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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#76: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:04:12 PM

Er, I dunno. Some of the complaining posts have kinda sounded like that, so I was directing it at complainers in general, I guess.

I don't get what the big deal is over this subforum.

juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#77: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:04:31 PM

mellon brings a fair point. I mean, we have the Trash Heap, the Jammies thread, the Random Thoughts thread. In fact, I think Central himself said a today that there were too many threads in that kind of style and that he sometimes wondered where to post things.

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Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
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#78: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:06:12 PM

Hey, did my thread get deleted?

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#79: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:06:36 PM

So? We have an entire forum already dedicated to serious discussion (OTC).

I really don't see what the addition of another subforum takes away from this one, or any of the others.

mellon: Please refer to my last post again. Like I said, I have no problem with this subforum's continued existence.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#80: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:06:43 PM

@Gelzo: It was redundant since we had this thread. So yes.

EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#81: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:07:33 PM

OTC isn't for serious discussion, so much as it is about shouting down the people on the other side of the argument.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#82: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:07:53 PM

Tell me, though, Spain.

What purpose does starting up a silly subforum serve? Besides encouraging wonderposting and stupid conversations.

To put it another way:

To Fast Eddie- Intelligent conversation is desirable. Wonderposting is undesirable.

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CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
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#83: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:07:54 PM

In fact, I think Central himself said a today that there were too many threads in that kind of style and that he sometimes wondered where to post things.
I think the difference here is that with a subforum, we would have more dedicated threads for various topics, instead of a bunch of "ITT: Talk about things" threads.

(Though YF somehow ended up with a bunch of random discussion threads, so...)

[up] Easy. It keeps it out of the places where it doesn't belong. Telling someone "take the shitposting over there" could potentially be more effective than telling them "don't shitpost ever".

edited 14th Mar '11 11:08:45 PM by CentralAvenue

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#84: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:08:04 PM

@Spain: Because a silliness-dedicated subfora would only be as lawful as its users, and OTC and YF at least tend to attract more law-abiding users.

A silliness subfora might attract immaturity the way IJBM attracted petty sniping.

Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#85: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:08:16 PM

How about we all get some sleep and discuss this tomorrow?

I think "high-quality silliness" could be argued for, but not at this hour.

edited 14th Mar '11 11:09:02 PM by Tangent128

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#86: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:08:24 PM

Yes, let's not start demonizing subforums. It's silly.

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#87: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:08:32 PM

I thought YF was already silly.

Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#88: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:08:55 PM

I second Tangent's notion. It's not like anything apocalyptically forum-changing is going to happen in the mean time anyway.

This will be here. Trash Heap will be here. Life goes on.

CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
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#90: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:09:47 PM

It's also worth keeping in mind that only Fast Eddie can create a new subforum. Since he made this one, it can be inferred that he sees no problem with it.

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juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#91: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:09:52 PM

All I'm saying is that by now, Yack Fest has practically become that counterpart you speak of.

And mellon ninja's me.

edited 14th Mar '11 11:11:36 PM by juancarlos11

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#92: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:10:14 PM

Yeah....sure. Fine.

But I'm coming back here tomorrow.

It's also worth keeping in mind that only Fast Eddie can create a new subforum. Since he made this one, it can be inferred that he sees no problem with it.

Let me say again; neither do I.

edited 14th Mar '11 11:10:54 PM by SpainSun

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Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#93: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:10:35 PM

OTC and the Totally Radical Thread have completely different atmospheres. The former is centred around debate and news, particularly that of a political or scientific nature. The Totally Radical Thread is generally cosier and more personal.

I honestly don't think that we can get much sillier than some of the threads which are in Yack Fest already, but it's not a place I visit frequently.

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Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
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#94: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:10:45 PM

It was redundant

I was hoping that this was the only reason.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#95: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:10:58 PM

Easy. It keeps it out of the places where it doesn't belong. Telling someone "take the shitposting over there" could potentially be more effective than telling them "don't shitpost ever".

Using IJBM as an example.

Did the presence of IJBM keep the complaints and sniping confined to the appropriate subforum?

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CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
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#96: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:11:48 PM

By and large, it did. It was merely that said complaining/sniping became too much for the mods to handle within IJBM. Which is a potential problem with the silliness forum as well, though we already have at least 3 people who said they'd be willing to moderate it so as not to overwhelm the mods.

Anyway, yeah, I'm picking this up again tomorrow.

edited 14th Mar '11 11:13:06 PM by CentralAvenue

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#97: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:12:27 PM

Cygan:

IJBM's problem was in its very concept. "Bitch here" will ultimately lead to fighting. It's a given. "Be weird here" does not automatically entail mass IQ drop.

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RocketDude Face Time from AZ, United States Since: May, 2009
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#98: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:12:52 PM

IJBM seemed to be the Appendix of the Forums: Was useful initially, but then got too overloaded with badness and threatened to burst.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#99: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:13:16 PM

Spain, did you see the part where I mentioned a silly subfora might attract immaturity the same way IJBM attracted petty rudeness?

SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#100: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:14:58 PM

Which is why I and two other people volunteered to moderate that board exclusively.

My above statement also still stands. "Silly Posts" —> "RAMPANT IDIOCY" does not follow.

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