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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#116001: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:34:20 AM

Which it bring me to this...

if they use doom, they will have him used magic?.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116002: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:36:09 AM

[up][up] Well never mind

Still swapping tools that require a lot of expertise to use isn’t generally the best idea

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#116003: Feb 23rd 2020 at 10:36:53 AM

> if they use doom, they will have him used magic?

Unlikely I think,but they'll probably focus on his ability to create technology to make him a foil Richard Reeds

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#116004: Feb 23rd 2020 at 11:17:56 AM

She Hulk being raped

Late response, but this didn't happen in the Ultimate Universe. It was in the Old Man Logan universe.

Edited by windleopard on Feb 23rd 2020 at 11:20:41 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#116005: Feb 23rd 2020 at 11:44:17 AM

Nothing still beats the Rapecest of Ms Marvel in the 616

https://geekinsider.com/on-the-rape-of-ms-marvel/

Really dunno what came over Claremont that day

Edited by Forenperser on Feb 23rd 2020 at 8:44:23 PM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#116006: Feb 23rd 2020 at 11:45:02 AM

Apparently even he doesn't know.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116007: Feb 23rd 2020 at 11:45:39 AM

[up][up]That wasn’t Claremont. Claremont wrote the issue where she called everyone out on it.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#116008: Feb 23rd 2020 at 11:46:34 AM

Right, sorry, my bad, it was Perez, right?

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#116009: Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:01:05 PM

My understanding is that the original planned resolution to Ms. Marvel's mysterious pregnancy arc ended up being very close to a What if? comic released just prior so they scrambled to come up with a different resolution in a very short amount of time and didn't really think things through.

Admittedly that's still not a very good excuse, but it is nonetheless how it happened.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#116010: Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:07:27 PM

> Late response, but this didn't happen in the Ultimate Universe. It was in the Old Man Logan universe.

So the Old Man Logan universe is even worse then Ultimate universe I take it

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#116011: Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:18:22 PM

Jim Shooter, George Pérez, Bob Layton, and David Michelinie all get writing credit for Avengers 200

None of them can claim to remember how it happened but Jim Shooter said that ultimately blame should fall to him because he was the EIC and the buck didn’t stop with him

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116012: Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:19:03 PM

So the Old Man Logan universe is even worse then Ultimate universe I take it
I mean, Mark Millar was responsible for a lot of what was wrong with both, but ultimately I think Old Man Logan stands up a lot better than Miller's Ultimates or Loeb's Ultimatum. For one thing, the entire premise of the story is that everything is already bleak — almost all of the superheroes are dead, the supervillains took over, and Logan has decided to become a pacifist and hid away at a farm, where he got married and had two children.

Old Man Logan, then, is essentially Logan's Unforgiven and it takes a lot from it. There are just several details where you have to just yell "What was Miller thinking?" Like the Hulk Gang — Miller could have simply gone with the Leader's children or the Abomination Gang or something like that, but nope, he had to make Bruce Banner go crazy from gamma radiation, rape his own cousin, and produce kids from that. It's so out of nowhere that you just kind of have to ignore it, because the rest of the story is better.

And then, of course, there's the ending to the story, which makes sense in regard to it being Unforgiven, but still hurts: Logan's wife and children were all killed by the Hulk Gang before the deadline just because they were bored. As I said: it's bleak, but it started out bleak, so the ending makes sense in that context. We just don't get to see Logan do any sort of, you know, mourning.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:19:37 PM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#116015: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:22:41 PM

She-Hulk is Angry Unikitty confirmed.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116016: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:35:15 PM

This whole thing reminds me of the story of Charlie Chaplin entering a Charlie Chaplin impersonation contest...and placing 3rd.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#116017: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:03:58 PM

In fairness according Mary Pickford he wasn't in costume at the time.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 24th 2020 at 8:04:07 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#116018: Feb 25th 2020 at 5:19:08 AM

Anyway, Brie herself is apparently busy as hell with Brooklyn 99 so she may not be able to take the role. Who do you call when Brie is busy?

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 25th 2020 at 8:20:39 AM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116020: Feb 25th 2020 at 5:35:27 AM

Interestingly, many people want a bodybuilder for the role.

They forgetting that when she is in human form, is of average constitution.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#116021: Feb 25th 2020 at 5:40:43 AM

Do we know someone who can pull off a Clark Kent Outfit?

Wake me up at your own risk.
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#116022: Feb 25th 2020 at 5:54:16 AM

Speaking of She-Hulk, I hope the character will be at least taller than Thor. (In Hulk form, obviously)

Many say that height shouldn't matter, but in characters like She-Hulk I think so.

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In fact I am still disappointed to discover that a powerful dragon like Charizard is shorter than me.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#116023: Feb 25th 2020 at 5:57:45 AM

> In fact I am still disappointed to discover that a powerful dragon like Charizard is shorter than me.

Charizard isn't even a dragon type!

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#116024: Feb 25th 2020 at 6:48:36 AM

It can be if you Mega Evolve it right.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#116025: Feb 25th 2020 at 7:04:49 AM

Anyway, Brie herself is apparently busy as hell with Brooklyn 99 so she may not be able to take the role. Who do you call when Brie is busy?
Alison Brie isn't in Brooklyn 99. I think you are referring to Stephanie Beatriz. Alison Brie is in GLOW, which only has one more season, I think, but I don't know when it films.


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