Jupiterian Local
It's a supertrope. Most of the examples would go in the subtropes. The trope is "good people doing not-nice things". The sub tropes are "...because they're a jerk" (Jerkass Hero), "...because the alternative was worse" (Shoot the Dog), "...even though they didn't want to" (Dirty Business), etc.
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NaNo 4328 / 50,000
Yes, Indexes are pretty much all supertropes. there wouldn't be any reason to list the tropes together without that. What examples don't fit the subtropes?
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Jupiterian Local
Indexes and supertropes are not the same thing. Indexes are a list of tropes on the same subject. Dialogue, for example, is an index about tropes that involve talking. But "dialogue" itself is not a trope — you wouldn't list it on a work page and say "people talk to each other in this work". Supertropes, on the other hand, are tropes in and of themselves — even exampleless ones, where all examples go to a more-specific subtrope, are tropeworthy even as the more general version.
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NaNo 4328 / 50,000
So you don't want it to be an index, and you don't want to list any examples. I give up.
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Jupiterian Local
I never said I wanted it to be an index, nor did I say that it should be exampleless. I said I wanted it to be a supertrope, and supertropes never list examples that fit into their subtropes (but they do list examples that fit the supertrope but not any of the subtropes — if any such examples exist). This is standard procedure for TV Tropes, man, I'm not sure why you're having such a hard time with it.
edited 15th Jan '12 9:50:19 AM by NativeJovian
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Ravenous Sophovore
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So...if I understand you right, you went Good Is Not Nice to be an index, with tropes of heroic (and antiheroic) actions. I assume a see also for antihero. Make Jerkass Hero for "heroic" and unpleasant characters. Then use Good Is Not Soft for heroes that use morally ambiguous means on a regular basis.
No, wait; I don't understand you, because you told me that. I don't understand what is left of Good Is Not Nice as a trope if you're putting examples of heroes that make hard choices on a regular basis in Good Is Not Soft and examples of rude/unkind heroes under Jerkass Hero.
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