Marvel Cinematic Universe

Deadpool 3 includes a scene of him getting old Cap back to the prime timeline, re-capturing Loki at the end of Loki, and mopping up time snarls from Agents of SHIELD.

I would make a jest about him stopping Thanos from killing Gamora but there's already a comic about it online.

690 degrees Fahrenheit...water boils at 210.

"Most adults will suffer third-degree burns if exposed to 150 degree water for two seconds. Burns will also occur with a six-second exposure to 140 degree water or with a thirty second exposure to 130 degree water. Even if the temperature is 120 degrees, a five minute exposure could result in third-degree burns."

Sweet Christmas.

Edited by fredhot16 on Oct 16th 2019 at 10:16:27 AM

I have a idea for a joker were Thanos is going to fight the avenger, only for deadpool showing up and shooting him out of nowhere, saying "Take that cable.....oh....damn I kill the wrong Bolin...sorry guys, I will leave my way, tell the marvel guys im sorry" and just leave were he came from.

Loki who is a Squishy Wizard is bulletproof, unless it is a special weapon, Deadpool should not be able to do anything to Thanos.

Thanos Durability >> Loki Durability > Bullets

You should underestimate Thanos a lot, if you really believe he can be killed by a bullet.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Oct 17th 2019 at 6:03:06 AM

As he says in Infinity War: All that for just a drop of blood?

Yes, he would. Reynolds was not the problem with that movie. Just like how Reynolds was not the problem with X-Men Origins: Wolverine. He did the best he could with the terrible, terrible film he was presented with.

I can say with absolute ironclad 100% certainty that a better writing and direction team could have made a great movie out of Green Lantern. I can say that because that movie exists. It's called Dr. Strange.

Dr. Strange is eerily similar to GL. It hits all of the same plot points that GL does, every single one, while demonstrating a much strong grasp on how to weave a narrative in a way that keeps the audience invested. And it does it all without forcing Strange to wear a shitty CGI domino mask that doesn't even succeed in disguising his face in-universe.

Watch those movies back to back and you'll be stunned at just how much Dr. Strange is "Green Lantern: The Good Version".

Or don't because Green Lantern: The Bad Version is terrible and nobody should ever be forced to watch it.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 17th 2019 at 8:01:00 AM

I remember being pretty hyped for Green Lantern when it was new, so it's a bummer it went sideways the way that it did.

As for Deadpool breaking the fourth wall in the MCU, I would personally want him to say something to the effect of "Now if you would all excuse me, I'm going to have my team-up with Spider-Man before Sony gets greedy with him again."

By the way, anyone noticing how the recent MCU movies are eschewing numbered sequels?

What would the hypothetical Deadpool 3 be called?

Deadpool and the Search for More Synergic Money?

I've mentioned this before, but I actually do want Deadpool to pop up in a PG-13 crossover just so that he can crack jokes on how much they have to censor him. He can't do that in an R-rated film.

"Disney better put up a discretion shot for what I'm about to do to him."

I'll say this about this about teh green lantern ,even those god awful hulk movies are better quality

Green Lantern was dreadful, but I don’t see huge similarities between it and Doctor Strange, besides the protagonist joining a big organization, training, and having to save the world, which isn’t uncommon for action movies.

Hal’s character issue was that he was an immature manchild. Strange’s was that he was an arrogant ass (and, IMO, didn’t really stop being one).

And I would question Doctor Strange being “the good version” of anything. “The passable version”, maybe. It was pretty mediocre, with very little creativity in terms of plot or characters.

Edited by Galadriel on Oct 17th 2019 at 10:29:40 AM

I think I remember someone suggest on a WMG page or a similar page that Deadpool will try to restrain himself so he can give out the film's one Precision F-Strike at a pivotal moment, only to get pissed when someone else beats him to the punch.

The main issue I remember with Green Lantern is that Hal spends waaaaay too long on the "refusal of the call" part of the hero's journey type script they had.

There were hints of a compelling character arc what with his backstory involving his father but it doesn't ever pay off.

I also didn't personally like the more comedic direction to the material and felt it was to the film's detriment. It's not really what I wanted from a green lantern movie at all. Granted, this was because the staff wanted to take advantage of Reynolds' comedic talents, but that wasn't his decision.

So no it's really not Reynolds' fault. The script he had was just bad.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 17th 2019 at 11:27:54 AM

I actually heard that the executives cut a ton out of the Green Lantern movie, including a majority of the training on Oa — you know, the important parts, where Hal is actually learning how to be a Green Lantern.

Add in the fact that the bad guys of the movie were a guy with a giant veiny-brain head and a giant fart cloud (seriously, that's what you changed Parallax into? It went from a super creepy insect to a giant fart cloud?) and you get a terrible film.

I mean, there was two moments that were pretty great: when Hal is trying to figure out how to activate the lantern and shouts a bunch of stuff including "Shazam!" and "By the power of Grayskull!" and the moment where Carol Ferris (played by Ryan Reynolds' future wife) immediately recognizes him even with a mask on. "I've seen you naked, you think covering your cheekbones will do anything?"

Edited by alliterator on Oct 17th 2019 at 8:40:47 AM

It least it was Hal Jordan and not John Stewart

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 17th 2019 at 3:44:32 PM

Oh, that sucks. Those scenes are some of the best in the movie. Kilowog was criminally underused.

Given it was the same lot of executives that were (per rumor) pushing to have the No Man's Land Sequence cut from Wonder Woman...The Defining Sequence in the whole darn film!..., I am not surprised.

Why cut that sequence?

This is how Patty Jenkins explained it:

Yeah, it really proves that executives aren't storytellers.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 17th 2019 at 9:02:39 AM

Every Superhero film needs "THAT MOMENT" the one where you suddenly realize the character shifts from "Person" to "Superhero" for Tony Stark it was the moment he dropped into a warzone in full red/gold armor, that let you know that IRON MAN had arrived, for Steve Rogers it was the Dramatic Shot of him Busting down the doors, Shield at the ready and the Commandos at his back, THAT is Captain America!

For Diana the No-Man's Land Sequence is her Moment, when she climbed out of that trench showing her armor in full for the first time and just strode into a hail of bullets let the audience know...Wonder Woman has arrived.

The problem with the Oa scene in Green Lantern was that it had basically nothing to do with the plot. It's the best scene in the film, but it has nothing to do with the plot.

"But Drake! The plot is about the Green Lantern Corps fighting Parallax!"

No, it's actually not. That's the greater scope conflict that exists in the background. The plot is that Hal really likes Carol Ferris and wants to hook up with her, but also there's a bad dude named Hector Hammond who is possessed by a piece of Parallax and who also wants to hook up with her. This is what the film chooses to spend its time on.

Parallax and the Corps are background details that inform the conflict between Hal and Hector over Carol. Parallax is just there to provide a power-up to Hector to offset the Green Lantern powers that Hal gets, and Parallax is effortlessly disposed of almost immediately just as soon as Hal beats Hector. Parallax and the Corps are minor background characters to the much less interesting A-Plot, which has almost nothing to do with them.

That's the problem.

The executives recognized that the best scene in the movie didn't actually advance the main story in any way, but failed to recognize that it's not Oa that needed to change. It's the plot.

Dr. Strange was able to correct for this by directly relating its primary antagonist to the secret order of fantasy warriors. Instead of a disfigured old bastard who really wants to get in Hal's girlfriend's pants and fell ass-backwards into being empowered by Parallax, he's a disfigured old bastard who wants to get into the world's pants and deliberately became empowered by Dormammu.

Strange kept its narrative focus fixed on the sorcerers and Dormammu in exactly the same way that GL should have kept focus on the Corps and Parallax. This not only made for a tighter narrative, but it also allowed Strange to do a better job of building up Sinestro/Mordo than his one-scene wonder status in GL allowed.

And when the film does inevitably go back to his old life and the ship-tease love interest Carol/Christine, Strange does it because he needs her practical skills, with the implication that he'll probably never see her again because of his new life. Hal just does it because that's the plot and she's the love interest and they need to have the same romance that every other superhero has.

Strange keeping its focus on the Corps/Monastery works to build up the actual scope and greater scope threat of Parallax/Dormammu in a way that GL failed. When Strange flies up to face Dormammu alone, it feels like a genuine accomplishment that the film has truly earned. Not only that, but because we've spent so much time fleshing out the sorcerers and their unwillingness to invoke the Eye of Agamotto, Strange's solution to Dormammu truly feels like something none of them could have done.

By contrast, when GL faces Parallax alone and just pushes him into the sun, the audience is left with the question of why literally the entire Corps was having so much difficulty coming up with a solution that's so simple, easy, and obvious. GL hasn't laid the groundwork for a complex and engaging solution. It hasn't built a relationship between Hal/Strange and the Corps/Sorcerers or given us adequate reason for why Hal/Strange is different from them. And as a direct result of that, GL's method of having Hal/Strange single-handedly defeat Parallax/Dormammu feels lazy and unearned.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 17th 2019 at 10:29:11 AM

Yeah, the plot of the film should have been "Hal finds the Green Lantern ring, gets recruited, goes to Oa for most of the film for training, and the entire corps face off against Parallax."

But I guess either the execs or the writers didn't think a movie that mainly took place off Earth would work. Nowadays we have Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor: Ragnarok as an examples of why it would, but back then, I think the MCU only had Iron Man and Incredible Hulk and it's clear that the Green Lantern movie was trying as hard as it could to emulate Iron Man.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 17th 2019 at 9:35:00 AM

I still don't get why Dr strange is the film GL is being compared to.

You COULD compare it to Green Lantern First Flight which came out not long before, and is overall a much better origin story for Hal Jordan.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 17th 2019 at 1:34:09 PM

I remember someone many pages back comparing Green Lantern to Iron Man 1.

Re: As for Deadpool breaking the fourth wall in the MCU, I would personally want him to say something to the effect of "Now if you would all excuse me, I'm going to have my team-up with Spider-Man before Sony gets greedy with him again."

Erm.... I'm not really on board with that. Sony may take great offense to that.

Yes, iron Man makes sense too given how recent it was at the time and how both were lesser known characters at the time who were meant to kickstart cinematic universes.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 17th 2019 at 1:50:21 PM