Marvel Cinematic Universe

Are people seriously debating who's better between Thanos and Doom?

Because that got answered a while ago.◊

And once the hand was on the other foot.

So probably not a good overall indicator of who is better.

Ripping out someone's spine is more impressive than blowing them up.

Agents of Shield also had the advantage that there definitely are synergy effects with the movies. Believe it or not, but there are actually people who start watching Ao S and eventually decide to check out at least the Winter Soldier, which is a great movie to get convinced to watch more of the movies.

All it really proves is that Doom is a lot more "hands-on" when wielding godlike power than Thanos is.

And in both cases the "better" one is relying on outside power: Doom relied on the Molecule Man and Thanos relied on the Infinity Gems.

Edited by M84 on Mar 26th 2019 at 1:18:52 AM

But, of course, just being on ABC didn't save Agent Carter or Inhumans — so the other part is the fact that Agents of SHIELD was just plain good and kept getting better and did so on a reduced budget, too.

Agent Carter wasn't good? I did kinda like season 1, and I didn't see season 2.

For me, Agent Carter was pretty eeeeeeeeeehhhh.

Again: "reduced budget." Agent Carter was hella expensive to film, especially when it was set in New York, because they had to CGI all the backgrounds and dress everyone in period appropriate clothes.

First season of Agent Carter was great, they kind of lost focus in season 2 though. Still enjoyable, but you kind of have a problem when you switch from your female character having to overcome the dead of her big love while also dealing with the struggles female face in a male dominated workforce, ending the season with the realisation that she truly doesn't need the approval of anyone, to an arc which is mostly about which guy she should hook up with.

I still would like a proper conclusion to everything which was set up in season 2.

I do like how the villain for S2 was a woman who was unappreciated for her intellect and only valued for her beauty and acting.

Yep, that was what kind of rescued the season.

I loved Whitney, and felt turning her into an world domination semi-possessed ink-monster was a somewhat generic turn that somewhat undercut what made her character so great: that she was the real power behind the Illuminati, who was tired of being marginalized and intended to use her gifts to take things for herself.

I wish she had gone more of a Luthor route and ousted/terminated the others with mad science they couldn't understand and better control over the power they claimed to master, rather than going "I have demon powers now, die, die, die," and then essentially becoming Cell. She seemed like she was going to become a cerebral Evil Counterpart arch-enemy for Peggy, and instead she became something of a Generic Doomsday Villain.

That was kind of the problem with Agent Carter's season 2 in general, imo. It's a series that worked best when it was a slow burn, because Peggy was a quintessential spy detective, piecing together incident after incident and winning the game of cat and mouse with the bad guys before they even knew they were playing. Season 2 went too supervillain, too fast.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 25th 2019 at 1:40:25 AM

It was also way too concerned with setting up future plot points which will now never have a pay off.

IMO, they blew it by having Whitney lose quickly without any final battle and then for her final fate being depicted in terms of a dude's manpain.

I'm still surprised Marvel didn't put together a continuation comic or something to wrap everything up. I would have loved that.

Maybe they want to keep their options open.

Came across a Little Gold Book adaptation of Captain Marvel in a store and flipped through it out of curiosity.

It seems to include spoilers for Endgame, so just a heads up, in case someone here wants to buy it for their kid.

Really? I don't think it does. In fact, it barely even includes spoilers for Captain Marvel — she gets her powers completely differently in the Little Golden Book.

They really should bring Peggy back for another movie. Hayley Atwell always seems like she's willing to come back, the fans love her, it'd be great.

Like, a Howling Commandos movie. She leads the commandos, and they go up against some of the weirdest Golden Age pulp-styled villains Marvel has no other opportunity to use now.

One of my favorite bits from EMH is the early episode where one of Cap's classic enemies from WW 2 (Zola, I think) attacks the Avengers with a giant goo monster. One of the others asks him if that's the kind of thing he had to do every day back then. Cap responds "nah, that's nothing. Sometimes, it got weird."

So just... do that. Indiana Jones up this shit: ragtag soldiers vs Nazi's with superweapons. Mix seemingly grounded pulp heroes with fantastical pulp phenomenon: mad science, magic, whatever. With Chris Evans leaving my hope for an Invaders movie is pretty much kiboshed, but they could still do a reference to it without Cap himself.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 25th 2019 at 6:09:08 AM

Or an alternate universe movie where she become Captain America.

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Yes, I'm aware she is British, don't know how that would work, and don't care.

So Captain Britain then.

Huh maybe one day we can get him & his younger sister Betsy.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 25th 2019 at 6:36:46 AM

Peggy being Cap was a thing in the recent Exiles reboot.

Random question,there's never going to be a Black Cat movie due to Catwoman,correct?

I'm aware it was made by someone else but cat anything in the title is probably tainted by failure of that film,would've surprise me either way

That was an alternate universe Peggy in the 2018 Exiles comic. Steve was shot by the assassin who killed Dr. Erskine, so Peggy became the supersoldier, getting the Captain America name for propaganda reasons. There was also Becky Barnes, a.k.a. lesbian Bucky Barnes.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 25th 2019 at 6:41:35 AM

Sony's Black Cat movie is still underway and shows no signs of being cancelled as of yet.

It was originally supposed to be a duo Black Cat / Silver Sable movie, but they've since split it into two distinct films.