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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#576: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:44:30 PM

I just said they don't have to be...

—shrugs—

Eh. Fine.

Hey, maybe next character thread I'll try my hand on it. Will give me time to figure out what character will come off as the least...flat...

Then again...

hm...

edited 25th Apr '11 5:45:31 PM by MrAHR

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OhSoIntoCats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#577: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:47:08 PM

@QQQQQ

We're getting down to a nature versus nurture argument. You say by forcing your character into shapes they're inherently not is finding out parts of them you never knew. I say it's inherently changing them as characters.

QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#578: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:47:55 PM

Also, QQQQQ, can we please have a discussion thread for Character Carnival? I know OOC-chatter is discourage, and you say that it draws us out of the story. However, do you prefer us blabbling off in one thread, or putting Swiss cheese all over the main thread, while derailing this thread? People like to chatter. It's a part of doing a collab story.

I felt worried that out-of-character talk would ruin the immersion and experience. We can have another thread, for the OOC in a different place.

We're getting down to a nature versus nurture argument. You say by forcing your character into shapes they're inherently not is finding out parts of them you never knew. I say it's inherently changing them as characters.

Let me explain. Character Development inherently has your character change. (So does derailment, but that is a badly way to go.) Or what else would they be? Stone walls in the way of the river? You are a person, and so am I. We grow and learn over the months. Who we are, one second.. or one year later is not the same as who we are now.

When we are provoked into considering our characters deeper, we dig deeper into them, find facets we never knew they have. In there, can we have a great interest with our own creations. (Have you watched Pleasantville?)

edited 25th Apr '11 5:54:17 PM by QQQQQ

snowfoxofdeath Thou errant flap-dragon! from San Francisco Suburb Since: Apr, 2012
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#579: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:49:07 PM

I want to put William in a character thread when one starts during summer vacation.

Ah, here's to sleepless summer nights of refreshing the thread and thinking of coherent posts. I'm going to love this. Better than sleepless school nights of the same.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#580: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:49:54 PM

[up][up][up]Dude, if your character can't survive its original traits by going to a carnival, I think you might wanna go over your character designs.

edited 25th Apr '11 5:50:28 PM by MrAHR

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animemetalhead Runs on Awesomeness from Ashwood Landing, ME Since: Apr, 2010
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#581: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:50:24 PM

I think having a bit of OOC chatter is important, it helps us understand the rules each of us are bringing to the table, which becomes more and more important as the different 'verses start interacting.

Of course, I could just be making n00bish assumptions.

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snowfoxofdeath Thou errant flap-dragon! from San Francisco Suburb Since: Apr, 2012
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#582: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:51:17 PM

I'm pretty sure the point of these threads is to see how your character will react to certain things, and thus consider you to think more about their character and flesh them out a little more when you need to—

Well, I forgot my argument, it seems.

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OhSoIntoCats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#583: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:51:54 PM

[up][up] There's also the matter that the character is the villain and only around the viewpoint for maybe an hour. Total.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#584: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:52:02 PM

[up][up]Also learn how different people react to your characters who are not controlled by the same mind.

edited 25th Apr '11 5:52:17 PM by MrAHR

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#585: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:56:39 PM

Okay. I'll be creating a Discussion Thread for Character Carnival. The only problem is whatever to put it in Writer's Block or in the Roleplay Discussion sub-forum.

QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#586: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:57:05 PM

Put it in Writer's Block.

Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#587: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:57:07 PM

[up][up][up]*remembers one time when her Hero ended up fast-roping several stories down from a hotel window to threaten some fucker with a gun* :D

Don't mind me, folks, just carry on with your discussion.

edited 25th Apr '11 5:57:27 PM by Leradny

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#588: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:57:21 PM

Writer's block, otherwise...the roleplayers...will invade...

D:

tongue

You know what is an interesting exercise? When Cak and I talk online or over the phone, sometimes he'll ask if he can talk to X character. Then he'll just ask questions, and I have to answer them in character. I learned a couple of surprising things, that way.

edited 25th Apr '11 5:58:40 PM by MrAHR

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OhSoIntoCats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#589: Apr 25th 2011 at 5:59:05 PM

I shouldn't bother with the character threads anymore, my characterizations suck anyway, and there's really nothing I can do to improve them.

Y'all have fun.

Rebuild is now at 3k. This is disappointing.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#590: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:00:02 PM

Stop self deprecating. It makes me want to abuse ya. Only way to improve is practice. No one is gonna hate you for being bad at something, so long as you try. Why not just try your best, and learn as much as you can?

edited 25th Apr '11 6:00:41 PM by MrAHR

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animemetalhead Runs on Awesomeness from Ashwood Landing, ME Since: Apr, 2010
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#591: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:01:23 PM

[up][up][up]Reminds me of the Three Character Questions Thread. Kinda wish it hadn't died.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#592: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:02:07 PM

I always wanted to do that, but I had so many characters, I could never pick one.

Come to think of it, that seems to be a running problem for me.

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QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#593: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:03:53 PM

@QQQQQ: The reason why what you think is suppose to be happening isn't happening because you hadn't been really in a thread for awhile, letting newer people like Crystal Galatica and I run the show. Both of us are younger and less inexperienced than you. To get people to really write, you need to get an old regular to run the show.

However, I am content with what we have right now. All we have to do is to just put a little more effort into it, make the battle system more fluid, find a way to discourge ninjas, and enforce the latter. One of the reasons why some of us are lacking because of the fear of ninjas.

To admit something.. I myself have no more experience with Character Threads than you. I merely have an interest in pushing the boundaries — find out where we can ultimately journey to. Since you wish for me (or another 'experienced' fellow), I can only promise that I read through the Carnival's doings. I am busy studying until the end of the week, and I have my own serial to attend to.

I will, however, create a much more elaborate thread when it's close to summer vacation for everyone. Where in this situation, you need a high degree of cooperation with everyone else (Why I posted having significant content.). Guess where it is. Hint: It involves an iceberg.

edited 25th Apr '11 6:04:37 PM by QQQQQ

OhSoIntoCats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#594: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:04:35 PM

[up][up][up]I kind of think that when you've been at it for as long as I have, sometimes the most reasonable thing to do is to give up.

EldritchBlueRose The Puzzler from A Really Red Room Since: Apr, 2010
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#595: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:11:19 PM

QQQQQ I've been thinking the same for Discordant Harmony except maybe restricting the number of posts except the number of paragraphs. My thought is 3 - 5 posts per day per person, so hopefully we can get some long posts. This is 447 words, 4 of such posts would be 1788 which is about 121 words larger than the standard words per day for Na No Wri Mo.

Note that I'm still playing with the idea, and thus Discordant Harmony is my monster. So please don't hate him if he looks ugly as sin, because he might be more human than the rest of mankind. wink

@ QQQQQ: In Brunges?

@ AHR: You are awesome! grin

@ Leradny: Stop it, you're making me feel old! tongue

Has ADD, plays World of Tanks, thinks up crazy ideas like children making spaceships for Hitler. Occasionally writes them down.
animemetalhead Runs on Awesomeness from Ashwood Landing, ME Since: Apr, 2010
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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#597: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:12:35 PM

QQQQQ, I'm trying. I really, honestly am.

But Cyrus just isn't like Quon.

He doesn't think very much, he doesn't have a very rich inner life (like me; very little runs through my head most of the time), he's not introspective, and he cares little about his surroundings until they actually mater to him. He's a trained fighter who lives for the moment. He is not empathic, and like most teenagers, he doesn't really have any meaningful motivations driving his actions, aside from the fact that it's what he was trained to do. He doesn't really know what he's like, and it doesn't bother him at the moment.

One main priority that I have with characters is I have to learn how they behave on the job and in combat. The first thing that I figure out about a character is their occupation. I wasn't sure how Cyrus acted on the job or how to write him, even, so I figured that I should use the thread to develop him and my world's demons and ghosts.

Now, as I was typing this, I realized something about my narrations- I try to give a greater feel for the character not through extensive description of every thought running through their head- those are buried in the narrative -or even dialogue, but through how they describe the world around them and perceive other people.

Does that make sense?

And, yes, I am very afraid of being ninja'd, because there were times when my post-ninda'd edits were completely ignored.

edited 25th Apr '11 6:13:34 PM by CrystalGlacia

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OhSoIntoCats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#598: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:13:13 PM

[up][up][up] I would much prefer a restriction in post number than a minimum word/sentence/paragraph limit.

edited 25th Apr '11 6:13:38 PM by OhSoIntoCats

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#599: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:13:27 PM

[up][up]You seem pretty wordy and thoughty like me.

edited 25th Apr '11 6:13:40 PM by MrAHR

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BetsyandtheFiveAvengers Since: Feb, 2011
#600: Apr 25th 2011 at 6:17:38 PM

I don't understand: what is ninja'd?


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