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randomtropeloser Since: Jan, 2001
#26: Jun 2nd 2011 at 4:17:12 PM

Interesting, especially the part about realizing that there is no individual self. That seems to be a bit of a theme I'm running into, though I've mostly just encountered it in Buddhism.

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#27: Jun 3rd 2011 at 6:12:07 AM

Yeah, that was interesting — actually, it reminds me quite a lot of Averroism (which basically taught that the human self has two parts, one individual and mortal and one shared among all intelligent beings and eternal, and which was the main way through which we learned about Aristotelian thought from you guys).

Can there have been some influence between Averroism and Sufism, in either direction?

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
Premonition45 Since: Mar, 2011
#28: Jun 15th 2011 at 9:08:07 PM

I'm what I like to call a "pramatic" Muslim.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Premonition45 Since: Mar, 2011
#30: Jun 16th 2011 at 6:46:29 PM

There are certain elements of Islam that ultimately don't hold well today, like with homosexuality.

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#31: Jun 16th 2011 at 7:32:20 PM

[up] Yes, but how do you know moderns are in the right?

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#32: Jun 18th 2011 at 8:23:15 AM

[up][up]Every religion is like that, no big. They were written for the times, after all.

edited 18th Jun '11 8:23:31 AM by MrAHR

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randomtropeloser Since: Jan, 2001
#33: Jun 18th 2011 at 10:16:37 AM

I think that followers of all religions should put importance not only on studying their holy texts, but studying the society and context in which those texts were written. Taking everything at face value can potentially be a very bad thing.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#34: Jun 18th 2011 at 10:29:59 AM

Yep, the whole hijab burkha thing is a prime example.

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#35: Jun 18th 2011 at 2:04:20 PM

[up][up] I'm Justice and I support this statement.

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And yes context is very important. The so called verse of the sword is pretty much about beating up a specific group of idolater aggressors. Yet people have taken it and ran with it...Which happens ALOT in Abrahamic faiths...

Kinda wonder if this happens with other religions as well.

edited 18th Jun '11 2:04:38 PM by Justice4243

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#36: Jun 22nd 2011 at 12:45:38 AM

[up] Agreed. Quoting 9:1-6 will give a whole new context for that verse.

edited 22nd Jun '11 12:46:09 AM by Blurring

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#37: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:32:45 AM

I'm muslim! Religiously... inactive... but nonetheless a muslim!

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#38: Jun 22nd 2011 at 3:08:26 PM

Inhopeless: I'm a casual muslim myself. A personal annoyance of mine is how people always seem to depict muslims in a positive light by...giving them uber muslim traits. It's like playing a gay guy completely and stereotypically flamboyant, but because he's a good guy, it's OK!

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Rottweiler Dog and Pony Show from Portland, Oregon Since: Dec, 2009
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#39: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:24:44 PM

@AHR:

I'm a casual muslim myself.

So jeans and a hijab?

I saw a few girls like that at university.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#40: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:27:36 PM

Not even a hijab. That's just it. Not even the majority of my turkish relatives wear hijabs.

When it comes to appearances, I make an effort not to draw on myself, or get piercings, but my sister was allowed to get her ears pierced, the same way most christians of the modern day are allowed to show their ankles and do stuff on sundays.

edited 22nd Jun '11 4:28:08 PM by MrAHR

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#41: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:33:02 PM

@AHR: I have seen your photos, you know. tongue

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#42: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:34:41 PM

I know. I don't know what people assume. Do you recall pictures of my blue bandanna? When seeing that, some people assumed I wore it due to being muslim. :|

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Rottweiler Dog and Pony Show from Portland, Oregon Since: Dec, 2009
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#43: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:37:32 PM

[up] Pffft. Maybe if you were a Muslim pirate.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#44: Jun 22nd 2011 at 4:38:24 PM

—snerk—

Well, I know what I'M doing with my life once I get out of college.

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#45: Aug 9th 2011 at 5:53:45 PM

AHR being a Muslim? I'm happily surprised at that. There should be seriously more of us on the fora.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#46: Aug 9th 2011 at 5:54:12 PM

Yeah. I'm casually muslim, but then again, most people around where I live are usually casually religious.

edited 9th Aug '11 5:54:24 PM by MrAHR

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#47: Aug 9th 2011 at 6:15:59 PM

Just dropping in to say hello.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#49: Aug 9th 2011 at 6:18:49 PM

Do you Muslims really bow to...where was that direction...seven times a day or is that just an myth/exaggration?

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