The General US Politics Thread

So Bachmann seems to be in the lead in Iowa, and whilst I know she's crazy, I was just trying to remember why. Apart from the ban on porn and gay marriage things, which are kind of nuts, but can be dismissed as Pandering to the Base. Was she the one who wanted to do weird things to the Constitution, or was that someone else?

She also has said she wants to lower corporate taxes and would think about abolishing the minimum wage as well.

^^ her Husband doesnt help matters as he's actually been caught on tape trying to convince gay people to find Jesus and that'll cure the gay right up.

edited 13th Jul '11 12:58:46 AM by Midgetsnowman

Ron Paul is...like a lot of madmen. Somewhat accurate view of the problem, totally distorted view of the solution.

Unfortunately, a genuine libertarian cannot expect support from either party. Neo-Confederates like Ron Paul are about as close as they come.

Bachmann is a another christian reconstructivist who thinks The Lion King is subliminal gay propaganda.

Alas, these wingnuts who used to be kept in the periphery are now in vogue. I suppose we're all fatalistic about democracy and want to restore traditional protestant values - none of which interests Bachmann obviously.

Why "alas?" To be a devil's advocate, what's wrong with the Republican Party committing political seppuku?

Bachmann will take the lead in the Republican party (assuming the Romneycans don't prove to be a powerful Silent Majority), and Obama will curb stomp her so hard that John Calvin will feel it in his grave. The Republicans will become ineffective, the Tea Party will disintegrate, and the Republicans will come up with a new game plan for 2016.

If Romney wins the primary, by contrast, the Tea Party will break down for a different reason. Romney's a lot like Obama; he's a technocrat without a lot of hardline ideological principles, and in fact nobody really knows where he stands half the time. If the Tea Party can't stop that, then it becomes plain as day that the Republican majority doesn't really care for the TP, and it'll be relegated to an interest bloc in Congress.

I want Fred Karger to win, dammit. >:

not that that will happen, but fuck if I'm not gonna vote for the gay Jewish Republican cowboy political campaigner and shirt-ironing actor.

He's like the Old Spice Guy of presidential campaign.

Unfortunately, there is small possibility that Republican could win and America will have Bachmann as President.

the unemployment number is not good, and a lot of people will blame the president. a lot of people have very vague understanding of what president can or cannot do, its one of the weakness of presidential system.

Actually, it's more of a problem with the education system since a president is someone that can be pointed to as being "in charge" for a certain number of years and are present in small enough numbers that they can be memorized. It's worthless trivia, but it's on the education system.

I wanted to strangle someone after I heard Bachmann's husband call gay people "barbarians"

He may as well just go out and say "Niggers aren't humans"

Its the same hateful bile shit that you expect to hear from the god damn KKK, not the fucking spouse of a politician.

Last I checked, her husband isn't running for president; we'd all be screwed if our efforts to run were based on how our relatives acted.

A relative is different from spouse. If you are not in substantial agreement with your spouse on such issues, then you should probably consider a divorce.

edited 14th Jul '11 9:31:08 AM by blueharp

ESPECIALLY if you are a politician.

You think Obama's numbers would go up if Michelle starting going around calling hispanic people wetbacks?

I think we've well established that a Republican's image is irrelevant. Only liberals have to worry about that stuff.

Maybe but the fact that THE TOP CONTENDER associates with such hateful bile makes me sick.

Its 20fucking11 and we still have to deal with this crap.

A Republican's image is very relevant, just in different ways.

For example, if it gets out that you care out uninsured poor people, that's practically a death sentence.

They have a shibboleth about climate change and global warming too.

And taxes

They pretty much are idealists, right?

The Protestant Conscience™.

Religion and hard work for the rural areas, low taxes and deregulation for urban, religion and cutting funding and schools for the suburbans.

That seems to be the general plan they have.

Protestant...? Weren't they more liberal than the Catholics?

The protestants have backed a few "liberal" causes in the past, but considering even the original movement came out of getting rid of catholic regulations in favor of more literal readings of the Bible..they've always kinda been firmly planted in conservatisvism.

I mean, they even invented the Revival in the 1700s-1800's out of a reactionary fear that people were moving away from jesus and needed to be fire and brimstoned back into fear of god.

edited 14th Jul '11 1:37:17 PM by Midgetsnowman

Not the ones in America. They left England to go somewhere they could be extra-extra Conservative.

Sure is a lot of strawmanning the Republican Party lately in this thread.