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Edited by dRoy on Feb 20th 2020 at 2:33:51 AM

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#2851: Aug 7th 2017 at 3:44:54 AM

@Septimus Heap: ... I think you mean "spurred", because "spurned" means something totally unrelated to what the context of your post is about.

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#2852: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:17:11 AM

Why we fell for clean eating

This is a long one, so tl:dr; "clean eating" is pseudo-science post-truth feel-good make-believe bullshit that is encouraging eating disorders, body-shaming fascism, and still more anti-expert hostility.

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hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#2853: Aug 11th 2017 at 11:32:44 AM

I decided to pick out the bits that I thought were interesting:

But why, Yeo asks, do these authors not simply say “I am publishing a very good vegetarian cookbook” and stop there, instead of making larger claims about the power of vegetables to beautify or prevent disease? “The poison comes from the fact that they are wrapping the whole thing up in pseudoscience,” Yeo says. “If you base something on falsehoods, it empowers people to take extreme actions, and this is where the harm begins.”

“As ever, all my recipes are sugar-and-wheat free”, Shaw announces, only to give a recipe for “gluten-free” brownies that contains 200g of coconut sugar, a substance that costs a lot more than your average white granulated sugar, but is metabolised by the body in the same way.

Mc Gregor’s main concern about clean eating, she added, was that as a professional treating young people with eating disorders, she had seen first-hand how the rules and restrictions of clean eating often segued into debilitating anorexia or orthorexia.

Amelia Freer, in Eat. Nourish. Glow, admits that “we can’t prove that dairy is the cause” of ailments ranging from IBS to joint pain, but concludes that it’s “surely worth” cutting dairy out anyway, just as a precaution. In another context, Freer writes that “I’m told it takes 17 years for scientific knowledge to filter down” to become general knowledge, while advising that gluten should be avoided.

["Food rules"] are not even good rules, based as they are on “unsubstantiated, unscientific claims”. Take almond milk, which is widely touted as a superior alternative to cow’s milk. Mc Gregor sees it as little better than “expensive water”, containing just 0.1g protein per 100ml, compared with 3.2g per 100ml in cow’s milk.

The article concludes that in the modern world, diets are either "all sugar and fat" or "nothing but raw vegetables", when a diet that is in-between is both heathier and more feasible for many people.

How does an extreme diet cause an woman to stop having periods? Does it have to do with hormones?

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#2854: Aug 13th 2017 at 8:49:13 AM

It's been a really long while since I studied my basic physiology, but basically: messing around with your caloric intake / output balance affects the levels of hormones in the hypothalamic (gonadotrophin-releasing hormone) - pituitary (follicle stimulating hormone and luteinising hormone) - gonadal (oestrogen and progesterone) axis, which are responsible for maintaining a normal reproductive / period cycle. IIRC, starvation downregulates GnRH which then results in everything downstream being suppressed. The relation between insulin resistance, hyperandrogenism and amenorrhoea is probably also related to an increase in GnRH levels, but I don't think it's as straightforward as the downstream suppression part.

edited 13th Aug '17 9:00:18 AM by Pyrite

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#2855: Aug 13th 2017 at 8:51:21 AM

Biologically, the reason would be that if you aren't taking in enough nutrients, the body will shut down the ovulation cycle. Living beings tend to live in feast-or-famine conditions and reproduction makes only sense if there is enough food to support your pregnancy and your offspring alike.

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#2856: Aug 19th 2017 at 3:51:31 AM

Is it possible to change your sleeping cycle so that you don't feel lethargic when you wake up?

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#2857: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:14:07 AM

Quick question: how much damage would five pounds of pressure do to a eye?

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#2858: Sep 6th 2017 at 1:06:29 PM

Melting permafrost is releasing dangerous pathogens. The principal concern is Anthrax since it's a) fairly lethal and b) there have been cases of it. Now one big case in 2016 concerned frozen reindeer bodies but apparently ancient viruses of unclear pathogenicity have been found in frozen material and may be mobilized by the thawing.

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#2859: Sep 7th 2017 at 2:20:59 AM

A (darkly) funny true story.

I was standing in a formation and someone behind me collapsed. So people cried out "Hey, we need medics here!"

Well, it turns out that the person who collapsed WAS a medic.

It was a pretty chilly day, so my limited guess is it's something to do with dehydration. Maybe.

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#2860: Sep 11th 2017 at 8:50:09 PM

Cross Post:

Could you really become an EKG technician within a few months and with no medical background?

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#2861: Sep 23rd 2017 at 12:19:38 AM

X-posted from US politics thread:

New Study Links Playing Youth Football to Later Brain Damage

If children play tackle football before they are 12 and continue to play through high school, they may be putting their brains at risk.

That's the key takeaway from a new study published Tuesday in the journal Nature's Translational Psychiatry. Researchers from Boston University's Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy Center studied 214 former football players, including 43 who only played at the high school level, 103 who played in college, and 68 who played professionally. The scientists found that playing tackle football before the age of 12 increased the odds of problems with behavioral regulation, apathy and executive functioning later in life by twofold, and the odds of suffering symptoms of depression threefold. (The mean age of study participants was 51). The results held steady for players with different levels of experience. Even for those who didn't stick with football after high school, playing tackle before the age of 12 increased their risk of behavior and mood problems as adults. "We found that to be pretty remarkable," says Michael Alosco, a post-doctoral fellow at the Boston University School of Medicine, and lead author of the study.

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#2862: Sep 23rd 2017 at 7:51:05 AM

A Good News / Bad News kind of post:


Alarm as 'super malaria' spreads in South East Asia
The rapid spread of "super malaria" in South East Asia is an alarming global threat, scientists are warning.

This dangerous form of the malaria parasite cannot be killed with the main anti-malaria drugs.

It emerged in Cambodia but has since spread through parts of Thailand, Laos and has arrived in southern Vietnam.

The team at the Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit in Bangkok said there was a real danger of malaria becoming untreatable.

Prof Arjen Dondorp, the head of the unit, told the BBC News website: "We think it is a serious threat.

"It is alarming that this strain is spreading so quickly through the whole region and we fear it can spread further [and eventually] jump to Africa."

Resistance to the drugs would be catastrophic in Africa, where 92% of all malaria cases happen.


New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains
Scientists have engineered an antibody that attacks 99% of HIV strains and can prevent infection in primates.

It is built to attack three critical parts of the virus - making it harder for HIV to resist its effects.

The work is a collaboration between the US National Institutes of Health and the pharmaceutical company Sanofi.

The International Aids Society said it was an "exciting breakthrough". Human trials will start in 2018 to see if it can prevent or treat infection.

Our bodies struggle to fight HIV because of the virus' incredible ability to mutate and change its appearance.

These varieties of HIV - or strains - in a single patient are comparable to those of influenza during a worldwide flu season.

So the immune system finds itself in a fight against an insurmountable number of strains of HIV.

But after years of infection, a small number of patients develop powerful weapons called "broadly neutralising antibodies" that attack something fundamental to HIV and can kill large swathes of HIV strains.

Researchers have been trying to use broadly neutralising antibodies as a way to treat HIV, or prevent infection in the first place.

The study, published in the journal Science, combines three such antibodies into an even more powerful "tri-specific antibody".

Dr Gary Nabel, the chief scientific officer at Sanofi and one of the report authors, told the BBC News website: "They are more potent and have greater breadth than any single naturally occurring antibody that's been discovered."

The best naturally occurring antibodies will target 90% of HIV strains.

"We're getting 99% coverage, and getting coverage at very low concentrations of the antibody," said Dr Nabel.

Experiments on 24 monkeys showed none of those given the tri-specific antibody developed an infection when they were later injected with the virus.

Clinical trials to test the antibody in people will start next year.

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#2863: Oct 13th 2017 at 10:30:31 AM

Madagascar is having a severe plague outbreak. It is spreading and is the most dangerous form, pneumonic plague.

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#2864: Oct 22nd 2017 at 2:17:48 PM

Edited by canarycodfish on Jul 31st 2023 at 4:50:39 PM

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#2865: Nov 22nd 2017 at 2:36:17 PM

Could a lack of proper sleep cause you have bad thoughts especially if you work at night?

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#2866: Nov 22nd 2017 at 2:38:55 PM

Two questions related to tendon injuries:

  1. Can a tendon rupture be impossible to surgically repair?

  2. What is the full impact of severing/rupturing a leg's Achilles tendon on the person's ability to move? Would he be just unable to run, or would he be unable to even walk in any way on that leg?

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#2867: Nov 22nd 2017 at 3:03:35 PM

IIRC, rupturing your Achille's tendon means you're no longer able to plantarflex your foot. As in, you can't flex your foot downward, if that makes sense. Makes it difficult to walk, but I don't know if you would be unable to walk.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#2868: Nov 22nd 2017 at 3:43:40 PM

You can still hobble with a busted Achilles, but you aren't going to win races or get prizes for rope climbing.

That is, after you've stopped rolling around on the floor in pain: it hurts. Like, a lot. (It's not the tendon doing the hurting, but all the muscles which suddenly are bunched in weird and wonderful shapes without that anchor to hold them in their accustomed positions sending all the SOS flares brainwards.)

edited 22nd Nov '17 3:45:17 PM by Euodiachloris

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#2869: Nov 23rd 2017 at 4:13:29 AM

When doused with anesthetic, how long are you unconscious?

edited 23rd Nov '17 4:13:44 AM by HallowHawk

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#2870: Dec 18th 2017 at 1:08:26 PM

Can you get dizzy from blowing your nose into something and feeling dizzy afterwards?

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#2871: Dec 18th 2017 at 1:09:09 PM

It does happen to me sometimes.

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#2872: Dec 19th 2017 at 10:29:09 AM

Medical seminars in the US are often held in hotels or their connected convention centres.

Seems normal, right? But what if I told you that a good amount of said seminars often involve sessions with practice on cadavers? Or that there is no regulation governing those?

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#2873: Dec 21st 2017 at 3:59:12 AM

I realize that I was blowing into my nose too hard to point where I going to pass out. I was asphyxiating trying to blow my nose. -_-;

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#2874: Jan 1st 2018 at 6:27:21 AM

Could a lack of proper sleep cause you have bad thoughts especially if you work at night?
Lack of sleep causes a number of mental issues. I don't know how those side effects of sleep deprivation interact with a nocturnal schedule, which also (unfortunately) comes with its own downsides. This sounds like a question for an actual physician, not an internet forum.
But what if I told you that a good amount of said seminars often involve sessions with practice on cadavers? Or that there is no regulation governing those?
I'm a little worried about the lack of regulation on transporting cadavers, given that dead human tissue is a great incubator for diseases that affect live human tissue. Not so worried about the hotel part though, I'm reminded about a heartwarming novel about a young necrophiliac who achieved his boyhood ambition by becoming a coroner. waii

As if things weren't still bad enough for the VA, now there's some evidence that hospital administrators have been kicking out patients to improve their hospital rating.note 

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ROSEBURG, Ore. — An 81-year-old veteran hobbled into the emergency room at the rural Veterans Affairs hospital here in December, malnourished and dehydrated, his skin flecked with ulcers and his ribs broken from a fall at home.

A doctor examining the veteran — a 20-year Air Force mechanic named Walter Savage who had been living alone — decided he was in no shape to care for himself and should be admitted to the hospital. A second doctor running the inpatient ward agreed. But the hospital administration said no. Records show that a nurse in charge of enforcing administration restrictions said Savage was not sick enough to qualify for admission.

The denial appeared to be part of an attempt by members of the Roseburg Veterans Administration Medical Center to limit the number of patients it admitted to the hospital in an effort to lift its quality-of-care ratings.

Fewer patients meant fewer chances of bad outcomes and better scores for a ranking system that grades all veterans’ hospitals on a scale of one to five stars. In 2016, administrators began cherry-picking cases against the advice of doctors — turning away complicated patients and admitting only the lowest risk ones in order to improve metrics, according to multiple interviews with doctors and nurses at the hospital and a review of documents. Those metrics helped determine both the Roseburg hospital’s rating and the leadership’s bonus checks. By denying veterans care, the ratings climbed rapidly from one to two stars in 2016 and the director earned a bonus of $8,120.

Current and former staff members say the practice may reach well beyond Roseburg. Recent government reports also challenge the reliability of the department’s metrics, casting doubt on a key tool that it says it relies on for reforming its health care system.

The hospital’s director, Doug Paxton, acknowledged that being more selective had improved ratings, but denied the hospital was turning patients away to improve scores. Tightening admissions, he said, benefited patients, not metrics, because Roseburg’s hospital lacks the resources for acute patients. But five emergency room doctors strongly disagreed. In a letter in response to questions from The New York Times they said they had warned about the arrangement at Roseburg, where physicians are repeatedly overruled by administrators. “When we voice concern that a process is dangerous and not good for patient care,” they wrote, “We are met with the response that ‘this is what the director wants.’”

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#2875: Jan 5th 2018 at 2:46:40 AM

So this is a thing now - a fad about untreated and thus likely unsafe water.

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