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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#1: Aug 20th 2011 at 7:03:07 AM

Worst name ever. Contains no clue at all as to what the trope is about, or any connection to it once the mystery is revealed.

It is about being attracted to someone of bent gender when that is not the character's natural inclination. Something like Gender Dissonance could work.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Aug 20th 2011 at 7:19:51 AM

The name is indeed bad. I once suggested Bridget Is A Guy (as a spear counterpart to Samus Is a Girl), but turns out this trope is about feeling attracted to trans* (of any kind) characters, not just finding out that the person you thought was female is physically male, so I guess it won't work.

Not sure about Gender Dissonance. That name would have to include the distaff counterpart too.

Also, should Gender Bender even be mentioned as an example? I thought that at least a physically male body was required. (Unless it's a genderswapped woman who still dresses as a woman... I guess...)

By and by, the article is really short. When the "compare" section is nearly as long as the description, it's not a good sign. And it doesn't even mention anywhere that the current title is a reference to Guilty Gear.

edited 20th Aug '11 7:21:19 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

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#3: Aug 20th 2011 at 7:23:44 AM

This trope is one of the most popular ones we have here...

Dropped A Bridget On Him found in: 843 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 14,839 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

The name itself is witty (a clone of Dropped a Bridge on Him and named after one of the most infamous examples of this) As well as its decently clear (Bridget being a girls name and "Him".)

I am on the fence, leaning Against because just renaming for the sake of renaming isnt a good idea.

edited 20th Aug '11 7:36:49 AM by Raso

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#4: Aug 20th 2011 at 7:42:00 AM

That's not wit. That's an obscure as Hell snowclone.

edited 20th Aug '11 7:42:38 AM by FastEddie

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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#5: Aug 20th 2011 at 7:59:53 AM

Wit, can be obscure.

But I do agree it needs a rename.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#6: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:06:01 AM

The wikilinks and inbounds are a force to be reckoned with here. Are there any problems with it other than "I don't like the name?"

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#7: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:20:42 AM

[up] A "force" that can be easily overlooked, in light of its objective problems. So Yeah had brought in almost just as many people as this page, and look what happened to that. The number of referrals doesn't automatically make a page immune.

edited 20th Aug '11 8:22:31 AM by SeanMurrayI

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#8: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:22:04 AM

[up] So Yeah was also misused up the ass and was nearly a troper Verbal Tic.

This however is not.... So Yeah *

edited 20th Aug '11 8:22:32 AM by Raso

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#9: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:23:31 AM

Regardless, the point is still the same. Wicks and referrals don't prevent names or pages from being changed or outright deleted if they have clear problems.

edited 20th Aug '11 8:28:11 AM by SeanMurrayI

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#10: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:40:59 AM

[up]Except they usually do prevent it. I've always agreed that this was a terrible name, but assumed it would have perpetual Grandfather Clause immunity because it has "a long tradition of existence to the TV Tropes community" and a gazillion wicks.

edited 20th Aug '11 8:41:36 AM by suedenim

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#11: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:44:08 AM

It is a pre-existing term and used outside the wiki as well as on it. It doesn't seem to have misuse and it's got a ton of inbounds. Those are the objective facts.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:47:39 AM

I remember something about this coming up before. I remember the name Dude Thats Not A Lady suggested. As in "Dude, That's Not A Lady?"

edited 20th Aug '11 8:47:53 AM by SalFishFin

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#14: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:49:48 AM

We don't lose the inbounds by renaming. There are enough problems here that there is a good chance a better name will even inprove the already good off site usage.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
CrypticMirror Cryptic Mirror from Scotland Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:51:47 AM

I don't really see any pressing reason to rename this, it's well established and whenever I've seen it used it is used correctly. Also the rename suggestion starts with "Dude" which (IMNSHO) was a hanging offence even back in the eighties and nineties when it was a popular word.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#16: Aug 20th 2011 at 8:52:20 AM

I don't see a problem with the name either, but we can at least come up with some decent redirects. All we've got right now is Dropped A Bridget On Her and Sexual Disorientation.

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#17: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:06:14 AM

[up][up]Well, that's just one hypothetical rename. I'm sure we can do better.

Jet-a-Reeno!
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#18: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:18:38 AM

I don't think it's a pre-existing term. When you take us out of the picture, Google only gives 11,000 hits and most on the first page still reference TV Tropes.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:20:25 AM

It starts with dude to snowclone off of Dude Looks Like a Lady. Since the tropes are related, and all, snowcloning would be acceptable.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#20: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:23:26 AM

No, it wouldn't.

A swap into Sexual Disorientation could work.

edited 20th Aug '11 9:24:14 AM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#21: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:27:16 AM

We don't lose the inbounds by renaming.
True, but redirect don't log inbounds and the Related page doesn't count inbounds from renamed pages. They may as well have disappeared.

There are enough problems here that there is a good chance a better name will even inprove the already good off site usage.
Proof? We've already covered the unintuitive (but wildly popular) name, potentially Bad Snowclone, and Word of Mod angles. Anything else?

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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#22: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:28:27 AM

Just to let you all know there is another trope that is snowcloned off of this trope: Dropped A Widget On Him. That's right, a Chekhov's Pun of a Chekhov's Pun, making it a Chekhov's Pun^2. If we rename this trope we will probably have to rename that trope, because the title would make even less sense without this title as a reference.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#24: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:33:14 AM

Take it to the forums — oh, wait...

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#25: Aug 20th 2011 at 10:38:13 AM

Well for what it's worth, The Lousy Alternate Titles page has this as its entry:

  • Dropped A Bridget On Him is way shorter than That's A Guy? Oh, God, It Is A Guy! And I Actually Had A Stiffie! NOOOOOOOOO! My Masculinity Is Ruined FOREVER!

I rather like Sexual Disorientation.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

AlternativeTitles: DroppedABridgetOnHim2
20th Sep '11 4:37:04 PM

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