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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM
A procrastination in of itself
Wait, hedonism then altruism? Shouldn't they be the other way around?
Also what did Catholics, Postmodernists and Third Wave Feminists all do?
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Also, who the hell coloured that graph?
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Pronounced YAK-you-luss
If someone's putting postmodernism and socialism in the 'regressive left' section, that's a 'cultural Marxism' anti-Semitic dogwhistle. If third-wave feminism is not 'science accurate' like 'classic feminism', that's a transphobic dogwhistle. It's an alt-right product (poorly) disguised as a centrist one, and she spent all day defending it.
What's precedent ever done for us?
Well, that's a unique kind of fuckery.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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> Also, who the hell coloured that graph?
someone who can't colour in the lines
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I was more thinking that red and blue should have been swapped.
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That's how you can tell it was originally American.
What's precedent ever done for us?
Wow, anarchism is so similar to Wahhabi funamentalism! I never knew that!
So looks like there's going to be no legal enforcement of the Benn Act apparently because "he totally said he'd comply honest".
Captain of the Dead City
Well, they just don't see the need for the courts to do it when there's already an act of Parliament doing the same thing, as I understand it.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Oct 7th 2019 at 3:52:18 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
And Boris has publicly gone on about breaking said Act of Parliament. The point of this court case was making sure he can't.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Captain of the Dead City
Court documents say that he will, however. Yes, his general rhetoric over the matter is clashing with what legal memos are saying. But Courts would believe the court documents rather than the go with the contradiction between verbally saying they will not seek an extension and unconvincing promises to get a deal. If the courts had ruled the other way, they'd be essentially stating that they fully expect him to break the law, and that's not the done thing in any "innocent until proven guilty" system IMO.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Oct 7th 2019 at 4:02:56 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Well excuse me if I refuse to take Boris on his word alone.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
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That's not what COURTS do. He hasn't got a history of not complying (and somehow retaining office) in contravention of written documentation, so there aren't grounds to compel him. The courts can't adjudicate presumptively.
Parliament could, but I don't see them deciding to mess with convention and just legislate that Johnson isn't PM any more.
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Now that Chancellor Merkel has done the incredibly reasonable thing of politely telling Boris where to stick his offer-that-isn't-an-offer after warning everybody for months about what she wouldn't accept, where does this leave his plan to try instigating reprisal measures against EU states that reject his government's Brexit "plans"?
Trying an economic and diplomatic war against Germany? When did that get clever?
Unless he's been huffing likely lobbyist ideas of joining forces with the US, that is, and is therefore suffering delusions of great support.
Well, unless it's Turkey, Saudi Arabia and freaking bloody Russia he's decided to put all our eggs in the basket with due to the talking heads he's surrounded by.
I can't decide which outcome would be worse at this juncture, to be honest.
He needs gone.
Edited by Euodiachloris on Oct 8th 2019 at 1:50:04 PM
"Officially, the prime minister's spokesman said the talks - aimed at securing an agreement at next week's EU summit - were "at a crucial point", but denied they were over.
Scotland's First Minister and leader of the SNP, Nicola Sturgeon, said Downing Street's response to the phone call was an "attempt to shift the blame for the Brexit fiasco".
And Labour's shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer said Mr Johnson "will never take responsibility for his own failure to put forward a credible deal"."
Sir, you dont know is not polite to said the truth outloud?
Then again you are british, you are are famous for being creable rude and yet polite at the same time.
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Johnson's abusing the fact that Berlin isn't Washington and won't just unilaterally publish talk logs.
Edit: Spiegel is positing that Johnson is trying to piss off the EU enough so they tell the UK to fuck off about any extension
Edited by 3of4 on Oct 8th 2019 at 10:06:00 AM
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Parliament has been prorogued to Monday the 14th day of October.
The Lords Commissioners were:
- Justin Portal, Archbishop of Canterbury (Primate of All England & Metropolitan)
- Robert James Buckland (Chancellor of Great Britain)
- Peter Norman, Lord Fowler (Lord Speaker)
- Natalie Jessica, Baroness Evans of Bowes Park (Lord Privy Seal)
- Richard Mark, Lord Newby
- Igor, Lord Judge
- Angela Evans, Baroness Smith of Basildon
Royal Assent was given to the Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) Act 2019 and the Census (Return Particulars and Removal of Penalties) Act 2019.
The Queen's speech, delivered by the Lord Privy Seal, was as follows.
My Government’s legislative programme has laid the foundations for the United Kingdom’s departure from the European Union while pursuing wide-ranging domestic reform.
Landmark legislation was passed, and has now been commenced, to repeal the European Communities Act. Other laws are in place to enable the United Kingdom’s smooth exit from the European Union, establishing new arrangements on international sanctions, nuclear safeguards, customs, and reciprocal healthcare arrangements. Over 600 Statutory Instruments have been made to ensure a functioning statute book following the United Kingdom’s departure from the European Union.
The stability and strength of the union that joins England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland has been at the forefront of my Government’s agenda. Preserving and promoting the social, economic and cultural bonds that unite this nation remains of the utmost importance to my Government. My Government continues to work to ensure that locally-accountable politicians can take decisions in Northern Ireland at the earliest opportunity.
It has been an enduring focus of my Government to strengthen the economy to support the creation of jobs and to generate the tax revenues needed to invest in the National Health Service, schools and other public services. Improving public finances, while keeping taxes low, has been a priority for my Government. Legislation passed this session has provided one hundred per cent relief from business rates for agricultural nurseries and, for a period of five years from April 2017, properties used for the purpose of new fibre infrastructure.
My Government has set out a programme of work to improve productivity and help businesses create high quality, well paid jobs across the United Kingdom. In 2019, more than a million workers benefited from the largest increase to the National Living Wage since it was first introduced. My ministers have worked to attract investment in infrastructure to support economic growth. Legislation has been passed to ensure that the United Kingdom remains a world leader in new industries, including electric cars and commercial satellites.
My Government has continued to support international action against climate change, including implementation of the Paris agreement. Recognising the need for bold steps to protect the planet, a commitment to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050 was enshrined in law, making the United Kingdom the first major economy to do so.
Draft legislation was published which will establish a new body to ensure the United Kingdom’s high environmental standards are maintained and to protect and improve the environment for future generations. My Government has legislated to protect animals, including bans on the sale of ivory, puppies and kittens by commercial third parties and the use of wild animals in travelling circuses in England.
Voyeurism offences have been recognised as the crimes that they are and legislation has been passed to ensure the courts have powers to take swift action to protect children who are identified as at risk of female genital mutilation.
In presenting the long-term plan for the National Health Service in England, my Government strengthened its commitment to ensuring there is a world-class health system that supports everyone from birth, through the challenges that life brings, and into old age. My Government is committed to ensuring mental health support is available to all who need it and to protecting the fundamental human rights of the most vulnerable in society. Legislation enacted this session will increase access to protections and put in place robust safeguards for those who are deprived of their liberty.
In recognition of the need to make renting fairer and more affordable, and to promote fairness and transparency in the housing market, legislation has been enacted to reduce costs at the outset of, and throughout a tenancy, by banning most letting fees paid by tenants in England.
My Government has taken steps to ensure fairer markets and to protect consumers from unfair practices and financial losses. Legislation has been passed to ensure people have access to free and impartial financial guidance and debt advice and to introduce a ban on nuisance calls in relation to pensions. Measures have been enacted to reduce insurance costs for motorists by tackling the high number and cost of whiplash claims.
The security of the nation and its citizens remains of the highest importance to my Government. In this session, legislation has been passed to ensure the police and security services have the powers they need to keep the population safe in the face of evolving threats of terrorism.
Legislation passed this session marks a significant step towards my Government’s commitment to tackle serious violence on the streets of the United Kingdom. Laws are now in place to prevent young people from purchasing dangerous weapons and to prosecute those who possess such items, or sell them without imposing rigorous age verification.
The defence of the Realm remains an utmost priority for my Government, which it has supported through investment in our gallant Armed Forces.
As a leading member of the international coalition against Daesh, the United Kingdom played a critical role in the military defeat of Daesh’s so-called caliphate in March of this year. While the Middle East continues to suffer from serious conflict, my Government has played a leading role in de-escalating regional tensions. My Government has also played a key role in international efforts to protect the United Kingdom and its allies from hostile threats, including in response to the chemical weapon attack in Salisbury.
As a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, my Government has provided political and diplomatic support to peace efforts in Yemen, Libya and Syria, as well as mitigating the human cost of these tragedies through the provision of substantial humanitarian assistance.
Prince Philip and I were pleased to welcome Their Majesties King Felipe and Queen Letizia of Spain and we also welcomed King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and the President and First Lady of the United States of America, on State Visits.
Prince Charles and I were delighted to attend a national commemorative event to honour and remember the heroism, courage and sacrifice of the many servicemen and women who participated in the D-Day Landings.
Members Of The House Of Commons
I thank you for the provisions which you have made for the work and dignity of the Crown and for the public services.
My Lords And Members Of The House Of Commons
I pray that the blessing of Almighty God may rest upon your counsels.
We're getting an emergency sitting on the 19th so Boris can lay out his plans for breaking the law though.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Oh, bother.
I like how the Queen’s proclamation ended with basically “God help you”. It sounds like a veiled jab at Boris.
Edited by M84 on Oct 9th 2019 at 6:34:52 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Captain of the Dead City
Aye, it doesn't seem to be out of the ordinary though. Just had a look and the 2015 and 2017 speeches ended the same way.
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Oh, bother.
Although considering what shitstorms those terms ended up as...
Disgusted, but not surprised
Captain of the Dead City
Doesn't seem to be out of the ordinary in any case.
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Yes, "I pray that the blessing of Almighty God may rest upon your counsels." is the standard ending for monarchs' parliamentary speeches.
The Lib Dem parliamentary candidate for the Cotswolds tweeted an impressive lump of raw insanity
◊. She deleted it, so that link is to a screenshot, but her replies defending it are still up.
What's precedent ever done for us?