Justice League

Thank you. God that is the stupidest thing... Snyder...

Edited by jjjj2 on Mar 4th 2021 at 10:43:20 AM

It also ends with Diana and Arthur becoming monarchs of their nations and Superman and Lois reconciling, with Superman "having a reason to be Clark again." Bruce and Lois' son becomes Batman 20 years in the future.

Okay, my first question (beyond "are these legit") is honestly... when did movie Lois and Batman have any attraction, much less an affair? Like was that in Bv S anywhere? Cause otherwise it seems super out of left field.

Edited by Aleistar on Mar 4th 2021 at 10:50:02 AM

I can overstate how much venomous rage I feel over this entire plot point of Bruce and Lois having a child.

Fuck I cannot comprehend my own anger.......

This was my face just by reading the first sentence alone.◊

Edited by Akirakan on Mar 4th 2021 at 10:54:19 AM

Reading this, it's like Snyder wanted to do his own Avengers: Endgame, but just way worse.

It's not an idea that is inherently unfathomable, heck it might make for an interesting Elseworlds. But have they ever been paired up before to provide a means of building up chemistry? Or is it just a thing that's happening out of nowhere in order to subvert expectations?

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 4th 2021 at 10:54:54 AM

Yeah, even as hardcore fan of Bv S that make me scratch my head in confusion.

What is weird is that if you take much of bruce part, the movie sound pretty really damn good, specially the part of Superman inspiring the world to unite against darkside that sound a good way to show the boy scout as symbol of the world.

We do get some interesting production details here though. Apparently, the Flash movie was supposed to feature Captain Cold as the main villain before it got changed into a Flashpoint adaptation. The Batman (2022) was going to be part of the DCEU before Affleck left the project, with the Riddler still being the main villain. And Aquaman (2018) would've been a very different movie before James Wan was brought on to direct, as Arthur would be trying to unite the Seven Kindgoms, and Orm and Black Manta would've been imprisoned inside a desert prison together.

It also explains why Dr. Maru kind of wandered off during the end of Wonder Woman (2017), Snyder was hoping to have her as one of the villains during this movie.

Which considering we dont see her in the sequel can said she will still be around.

Okay, the only other adaptation I can think of where Bruce and Lois had any romantic interest in another was the DCAU, and even there it was only for a very short period and fizzled out after she learned he was Batman. Also, was the future Batman supposed to be his take on Batman Beyond? If so... ffs, dude.

Oh yay Lois gets damseled again. At least she does something?

Wonder Woman and Maru die, as well as all of the Amazons? Why would you do this Snyder? Yes, I know it gets time-traveled away, but still.

So everyone is "led and inspired by Superman" to unite. ...Not the Justice League as a whole? Just Superman? Why just him?

I think that we need to address the fact that Lois apparently cheated on Superman with Batman for ...purely stupid plot reasons.

Yeah the only instance I can think of was the DCAU but that fizzled out quickly & Lois being another one that got away as shown in the montage of past love interests in Beyond.

This makes no sense. Lois has no reason to fall for a guy like Bruce. She's not a shallow gold digger nor is she damaged like Talia and Catwoman find his own dysfunction attractive.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 4th 2021 at 8:05:36 AM

Pretty much because it will get plot time travel, is typical in this kind of stories to have a large cast of protagonist die so you can undo their death, it pretty much happen in day of future past.

And superman is the asociate symbol of hope, I guess since diana and aquaman unite the kindoms with earth it will be superman who unite humanity, to tie finally around the whole idea of what superman means since man of steel

Edited by unknowing on Mar 4th 2021 at 12:11:16 PM

The boards are apparently legitimate and were presented to an art gallery, but was a VERY early pitch outlining the broad story arc, meaning somewhere between the release of Man of Steel and the scripting for BVS (the Knightmare sequence in BVS was developed to lead in to Justice League). The most controversial part is evidently Lois is pregnant with Bruce's child, which is used as a crux point for Set Right What Once Went Wrong. It seems that by BVS that had changed, as Flash says that "Lois is the key" rather than informing Bruce that he is the father of Lois' child. I don't mind the idea of a romance between them, as that was used in Superman the Animated Series, but this feels more melodrama than character drama. Snyder himself said not long ago just that they had planned on a romance between Bruce and Lois to push forward a "maybe I can retire for her" arc, but was vetoed early on.

A video was released on Twitter focusing on Batman. Nothing's been directly said but it seems to imply that they will have similar videos for each member of the League. Notable in this video is dialogue from a variety of different characters, including what seems to be Ray Porter as Darkseid and Harry Lennix speaking as Martian Manhunter.

Yeah, this is seen to be a early pitch and those have very weird stuff, the same can be said in iron man 2 were vanko die without even fought tony or how aparently in avenger endgame we will see thanos throwing the head of alt-cap to show he kill them all.

But I guess the status as batman cuck superman will remain, isnt?.

Edited by unknowing on Mar 4th 2021 at 12:18:07 PM

There's some parts of this that are alright actually - the world's army, the Amazons and the Atlanteans, and maybe also the Green Lanterns could be pretty epic, though it might seem like a bit of a pale imitation of the Avengers Endgame big fight.

Bruce and Lois having an affair and child, and the time travel plot being centred around that is hella dumb though.

That "imitation" seen to be a coincidence but I wonder if WB would allow zack to show that after endgame.

And the bruce having a child with lois it is indeed dumb but it seen they vetod the thing and would have end with Clark and Lois calling their own child bruce which it would be more apropiate.

I was going to post the video with the MM dialogue.

As now expected, A Superman-Centric character video.

And now, an Aquaman-Centric video. Here no new footage is shown just maybe a little extended, but we do hear Vulko say "Take up your mothers trident."

Assuming that line wasn't just for that video, but Arthur's mom's trident is technically a quindent.

I had the biggest brain fart and thought Arthur's mom's trident was the Trident of Atlan, and thus the Snyder Cut would end up becoming a massive splinter timeline thing.

Just to clarify, The Snyder Cut is essentially a Schrödinger's Movie wherein either this or the Whedon Cut can be regarded as canon with the other movies, right?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 6th 2021 at 10:49:15 AM

This is 100% Snyder with no thought for the post Snyder divergences.

The movie will be closer to the movie that Wonder Woman was supposed to lead into and Aquaman was supposed to follow. The broadest of story points, Steppenwolf arrives, the League forms, Superman is resurrected and together they stop him, is likely to be the same. The biggest change relative to Broad Strokes going forward would be how much the League learns of Darkseid, but otherwise any other plot points that are brought up will likely be an Aborted Arc for future movies.

DC and continuity has always been a messy combination.

So, how do you think the upcoming film will end? How long will its Knightmare sequence(s) be?