Trope, trivia or useless?: Doom Doors

There isn't much of a trope here. It's not used to get a specific reaction out of an audience, or as a literary shorthand, or for any of the reasons tropes are used. It's just a public domain sound effect. You can't subvert it, or deconstruct it, or invert it (besides maybe playing the sound backwards). To me, the options are:

• Leave it as it is,
• Make it a trivia page along the lines of Hey Its That Guy,
• Expand the page to cover stock sound effects, or merge it if we already have a page like that. This could be done in addition to the 2nd option.

Your thoughts?

edited 11th Mar '11 8:39:55 PM by Redhead

We have Stock Sound Effects.

You don't have to be able to play with a trope for it to be a trope. Not all tropes can be played with in all ways. It's a subtrope of Stock Sound Effects.

But is this really a storytelling device, or just a coincidence? I really doubt the makers of Good Eats or Bratz were trying to reference Doom, even subconsciously.

edited 11th Mar '11 9:17:22 PM by Redhead

"This is the noise a door makes" sounds tropable enough to me. Stock Sound Effects are tropes. You might not think of them that way, but try thinking in terms of Radio, for example, and it'll make a lot more sense—the sound of a door needs to be recognizable so that the audience knows there's a door swinging open.

But what is the significance of this sound? This trope is about every time this particular sound is used in any context.

edited 11th Mar '11 11:01:53 PM by Redhead

No, this is this sound used in the context of a powered door. It's a trope because the sound informs us that a door has just opened under it's own power and not by someone else opening it.

Not only does the page say nothing of the sort, but it includes examples from Bratz, where it was used as a texture for a song, Babylon 5, which used it for a space battle, and Katamari Forever, which used it for a robot fainting.

edited 11th Mar '11 11:09:30 PM by Redhead

Then it has some bad examples. Sometimes tropes need to be cleaned up. It doesn't mean that a couple of bad examples make something not a trope. It's still got more than enough examples sans those three.

The way the article is written now makes them legitimate examples. There is not one single line in that page that says the trope can only apply to doors. It's about the sound effect itself, not what it's used in. Therefore, it needs either a rewrite, a merge or a cutting, because right now it's People Sit On Chairs. Don't get hung up on the name.

edited 11th Mar '11 11:21:17 PM by Redhead

The Doom Doors sound very probably comes from the Sound Ideas stock sound effects collection. In fact they may well come from this collection — which dates from the 60's / 70's. Lots of people use the library so it's quite possible you'll hear the effect in works prior to Doom — but that game is most associated with it, jus' because lots of people played it.

We've got Stock Scream with the spot-the-Wilhelm-Scream. I was hoping this page would be a bit of fun like that.

edited 12th Mar '11 3:08:02 AM by Camacan

The Amen break is similar.

Hmm, the problem I have with this title is I keep reading it as "Doom Doors" instead of "DOOM Doors". Plus, I've never played Doom in recent memory, I don't know what the particular sound even is, so the Trope Namer-ness of the Example Named Trope is lost on me.

edited 13th Mar '11 9:44:01 PM by Stratadrake