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Vespa Creepy Bubble from Digital Limbo Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Creepy Bubble
Nov 7th 2019 at 10:36:16 AM

I highly recommend the twitter account @randomsakuga

"The effort you put forth to anything transcends yourself, for there is no futility even in death." -Monty Oum
TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Exposition Dragon
Nov 7th 2019 at 10:58:57 AM

Think of Digimon Our War Game

Ooo, I love that movie.

Naruto episodes like Sasuke vs Orochimaru in the forest

Never saw.

Santana's fight with Boros in One-Punch Man the anime.

Can vouch for that. One of the best fights in the show and really creative in showing how you can still have a fun and interesting fight with Saitama without ignoring the premise that he can obliterate a foe in one punch. You just gotta be creative with the person fighting him.

Yes, it winds up being a stomp just like every fight Saitama ever has is a stomp. But stomps can be fun. All of Hiei's most popular fights are stomps too, and YYH fans love Hiei. A fight doesn't have to be evenly matched to be entertaining. What's important is not the destination, but the journey.

Or Yusuke vs Dr. Kamiya from Yu Yu Hakusho.

The only thing I actually remember from that fight is its ending, since it's one of Genkai's weird Character Derailment moments from that arc.

Goku versus the filler movie villains in World's Strongest.

Easily one of the most beloved moments from the Toei movies, which is admittedly a high bar to clear.

Homura vs Mami from Puella Most Horrible Magical Girl Adventure Ever.

OH F*CK YES.

So, yeah. Sakuga sounds pretty f*cking awesome.

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold unfeeling logic that which can be equally explained by emotional outburst.
fredhot16 from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:00:52 AM

"Homura vs Mami from Puella Most Horrible Magical Girl Adventure Ever."

Rebellion?

Suspension of disbelief: I can believe in time travel but it still has to make sense.
Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:02:00 AM

The only thing I actually remember from that fight is its ending, since it's one of Genkai's weird Character Derailment moments from that arc.

Hm?

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TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Exposition Dragon
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:06:46 AM

Hm?

Genkai is weird in the Sensui arc because her established personality is not giving a single solitary f*ck what happens to other people. Her life philosophy is that she wants to pass along her power to a successor before she dies and she doesn't care one whit about what they actually do with it.

The Sensui arc makes her into the Big Good. Suddenly she's gathering heroes to fight an evil foe who threatens the world, which isn't really something that Genkai does.

That fight, in particular, doubles down on the weird WTF Genkai bits by having her save the Doctor's life after Yusuke defeats him. Her logic, as she explains, is that she doesn't want Yusuke to be distracted by wrestling with the guilt of having taken a human life.

This is weird both for the "Why is Genkai suddenly Lawful Good?" thing and also because nothing about Yusuke indicates he would feel even the slightest remorse about killing a man. In fact, later in the show, Yusuke outright says to a pair of demons, "Yo, I know you kill and eat innocent human beings but hey, that's the food chain, yo."

The Sensui Arc felt like it was trying really hard to be Americanized Dragon Ball Z. The dubbed version where the localizers worked overtime to really push the narrative that this rag-tag group of assholes, thieves, and murderers were a Justice League style superhero team.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 7th 2019 at 12:10:16 PM

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold unfeeling logic that which can be equally explained by emotional outburst.
JRads47 Not on my tempo from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
Not on my tempo
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:20:25 AM

I really don't see the need to self-censor yourself. Just say "freaking" or "damn" if you don't wanna say "fuck".

I'm an optimistic guy. I'm one of those big dreamers. I'm one of those kids with that annoying imagination. Tyler The Creator
Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:20:26 AM

In terms of the Dark Tournament team, Genkai strikes me asssssss probably at least second most moral after Kuwabara but that's because its a team with Hiei and Kurama on it.

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FlutterFire Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings from the Dragon Lands Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:32:39 AM

Discussion on what went into making Mob vs. Tatsumaki, Q&A Next Week

And they are also aware of the whole "This was a close fight" joke.

It's just that it was difficult to come to a unanimous conclusion for the fight.

"It's a close fight" means that it took so long to get every researcher and writer to unanimously agree who wins.

The crew then reacts to the leaked Pokemon Sword and Shield designs. Skip to the 44 minute mark if you wish to remain clean of that as they talk about the CDB.

Chad and Sam vote for Mew, Ben and Luis vote for Mewtwo. Twitter poll ends in Mewtwo's favor.

Next CDB is Yoshi vs. Tails.

https://twitter.com/DEATHBATTLE/status/1192511389186895873

Is this another part of pony friendship? Telling each other what you learned all the time?
TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Exposition Dragon
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:49:46 AM

I really don't see the need to self-censor yourself. Just say "freaking" or "damn" if you don't wanna say "fuck".

It's not censorship, it's just a personal tic. I picked up the "f*ck" spelling from some forum or chatroom about a decade and a half ago and now I just do it out of inertia to change.

It's just that it was difficult to come to a unanimous conclusion for the fight.

"It's a close fight" means that it took so long to get every researcher and writer to unanimously agree who wins.

Y'know, I've often wondered if that was the case.

They've mentioned that the standard protocol is to put everyone in a room once the research is done, present cases, and deliberate until the whole room unanimously agrees on a verdict. I've often thought about that and gone, "Wow, that must take for f*cking ever on some fights! I have a hard time getting three people to agree on pizza or cheeseburgers for lunch!"

I wonder if there are ever filibusters.

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold unfeeling logic that which can be equally explained by emotional outburst.
Nov 7th 2019 at 12:16:04 PM

Also, Ben once again says he really does want to remake Link vs Cloud, and the research would be reexamined if that does happen.

HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
Nov 7th 2019 at 2:25:48 PM

That fight, in particular, doubles down on the weird WTF Genkai bits by having her save the Doctor's life after Yusuke defeats him. Her logic, as she explains, is that she doesn't want Yusuke to be distracted by wrestling with the guilt of having taken a human life.

This is weird both for the "Why is Genkai suddenly Lawful Good?" thing and also because nothing about Yusuke indicates he would feel even the slightest remorse about killing a man.

The threat of the Demon portal and her own death may have changed her a bit. She could also have been lying at least a little bit.

Also, she stopped Yusuke from killing those three mind controlled Martial Artists during the dark tournament. True that because she had a way to stop them without killing them but I also think her not wanting Yusuke to kill still applied.

Everyone is XEHANORT
Impossum Thought Catcher from the land of infinite walls
Thought Catcher
Nov 7th 2019 at 3:03:18 PM

After thinking about it, I came to the conclusion that the biggest problem with Mob in this match-up is that we never actually saw ??? Mob fight or actively do something in general. When he appears, the fight just ends instantly due to his overwhelming presence alone. There never was a situation when he needed to put any effort against anyone because he eclipses everyone in his world in terms of power. It's pretty much the same thing as with Saitama - we don't know their true limits, because we never saw them struggle, implying that they have much more power in store that wasn't shown and likely will never be shown.

Pretty much putting Mob in DB is ultimately pointless, since his full strength cannot be determined and just implications without feats doesn't count. Yeah, we didn't see Tatsumaki at her absolute strongest either, but we at least saw her struggle and can have an idea of what her limits might be based of what was shown in the webcomic. At least, that's what I figured out.

Edited by Impossum on Nov 7th 2019 at 2:05:27 PM

ImmaLelouch Imma Lelouch from Saginaw
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:05:51 PM

Here's that Sasuke vs Orochimaru fight I talked about.

Same guy who did that episode did episode 133 of Naruto where Naruto goes fox, Sasuke gets 3 tomoe, and Naruto let's lose one out of the nine tails. His name is Norio Matsumoto.

Naruto Shippuden even had an entire filler arc called Power that was just Sakuga.

Edited by ImmaLelouch on Nov 7th 2019 at 2:13:05 PM

Lelouch is fabulous. Imma Xehanort on You Tube, Twitter, and Gamefaqs.
ImmaLelouch Imma Lelouch from Saginaw
Nov 7th 2019 at 11:12:32 PM

Anyway, that's all I'll talk about it for now. I pray they don't have something stupid like Deadpool takes Big Head's Mask.

Lelouch is fabulous. Imma Xehanort on You Tube, Twitter, and Gamefaqs.
VeryMelon SUPER SOMETHING ELSE
SUPER SOMETHING ELSE
Nov 8th 2019 at 3:16:31 AM

Mob vs. Tatsukai looked great. Tk vs. Tk is a type of fight I have trouble visualizing, so this was a great version of that.

Nov 8th 2019 at 5:10:56 AM

What's more powerful, being aware of and knowing how to exploit superhero tropes or pure toonforce?

Nov 8th 2019 at 5:17:03 AM

Deadpool has a sword that disables healing factors and an infinity stone that alters continuity.

So he could possibly take this:

  • The "carbonadium" (?) sword disables Mask's ability to put himself back together.
  • The infinity stone warps Mask's continuity/feats so that either A) never puts on the Mask, or B) becomes the Jim Carrey version where the Mask only works at night.

Always a student.
Nov 8th 2019 at 5:26:51 AM

n/a

Edited by Soble on Nov 8th 2019 at 5:27:22 AM

Always a student.
MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
Nov 8th 2019 at 3:45:25 PM

It was mentioned in Deadpool vs Deathstroke buuuuut it wasn't used in either fight, and it wasn't listed in the research breakdown.

They didn't specifically rule it out either, though.

Always a student.
TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Exposition Dragon
Nov 8th 2019 at 3:45:29 PM

No. To my knowledge, neither is the carbonadium sword.

Deadpool v. Deathstroke happened in season 2, before the rules changed. Deathstroke fought the strongest possible composite of Deadpool out of all the things Deadpool has ever done or had across all continuities Deadpool has ever appeared in. Deathstroke was under the same rules too.

The Mask is going to be fighting as close to 616-continuity accurate Deadpool as the researchers can get. If it's not something he carries on his person regularly, nor is it something he can easily obtain at the spur of the moment, then he's not going to have it.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 8th 2019 at 4:47:50 AM

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold unfeeling logic that which can be equally explained by emotional outburst.
slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Nov 8th 2019 at 3:47:49 PM

An Infinity Stone is most definitely not apart of Deadpool's normal arsenal.

The basic equivalence of that would be giving Batman a Green Lantern ring.

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:07:58 PM

Ah.

Well in that case Mask is going to murder him.

Unless

Edited by Soble on Nov 8th 2019 at 4:13:26 AM

Always a student.
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:51:04 PM

Technically speaking those feats might not be applicable either, if they exaggerate the Mask's characteristics from the source (the comic series) to the point of contradiction.

But I don't know enough about the Mask comics to know if he has limits (and if so what they are) there.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 8th 2019 at 4:51:59 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Nov 8th 2019 at 5:47:25 PM

The Mask of the comics is very different from the Mask of the movie and animated series, though, and most people are familiar with the latter incarnations.


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