her along for something they have absolutely no intention of giving her, they are also fully happy to break the laws the council made when it suits them. For all that talk of equality and sharing power the two of them are wielding more than they are letting the rest of the council know.
Also, The delay cost Mystique and the rest of the team their lives. Was the whole mission just a diversion to plant the seed, and a stunt to make them martyrs and resurrect them to bring Krakoa together? If it was meant to have 100% fatality, that would explain why Angel, Husk, and Monet were brought instead of powerhouses like Colossus, Rogue, and Prestige.
So apparently Orchis has bases throughout the Galaxy. Including a Sentinel City for Sentinels to live in, and bases on Mercury and Venus. Considering the dark future included Human-Sentinel hybrids...hm.
"Congrats on choosing Posthumanity. Now, leave Earth for Sentinel Land in Mars."
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Surprised to see no one talking about what happened in #5, with Laura, Darwin and someone whose name I forget have been trapped in the vault for at least 500 years. That kind of seems like a big deal.
Synch. He was in Generation X in the '90s. He was such a legitimately good dude and then Warren Ellis went and killed him. It was such a waste. I hope we see lots more of him soon.
I suppose that depends on how well he handles the course of centuries.
How are either of these not being deceptive? She insists her friends call her "Kate". (The woke reviewers on the Xavier Files called using "Kitty" a case of deadnaming.) She's portrayed as not treating him like a teenage boy, but wears her old uniform to talk to him. Will she have it on all the times when she meets him (or at least wear the gloves)?