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dotchan Mind-Altering Substance from Locked in the Warner Water Tower Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#1: Mar 25th 2011 at 2:02:05 PM

While potholing series in for trope examples, many tropers will use character names, memes, or quotes that an outsider might not be as familiar with.

For example, if I wanted to add Gary Oak as an example in The Rival (which I'm sure he already is, I just want to use it as a hypothetical example), I would personally do it this way:

  • Pokemon: Gary Motherfucking Oak. (Slight elaboration on why he fits the trope.)

But I've also seen it potholed this way:

Or, for Cool Car:

  • Back To The Future: A DeLorean that travels back in time. Can't get any cooler than that.

Versus:

Personally I think the series should always be potholed as is so someone reading through can CTRL+F for it without reading the whole page.

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#2: Mar 25th 2011 at 2:06:46 PM

By "the series should always be Pot Holed" I'm asuming you mean, the name of the series should be it's own separate Pot Hole and not hidden in a Pot Hole under a quote, correct?

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dotchan Mind-Altering Substance from Locked in the Warner Water Tower Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#4: Mar 25th 2011 at 2:47:45 PM

The work name should always be readable without needing to mouseover a pothole. Whether it's a wikiword direct link or a pothole (as when the work is commonly called something other than the page name) to the work name doesn't matter. It should never be hidden under a character name, a trope name, or a quote, line, or meme.

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dotchan Mind-Altering Substance from Locked in the Warner Water Tower Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#5: Mar 25th 2011 at 3:48:12 PM

Well, I've gone through the tropes on my watchlist and cleaned those up at least.

The rest of the Wiki...*shudders*

billybobfred Cosine! from renamed to wingedcatgirl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#6: Mar 25th 2011 at 5:39:08 PM

Yeah, it's listed in some official rule and/or guideline thingy that the name of the work should be written outright so it can be CTRL+F'd.

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#7: Mar 25th 2011 at 9:46:22 PM

Well, it's just one more button click to "view source" and CTRL+F that, right? (This is also how I find trope names on works pages when the trope is referenced under another trope rather than listed directly.)

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#8: Mar 25th 2011 at 10:05:18 PM

A reader of the wiki should not have to view the source code to find out what a work that's listed in the examples is. The work name should be clearly visible. Not hidden in a pothole to a character, a quote, or anything else. Clearly visible. Is that really so hard to understand.

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dotchan Mind-Altering Substance from Locked in the Warner Water Tower Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#9: Mar 27th 2011 at 6:30:12 AM

Should we trust the fixing of these tropes to Wiki Magic, or should we start a thing in Special Efforts?

edited 27th Mar '11 6:30:43 AM by dotchan

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#10: Mar 27th 2011 at 9:06:04 AM

I think if a page is infested with this, the Cleanup help needed thread should be a good pre-existing place to alert people.

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