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Given current trends, it was probably the latter.

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Edited by JamieBGood on May 13th 2019 at 7:57:57 PM

Or its a regional thing, if a French person in France is to learn English they will likely learn British English more than say American English unless there have some outside influences.

What kind of accent did Picard's brother and his family have?

British, especially Rene who I would have said overblown but the actor was literally from London.

The kid who played Rene also played Picard in Rascals as well.

Was watching more TNG Season 1, and I got to "The Conspiracy." That scene at the end, you know the one. The one where Picard and Riker phaser that one guy's head off and the parasite bursts out of his chest, and then they phaser that too till there's nothing left but a smoldering half of a corpse. Like, that scene feels like it was taken out of an R rated move. And as far as I know it's the only time in all of Trek that has any gore in it. I literally cannot think of another instance in any series or movie that has any kind of gore whatsoever. The closest thing I can think of is when you see pink Pepto-Bismol blood floating in the air during the assassination in Undiscovered Country.

Nothing else approaches the level of the "Conspiracy" climax, but a number of movies and episodes do have some graphic injuries/mutations shown on camera, particularly almost anything involving the Vidiians.

Insurrection had the whole thing with the on-screen cosmetic surgery. And Admiral Corrupt having his face torn off.

I had forgotten about the scene in First Contact with the green stuff that dissolves flesh. I also forgot about the opening scene in Nemesis where the entire Romulan Senate dissolves due to Thalaron radiation. Which is also green.

Red shirts do the dying, green gas does the killing.

The first teaser for the upcoming Picard series has arrived:

Was talking with my brother. I asked him to describe the premise of Star Trek Voyager, a show he has never seen, but is tangentially aware of. He said that the captain of Voyager went into a nebula because she wanted coffee and ended up on the other side of the galaxy. See, a long time ago I explained to him this scene and he clearly thought it was from the first episode and the reason Voyager was trapped in the Delta Quadrant. When he asked for the actual reason Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant, I explained to him that a powerful alien called the Caretaker pulled them 70,000 light years in an instant. I could not however recall the reason why the Caretaker did this. When he asked what the Caretaker looked like, I told him that it was capable of appearing in many forms, but chose to appear to the crew of Voyager as a hillbilly with a banjo. He said his coffee thing made more sense.

I then spent five minutes trying to explain Kazon hair to him. I said it was like they had stegosaurus back-plates sticking out of their head in every direction. I'm still not sure I was able to accurately convey the mayhem that is Kazon hair.

Edited by WillKeaton on May 23rd 2019 at 8:14:46 AM

15 years ago from 2399... that is the destruction of Romulus. The unthinkable is possibly the Hobus Disaster itself, seeing the massive loss of life of a people he failed to evacuate?

They change him from being Ambassador to Vulcan to promoted to admiral in charge of actually evacuating Romulans?

I could massively get behind that.

Edited by Memers on May 23rd 2019 at 7:29:03 AM

I'm actually hoping this is a limited series and not intended for a new sub franchise, there is so much more they can push with the idea and I do like the look and feel so far, even though we don't have a whole lot to go by. Kirk was always sort of designed to be the best that Starfleet and the Federation had to offer, while Picard was more of an extraordinary individual regardless of what path he decided to take. Kirk even advised him not to accept promotion, and so the idea that Picard becomes disillusioned with Starfleet or the Federation for some massive failure is really an interesting path to take. And I could see why this would attract Patrick Stewart back to the role.

"Never let them promote you"-James T Kirk

This has been parroted a lot online, but I think it's worth noting actually have Picard go through with that is the sincerity in the deconstruction

Star Trek: Nemesis was set in 2379.

The super supernova event that destroyed Romulus was in 2387.

Star Trek Online is set in 2409.

Any idea when the Picard series is set?

2399.

If the trailer is talking about the Hobus disaster as '15 years ago' they might be changing the timeline of those events a bit.

If they are sticking with the timeline, Picard should be the Ambassador to Vulcan during the Hobus disaster so he would have already left Starfleet.

The STO Devs have said that CBS came to them with questions on their story and if they were ok with using something. But their community manager never went into specifics about it, I asked directly on that.

Edited by Memers on May 29th 2019 at 6:05:20 AM

If they're using Hobus, they might end up using something similar to what STO had it be. Probably not exactly the same thing (I doubt they'll use the Iconians), but a shockwave of some sort that propagates through subspace because of a catastrophically failed experiment could be an explanation that covers up the...bafflingly bad explanation it had in the 2009 movie.

(What is it with JJ Abrams and really bad physics for superweapons and disasters?)

You expect Mr. Mysteries-without-answers to do well with something solid like physics?

The man can't even answer questions he himself created.

I have a question, not about Trek, but about Earth Final Conflict, and I don't know where else to ask this. I know the premise is that some aliens have arrived on Earth, apparently to help mankind, but they have ulterior motives and the main characters are trying to find out their true intentions. However, I know that in the final season, Season 5, all the aliens the show was built around were gone and were replaced by a bunch of always chaotic evil monsters with no depth. What I want to know is, dies Season 4 wrap up all the story threads? Like, was Season 4 originally written as the final season, then it got renewed unexpectedly and the writers had to make a new alien race because all the plot points with the first ones were tied up?

E:FC pretty much revamped the whole storyline every season. It was a decent show, but try to keep your expectations regarding ongoing storytelling low.

Yeah. The show also had a really bad case of revolving door casting. There's exactly one credited actor who's in all five seasons, and he's basically a villain the whole time.

I have a soft spot for the show, but the whole show feels like the writers weren't able to plan anything at all and just made stuff up as they went. Like, the point at which the show was cancelled and then revived was at the end of season two. A huge part of the ambiguity of the bad guys and good guys seems to honestly be because the writers couldn't make up their minds for a lot of it.

Andromeda ran into a lot of the same problems because the guy who was actually running it with a long-term plan got forced out a season and a half in. And then the replacement guy proceeded to wrap up the backbone concept of the series as quickly as possible and then the show basically spends 3 seasons faffing around with no real development or momentum.

Edited by Zendervai on Jun 10th 2019 at 4:06:18 AM

So which is the chicken and which is the egg? Was the revolving door because the writing was inconsistent, or was the writing inconsistent because they couldn't count on anything? Like having access to the same actors, or not being canceled at any moment?

Tons of behind the scenes friction between the writers, executives, and syndication people. The writers wanted to make a big epic series, the executives at The New Net (Canadian channel that took the show over after CTV dumped it) wanted it to have season arcs but were mostly beholden to the American company that handled US syndication...which was really goddamn persnickety about absolutely everything.

At least, that's what I've heard. The really behind the scenes stuff doesn't have a ton of information, so take it with a grain of salt. It is known that it was a really awful working environment for most of the staff, and the show didn't actually have a defined showrunner. Majel Barret-Roddenberry was the de-facto one for the first couple of seasons, but then she started focusing on a different project (possibly Andromeda) and after that it just kind of muddled along.

The reason Andromeda fell off the rails is pretty well known though. Kevin Sorbo didn't like the way the show was being written and basically took over the show, stopping all character and real plot development dead.

Edited by Zendervai on Jun 16th 2019 at 7:53:21 AM

Goddammit, I missed Captain Picard Day again!

I have fond memories of Andromeda and Hercules. It's a shame Sorbo himself went off the rails.