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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Shouldn’t using deepfakes in an attack ad be pretty straightforwardly considered slander, even with the US’s extremely broad free speech protections? By creating a faked video, you’re knowingly lying, and you’re doing it with the intention of turning people against your opponent (even though “liking Fauci” is not, of course, defamatory under normal circumstances).
I think the usual thing that limits slander/libel cases in the US is that you need to prove a person KNEW they were lying, but deliberately creating a deepfake makes that part of it pretty clear.
Edited by Galadriel on Jun 8th 2023 at 12:33:36 PM
I do believe you could probably sue for it. Heck, if Trump did try to sue for it I would, for once, side with him (on this specific issue and almost nothing else).
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Yeah you absolutely should be able to sue.
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
President Biden attacked Republicans behind efforts that target LGBTQ Americans as "callous" and "hysterical." Calling them "totally, thoroughly unjustified and ugly," appeals to fear. Biden referred to "our kids... our neighbors" as the ones being hurt by rampant anti-LGBTQ laws passed in Republican states.
The White House was supposed to host an outdoor Pride event today, but it was delayed until the weekend because of the bad conditions created by the fire up north.
Pre-2016 me might have found these sort of antics "funny" in a "There's no way a good number of people will actually vote for these idiots" kind of way.
Post-2016 me will only find these antics "funny" after the election is over and these idiots do not win.
The Iron Sheik died so he could take Pat Robertson down with him.
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
FBI agent who House Republicans routed as a whistleblower over anti-conservative bias in the government was leaking sensitive information regarding criminal cases to Project Veritas. Notably he had already denied giving any information to the media, so now House Democrats are asking the Justice Department to investigate whether he lied to Congress.
I'm angry at all the local news media for interrupting normal programming to announce that Trump has announced the date of his indictment. Way to play his game you fucking shills.
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Why is it that whenever there's big gaming news, Donald Trump always get indicted lol
But anyway Trump is indicted..... again! I wonder how he's taking the news? Will he take responisility for his actions? Let's check his Truth Social.
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Edited by NoName999 on Jun 8th 2023 at 5:08:20 AM
What was he indicted for this time, again?
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
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Handling sensitive documents from what I understand.
Also, the trail is in Miami so it's not only in his home state, but also close enough to him.
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Why in Miami?
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It's likely the Do J wants to handle this case quickly for everyone and Trump would try to stall this out if it was anywhere other than Florida.
I'm sorry, but Boxes Hoax and the fact that Boxes is always capitalized makes the response way too funny than it has any right to be.
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"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
@Galadriel et al.: In general, politicians suing for slander except in the most utterly egregious cases is currently not Done for a couple of reasons. First, it's not done because it's Not Done. Second, the burden of proof in cases where a public figure is slandered is (correctly) extremely high, because the right to comment on politicians' actions is very important for a healthy democracy.
Also, do we want to encourage rich assholes to crush their political opponents like Hulk Hogan Peter Thiel crushed Gawker? The way lawsuits work, it really doesn't matter if they're justified because the cost of litigation is often enough to break poorer litigants whether they win or lose. Having political slander become an area of litigation would probably advantage the enemy and would certainly disadvantage democracy.
@Ramidel Yes, I think this specifically should be something that is legally punishable. Essentially, it's like a doctored photograph.
Imagine, for example, if someone used deepfakes to show [insert politician you like here] saying he loves Stalin and intends to create a police state, and then this is shown on television and presented as something the politician said at a speech.
This would be pretty bad.
Edited by Protagonist506 on Jun 8th 2023 at 5:56:28 AM
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Which is fair enough (my free speech absolutism doesn't extend to slander, obvs) but I do think it might open up a can of worms that we don't want to encourage until and unless Republicans start suing for it. We don't want to encourage the latter because they've got a lot more money and energy to screw things up with.
Or in other words, we don't want to end up suing someone for slander when the trial will earn them more than they lose in grift money. 
Edited by Ramidel on Jun 8th 2023 at 4:57:05 AM
Who else wants to be that this indictment will lead to fuck all again?
Reporters have been able to confirm JACK SMITH is charging Trump on at least seven different counts. "This ranges from everything from the willful retention of national defense information to conspiracy to a scheme to conceal, to false statements and representation."
I'm pretty sure that first one means he's going to be charged under the Espionage Act.
So... chances of Trump going to prison?
With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation
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I'd say pretty middling (coin-flip maybe?) but also it'll be the prison where all the rich people go.
The one prison in the US that has living conditions like how prisons should be.
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