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    Original OP 
(I saw Allan mention the lack of one so I thought I'd make one.)

Recent political stuff:

  • The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
  • Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
  • The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.

A link to the BBC politics page containing relevant information.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM

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#45201: May 9th 2022 at 4:59:47 PM

So the images they've been using are a grainy shot through a window, a pre-covid picture of a dead man, and a picture of someone in a kitchen that came from an article about sending food to NHS workers?

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#45202: May 9th 2022 at 5:56:00 PM

The trigger for this frenzy seems to be the Labour front bench confirming they'll go after non-doms if they get into power, and they clearly feel "beergate" is the angle to use because it allows them to target the courts at the same time, which they want to overhaul into politicised US version. If Starmer resigns, they get rid of him; if Starmer doesn't, they get to sully the courts in his name and "bothsides" Partygate.

I'm sure people remember me pointing out the scale of the machine against Corbyn. We're seeing the same thing for Starmer. It started during the leadership campaigns for both men, and cranked up over time until something stuck. There's always been a machine working against Labour leaders, but it's affected two Tory leaders as well. The modern form first found its feet against Michael Foot, became brazen and anti-Welsh against Neil Kinnock, went after John Major, evolved greater complexity against Gordon Brown's Chancellor & PM years, introduced antisemitic angles against Michael Howard (+ anti-Welsh) and Ed Miliband, and is introducing a judiciary angle against Starmer.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 9th 2022 at 6:25:28 AM

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#45203: May 9th 2022 at 11:47:05 PM

I’m hopeful that Starmer can handle it better than past leaders have, that was rather his appeal to be as a party leader. So far he seems to be doing alright, his statement that he’d resign if finned comes across as strong and might break the “they’re all the same” rhetoric, the recent statement that Labour has proof of working till 1am that night is also good. Plus he’s avoided pissing off the smaller parties, both the Lib Dems and SNP are getting behind Starmer on this, while with Corbyn we really couldn’t circle the anti-Tory wagons.

[up][up] The grainy video was also filmed by the son of a Breitbart writer, so not exactly an independent source.

Edited by Silasw on May 9th 2022 at 7:53:21 PM

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#45204: May 10th 2022 at 7:21:03 AM

The third session of the 58th UK Parliament began this morning.

    Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (annotated with names of bills) 
My Lords and members of the House of Commons.

My Government’s priority is to grow and strengthen the economy and help ease the cost of living for families. My Government will level up opportunity in all parts of the country and support more people into work. My Ministers will continue to support the police to make the streets safer, and fund the National Health Service to reduce the COVID backlogs. In these challenging times, my Government will play a leading role in defending democracy and freedom across the world, including continuing to support the people of Ukraine.

My Government will drive economic growth to improve living standards and fund sustainable investment in public services. This will be underpinned by a responsible approach to the public finances, reducing debt while reforming and cutting taxes. My Ministers will support the Bank of England to return inflation to its target.

A Bill will be brought forward to drive local growth, empowering local leaders to regenerate their areas, and ensuring everyone can share in the United Kingdom’s success. The planning system will be reformed to give residents more involvement in local development [Levelling Up and Regeneration Bill].

My Government will improve transport across the United Kingdom, delivering safer, cleaner services and enabling more innovations. Legislation will be introduced to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers [Transport Bill].

My Ministers will bring forward an Energy Bill to deliver the transition to cheaper, cleaner, and more secure energy. This will build on the success of the COP 26 Summit in Glasgow last year [Energy Security Bill]. Draft legislation to promote competition, strengthen consumer rights and protect households and businesses will be published. Measures will also be published to create new competition rules for digital markets and the largest digital firms [Draft Digital Markets, Competition and Consumer Bill].

My Government will establish the UK Infrastructure Bank in legislation, with objectives to support economic growth and the delivery of net zero [UK Infrastructure Bank Bill].

Reforms to education will help every child fulfil their potential wherever they live, raising standards and improving the quality of schools and higher education [Schools Bill, Higher Education Bill]. My Ministers will publish draft legislation to reform the Mental Health Act [Draft Mental Health Act Reform Bill].

My Government will continue to seize the opportunities of the United Kingdom’s departure from the European Union, to support economic growth. Regulations on businesses will be repealed and reformed. A bill will enable law inherited from the European Union to be more easily amended [Brexit Freedoms Bill]. Public sector procurement will be simplified to provide new opportunities for small businesses [Procurement Bill].

New legislation will strengthen the United Kingdom’s financial services industry, ensuring that it continues to act in the interest of all people and communities [Financial Services and Markets Bill]. The United Kingdom’s data protection regime will be reformed [Data Reform Bill].

My Government will continue to champion international trade, delivering jobs across the country and growing the economy. Legislation will be introduced to enable the implementation of the United Kingdom’s first new Free Trade Agreements since leaving the European Union [Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill].

My Ministers will encourage agricultural and scientific innovation at home. Legislation will unlock the potential of new technologies to promote sustainable and efficient farming and food production [Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill].

My Government will protect the integrity of the United Kingdom’s borders and ensure the safety of its people. My Ministers will take action to prevent dangerous and illegal Channel crossings and tackle the criminal gangs who profit from facilitating them. Legislation will be introduced to ensure the police have the powers to make the streets safer [Public Order Bill].

A bill will be brought forward to further strengthen powers to tackle illicit finance, reduce economic crime and help businesses grow [Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill]. Measures will be introduced to support the security services and help them protect the United Kingdom [National Security Bill].

My Government will lead the way in championing security around the world. It will continue to invest in our gallant Armed Forces. My Ministers will work closely with international partners to maintain a united NATO and address the most pressing global security challenges.

The continued success and integrity of the whole of the United Kingdom is of paramount importance to my Government, including the internal economic bonds between all of its parts. My Government will prioritise support for the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement and its institutions, including through legislation to address the legacy of the past [Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill].

My Government will ensure the constitution is defended. My Ministers will restore the balance of power between the legislature and the courts by introducing a Bill of Rights [Bill of Rights]. Legislation will prevent public bodies engaging in boycotts that undermine community cohesion [Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions Bill].

My Government will introduce legislation to improve the regulation of social housing to strengthen the rights of tenants and ensure better quality, safer homes [Social Housing Regulation Bill]. Legislation will also be introduced to ban conversion therapy [Conversion Therapy Bill]. Proposals will be published to establish an independent regulator of English football.

In this year of my Platinum Jubilee, I look forward to the celebrations taking place across the United Kingdom and throughout the Commonwealth, and to the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham this summer.

MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS

Estimates for the public services will be laid before you.

MY LORDS AND MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS

Other measures will be laid before you.

I pray that the blessing of Almighty God may rest upon your counsels.

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#45205: May 10th 2022 at 8:18:21 AM

Well, it looks like in addition to not covering trans and nonbinary people, the conversion therapy ban's full of an entire conversion therapy industry's worth of loopholes.

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#45206: May 10th 2022 at 8:46:23 AM

Ah yes, the whole "as long as it looks like we're doing something it doesn't matter if we actually do it or not" approach.

Edited by Deadbeatloser22 on May 10th 2022 at 4:46:31 PM

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#45207: May 10th 2022 at 2:29:45 PM

I’m hopeful that Starmer can handle it better than past leaders have, that was rather his appeal to be as a party leader.

The issue is to what degree party leaders play ball with the media agenda. Everyone I mentioned got on the wrong side of the media for a reason. Even Tony Blair experienced the media turning on him when he criticised them for how they were reporting on Hurricane Katrina. The Iraq war itself wasn't the main trigger; it was him criticising how the media caused life-threatening confusion over whether a New Orleans hospital had been fully evacuated.

So far he seems to be doing alright, his statement that he’d resign if finned comes across as strong and might break the “they’re all the same” rhetoric, the recent statement that Labour has proof of working till 1am that night is also good.

Bothsidism isn't fixed so easily. As soon as he came out with the statement, the story changed to claim he's putting political pressure on Durham Police to rule in his favour. It's about shifting the goalposts.

Plus he’s avoided pissing off the smaller parties, both the Lib Dems and SNP are getting behind Starmer on this, while with Corbyn we really couldn’t circle the anti-Tory wagons.

When Labour tacks left, the scare stories are about Labour-SNP pacts; when Labour tacks right, the scare stories are about Labour-LD pacts.

Local tactical alliances have been increasing since 2010, especially since 2015, and have come to the foreground since 2019. The official Labour leadership position has always been to never make pacts with other parties, but what happens at the local level can be a different story. That's why we saw things like LD activists and constituency teams rebelling against the LD leadership to stand down for Labour in 2017 and 2019 elections, who tried to return the favour in other constituencies elsewhere.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 10th 2022 at 3:22:20 AM

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Last_Hussar Since: Nov, 2013
#45208: May 10th 2022 at 4:24:13 PM

Most of the British print media is owned by people who profit off right wing governments.

I'm not saying discount everything, but just apply that filter.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#45209: May 10th 2022 at 4:46:05 PM

Yes.

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#45210: May 11th 2022 at 2:54:21 AM

The House of Commons is launching a podcast.[1]

Marking the start of a new parliamentary session, Committee Corridor will air six episodes from May 12 until the summer recess, with a further six episodes expected during the Autumn. This pilot podcast from the Select Committee Team will demonstrate how select committees can influence the arguments and outcomes of some of the biggest topics in 2022.

Each podcast will feature a key interview with an expert external guest followed by discussion by parliamentarians. Select committees reflect the make-up of the House of Commons, resulting in a cross-party balance of members and the opportunity to hear voices from across the political spectrum.

The first host of Committee Corridor will be the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, Tom Tugendhat MP, who takes a deeper look at international affairs. In the first episode on May 12, he explores what Russia’s actions in Ukraine mean for its relationships across the world and with the UK. He speaks with Fiona Hill, a former director for Europe and Russia at the US National Security Council, who served as an intelligence analyst under Presidents George W Bush and Barack Obama and later, as deputy assistant to President Donald Trump. The podcast conversation then moves to Foreign Affairs Committee members, the SNP’s Stewart Malcolm Mc Donald MP and Conservative, Alicia Kearns MP. Future episodes include the security situation in Afghanistan and the status of Taiwan. Comments

The podcast’s first host, Tom Tugendhat MP, said:

“As a new parliamentary session gets underway, it feels like the perfect time to launch a new podcast on the work of the select committees – an essential part of the scrutiny of our Government. I’m delighted to be the first host of Committee Corridor and to bring some of our thinking to a wider audience, starting with international affairs and Ukraine. From her UK/US perspective, Fiona Hill offers us a unique insight on what’s driving the Russian President Vladimir Putin. Opening this to Committee colleagues, we consider the impact of his actions on the UK’s relationships, near and far.”

The Managing Director of the Select Committee Team, Colin Lee, said:

“Away from the heat of the House of Commons Chamber, MPs regularly sit down with colleagues from all parties to focus on examining key questions of the day and how they relate to the work of Government. Working together, Members weigh up the evidence and ask the questions that need asking, resulting in work which challenges and influences Government action. The House of Commons aspires to bring that work to life for as wide an audience as possible. We hope this podcast will offer a new way to engage with the work of select committees.”

Select Committees have become an established and critical part of the UK’s parliamentary democracy. Along the length of committee corridor above the House of Commons and in Portcullis House, cross-party groups of MPs work together to investigate critical issues of the day and put their findings directly to Government, who must respond. Recent examples include failings in maternity hospitals, concerns about smart motorways, the evacuation of Afghanistan in summer 2021 and during the Coronavirus pandemic, MPs pushed ministers, officials and former employees for the evidence to back up Government actions.

Committee Corridor will be available from the UK Parliament website as well as all the usual podcast providers. A transcript of each episode will be published on the day of release. Plans are underway to profile the work of other select committees in a further six episodes in the Autumn.

Edited by TommyR01D on May 11th 2022 at 2:55:32 AM

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#45211: May 12th 2022 at 3:51:30 AM

Episode one now out - The War in Ukraine.[1]

TommyR01D Since: Feb, 2015
#45212: May 13th 2022 at 2:04:00 PM

The Baroness Afshar, President of the British Society for Middle Eastern Studies and Professor of Politics & Women's Studies at the University of York, died yesterday aged 77.

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#45213: May 16th 2022 at 9:18:51 PM

Be interesting to see what happens next in Northern Ireland now that Sinn Fein gained a majority.

TommyR01D Since: Feb, 2015
#45214: May 17th 2022 at 5:08:41 PM

Today's stats:

  • 00,177,410 (00.3%) deaths
  • 22,304,799 (32.9%) cases
  • 53,337,395 (78.6%) first doses
  • 49,844,562 (73.4%) second doses
  • 39,474,656 (58.1%) third doses

The Queen opened the Elizabeth Line a week earlier than expected:

A Conservative MP has been arrested on suspicion of rape.[1]

TommyR01D Since: Feb, 2015
#45215: May 20th 2022 at 9:24:28 AM

The towns of Bangor, Colchester, Doncaster, Douglas, Dunfermline, Milton Keynes, Stanley and Wrexham are to receive city status. Southampton has been granted a Lord Mayoralty.[1][2]

The Baroness Sharples, Member of the House of Lords 1973-2017, died yesterday aged 99.

Northern Ireland is no longer reporting deaths from or cases of COVID-19, and the UK government is no longer updating its UK-wide figures, switching to England only.[3]

Edited by TommyR01D on May 25th 2022 at 12:36:30 PM

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#45216: May 20th 2022 at 9:26:13 AM

Does that actually do anything? I never paid much attention.

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#45217: May 20th 2022 at 9:59:05 AM

It's purely honorific, though it can indirectly boost the economy.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#45218: May 21st 2022 at 10:33:02 AM

That's the Bangor that's in Northern Ireland, for the record. The Bangor that's in Wales has been a city for centuries (as a cathedral city) but had city status formalised in 1974.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 21st 2022 at 10:35:14 AM

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#45219: May 25th 2022 at 12:34:58 PM

    Statement by the Prime Minister on Sue Gray's report 

With permission, I will make a statement, Mr Speaker. I am grateful to Sue Gray for her report today, and I want to thank her for the work that she has done. I also thank the Metropolitan police for completing its investigation.

I want to begin today by renewing my apology to the House and to the whole country for the short lunchtime gathering on 19 June 2020 in the Cabinet Room, during which I stood at my place at the Cabinet table and for which I received a fixed penalty notice. I also want to say, above all, that I take full responsibility for everything that took place on my watch. Sue Gray’s report has emphasised that it is up to the political leadership in No. 10 to take ultimate responsibility, and, of course, I do. But since these investigations have now come to an end, this is my first opportunity to set out some of the context, and to explain both my understanding of what happened and what I have previously said to the House.

It is important to set out that over a period of about 600 days, gatherings on a total of eight dates have been found to be in breach of the regulations in a building that is 5,300 metres square across five floors, excluding the flats—[Interruption.] Mr Speaker, I do think this is important, because it is the first chance I have had to set out the context.

Hundreds of staff are entitled to work there, and the Cabinet Office, which has thousands of officials, is now the biggest that it has been at any point in its 100-year history. That is, in itself, one of the reasons why the Government are now looking for change and reform.

Those staff working in Downing Street were permitted to continue attending their office for the purpose of work, and the exemption under the regulations applied to their work because of the nature of their jobs, reporting directly to the Prime Minister. These people were working extremely long hours, doing their best to give this country the ability to fight the pandemic during—[Interruption.] Mr Speaker, I appreciate that this is no mitigation, but it is important to set out the context.

Mr Speaker, I am trying to set out the context, not to mitigate or to absolve myself in any way.

The exemption under which those staff were present in Downing Street includes circumstances where officials and advisers were leaving the Government, and it was appropriate to recognise them and to thank them for the work that they have done. [Interruption.] Let me come to that, Mr Speaker. I briefly attended such gatherings to thank them for their service—which I believe is one of the essential duties of leadership, and is particularly important when people need to feel that their contributions have been appreciated—and to keep morale as high as possible. [Interruption.] I am trying to explain the reasons why I was there, Mr Speaker.

It is clear from what Sue Gray has had to say that some of these gatherings then went on far longer than was necessary. They were clearly in breach of the rules, and they fell foul of the rules. I have to tell the House, because the House will need to know this—again, this is not to mitigate or to extenuate—that I had no knowledge of subsequent proceedings, because I simply was not there, and I have been as surprised and disappointed as anyone else in this House as the revelations have unfolded. Frankly, I have been appalled by some of the behaviour, particularly in the treatment of the security and the cleaning staff. I would like to apologise to those members of staff, and I expect anyone who behaved in that way to apologise to them as well.

I am happy to set on the record now that when I came to this House and said in all sincerity that the rules and guidance had been followed at all times, it was what I believed to be true. It was certainly the case when I was present at gatherings to wish staff farewell—the House will note that my attendance at these moments, brief as it was, has not been found to be outside the rules—but clearly this was not the case for some of those gatherings after I had left, and at other gatherings when I was not even in the building. So I would like to correct the record—to take this opportunity, not in any sense to absolve myself of responsibility, which I take and have always taken, but simply to explain why I spoke as I did in this House.

In response to her interim report, Sue Gray acknowledges that very significant changes have already been enacted. She writes:

“I am pleased progress is being made in addressing the issues I raised.”

She adds:

“Since my update there have been changes to the organisation and management of Downing Street and the Cabinet Office with the aim of creating clearer lines of leadership and accountability and now these need the chance and time to bed in.”

No. 10 now has its own permanent secretary, charged with applying the highest standards of governance. There are now easier ways for staff to voice any worries, and Sue Gray welcomes the fact that

“steps have since been taken to introduce more easily accessible means by which to raise concerns electronically, in person or online, including directly with the Permanent Secretary”.

The entire senior management has changed. There is a new chief of staff, an elected Member of this House who commands the status of a Cabinet Minister. There is a new director of communications, a new principal private secretary and a number of other key appointments in my office. I am confident, with the changes and new structures that are now in place, that we are humbled by the experience and we have learned our lesson.

I want to conclude by saying that I am humbled, and I have learned a lesson. Whatever the failings—[Interruption.] We will come to that. Whatever the failings of No. 10 and the Cabinet Office throughout this very difficult period—[Interruption.] And my own, for which I take full responsibility. I continue to believe that the civil servants and advisers in question—hundreds of them, thousands of them, some of whom are the very people who have received fines—are good, hard-working people, motivated by the highest calling to do the very best for our country. I will always be proud of what they achieved, including procuring essential life-saving personal protective equipment, creating the biggest testing programme in Europe and helping to enable the development and distribution of the vaccine that got this country through the worst pandemic of a century.

Now we must get our country through the aftershocks of covid with every ounce of ingenuity, compassion and hard work. I hope that today, as well as learning the lessons from Sue Gray’s report, which I am glad I commissioned—I am grateful to her—we will be able to move on and focus on the priorities of the British people: standing firm against Russian aggression; easing the hardship caused by the rising costs that people are facing; and fulfilling our pledges to generate a high-wage, high-skill, high-employment economy that will unite and level up across the whole of our United Kingdom. That is my mission, that is our mission, that is the mission of the whole Government, and we will work day and night to deliver it. I commend this statement to the House.

The report itself can be read here.[1]

The Elizabeth Line opened to passengers yesterday.

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#45220: May 26th 2022 at 2:15:26 PM

CBBC and BBC Four will be removed from broadcast television in the next few years, becoming online-only.[1]

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#45221: May 26th 2022 at 2:19:05 PM

Because that worked so well for BBC Three didn’t it?

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#45223: May 27th 2022 at 7:13:31 PM

I mean, it makes perfect sense. He wasn't elected on a promise to obey the law - quite the opposite. Democracy amirite?

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#45224: May 28th 2022 at 7:34:01 AM

Government 'pushing England's universities out of teacher training' over leftwing politics

Leaders in higher education said this week they believed the government was trying to push universities out of teacher training for political reasons because ministers thought their education departments were "hotbeds of leftwing intellectualism" and full of "Marxists".

Under changes announced last summer, all initial teacher training providers in England must be re-accredited by the Department for Education to continue educating teachers from 2024. However, two-thirds of providers, including some top universities, were told this month that they had failed the first round of the new accreditation process. The DfE said last week that just 80 providers, out of 216 who are understood to have applied, had made the cut.

Those currently out in the cold include some from the prestigious Russell Group. The University of Nottingham, a member of the elite group, said it was "very disappointed and perplexed" to have been failed only two months after Ofsted rated it as outstanding, with inspectors praising the "exceptional curriculum taught by experts".

The University of Birmingham, which the DfE has chosen as one of the specialist partners for its new school-based National Institute of Teaching, also failed the first round of accreditation.

The head of one university that failed, who asked not to be named for fear of deterring applicants, said: "Our staff involved in teacher education, who are excellent, were devastated by not being successful. They find it hard to believe because of our track record."

The DfE has said providers can reapply, but experts say some big universities are so outraged they may walk away from teacher training altogether, exacerbating fears about teacher shortages in many subjects. Cambridge University did not apply for the accreditation due to fears its curriculum would be compromised.

Mary Bousted, the general secretary of the National Education Union, said: "This was the brainchild of [former schools minister] Nick Gibb, who was obsessed with the idea that university departments of teacher education were hotbeds of leftwing intellectualism. I told him I didn't know how to convey my frustration that he was coming out with this rubbish."

Prof David Spendlove, associate dean of Manchester University's faculty of humanities and former head of initial teacher education, said: "As education secretary, Michael Gove talked about fighting 'the Blob' [the education establishment]. He and Nick Gibb had this idea that universities and teacher education departments were all Marxists. Their influence hasn't gone away."

Manchester passed the accreditation, but Prof Spendlove believes the new process is "damaging the very bedrock" of university teacher education and it is now "harder to stay in it than to leave".

"People who have been doing this for a very long time are being told they aren’t fit for purpose, despite all the positive inspections they've been through. That’s a farce," he said.

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#45225: May 28th 2022 at 8:41:01 AM

Well that's a purge.

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