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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Feb 27th 2019 at 12:07:32 PM

Yanno with the blood and Velvet's outfit and the tiddy flying about.

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Feb 27th 2019 at 1:07:04 PM

...random thought:

What do you think would have happened if Pharaoh had actually succeeded in killing Estelle?

I mean, I suppose that would have been the end of Alexei's plan (unless the idea that Zagi might have also been a child of the Full Moon was made canon), but I'm not sure what Yuri would have done after that.

It would have also spared Belius, who seems reasonable enough that maybe she would have explained things, even if she likely wouldn't have been happy about it (since Estelle isn't exactly evil and all).

Once again, wokka wokka!
FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
I was offered this world
Mar 1st 2019 at 2:02:05 AM

The plot would have stopped. *Bad Ending screen*

I mean, you need certain characters alive for the plot to progress, and as much as it pains us, some have to DIE for the plot to go on (hello, Aeris...)

But lets suppose it happens. Alexei would still have gone to Zaude, or at least the heroes would have caught up to him there, and they would have stumbled upon an underground city full of Children of Full Moon. Thanks to... Pattys's special gem. Hey, that means she is not plot useless! (that is if you consider postgame and sidequest content to be 'canon'...)

As an aside, a Zesty question: I know you can only fit 20 skills into your equips (5 pieces, 4 slots each for skills) so is it more useful to go for Group unions, Element unions or simple Stacks?

Is is preferable to have equips with strong stats but 'meh' skills, or dinky stats with OP skills?

Joke weapons 'can be fused with any other'. Does the order matter? Unnamed Sword + Iron Sword = Unnamed sword +1. Does it work the other way to get an Iron sword +1 or not?

Edited by FlightMaster on Mar 1st 2019 at 11:14:30 AM

Copying from one place is 'plagiarism'. Copying from several places, 'research'.
HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Mar 1st 2019 at 8:16:28 AM

But lets suppose it happens. Alexei would still have gone to Zaude, or at least the heroes would have caught up to him there, and they would have stumbled upon an underground city full of Children of Full Moon. Thanks to... Pattys's special gem. Hey, that means she is not plot useless! (that is if you consider postgame and sidequest content to be 'canon'...)

Wait! What? is that a thing?

Once again, wokka wokka!
asterism Pluto Loves You Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Pluto Loves You
Mar 1st 2019 at 10:18:06 AM

Yep

It's the entrance to the bonus dungeon, even (also the only place in the game where it's explained why Patty looks like a little girl)

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HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Mar 1st 2019 at 10:19:33 AM

Huh. I never heard about that.

Guess that's something to check out when I finally pick it up for Switch...if that ever happens that is.

Once again, wokka wokka!
FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
I was offered this world
Mar 8th 2019 at 7:41:13 AM

Apparently (?) Vesperia DE is gonna receive a 1.2 update that patches the bugs and those random-as-fuck freezes people was noticing. Yay! [tup]

I saw it being commented on Game FAQS. Really, the freezes happened in the weirdest places according to witnesses. Hope they are actually solved.

So hey. I was reading different topics and some of them looked fun. I think these are cool:

  • Most (in)famous example of Difficulty Spike? What did you personally do to surpass it? Whole series.
  • Examples of good / badly done romance? Do you like developers 'trying' or they better stay away from it in a shonen anime game? Again, whole Tales Series.

Edited by FlightMaster on Mar 8th 2019 at 4:44:17 PM

Copying from one place is 'plagiarism'. Copying from several places, 'research'.
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere
Planeswalker
Mar 8th 2019 at 9:32:16 AM

Worst difficulty spike: Of the games I played, I found Tales of Rebirth got much more difficult slightly after the halfway mark. Bosses develop counterattacks to smart strategies, monsters get harder to hit or just hit you a lot harder, and you lose the ability to just purchase/find strong gear and are supposed to upgrade your weapons (good luck when you don't speak Japanese and have no idea what they actually do).

Best (intentional) romance: Kyle and Reala, hands down. It feels organic and well-developed in a way I don't think most other Official Couples in Tales do. I personally feel like Tales in general is really bad at their intentional romances and usually succeed a lot better when they're not trying. Unfortunately it takes up most of the plot of Destiny 2 to make it work, I wish the game had been a tad longer so it could focus on the others more.

Edited by PhiSat on Mar 8th 2019 at 10:32:58 AM

Oissu!
MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 8th 2019 at 1:11:09 PM

Difficulty Spike, I can't really think of any unless you try to do Symphonia 2's job things as soon as since they require you to be higher levels than expected, its pretty bloody wankery.

As for romance I don't give a crap, mostly because most of the time it feels a bit...forced honestly. I mean I guess Stahn and Rutee since they actually had sex and a kid out of it unlike all the other romances which can get almost embarrassingly chaste and twee.

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
I was offered this world
Mar 9th 2019 at 3:41:32 AM

Well, when I said Difficulty Spike I should have phrased it as That One Boss. Then again we would get the usual mentions of fans' recurring nightmares such as pre-Tethealla Sylphs, Mt. Roneal's trio battle, fack*ng Kurt, fack*ng Gattuso and Milla-route Muzet. The old games were more 'consistently' hard, and bosses were just a part of it.

Hah, it reminds me of an example of That One Boss I surpassed recently. The infamous Battle Couple at the end of Valkyrie Profile 2 Chapter 4. Those fuckers are said to be harder than the Final Boss!

About romance... I guess my favorite is still Emil-Marta. They get to know each other better and argue like real people would! My runner up would be Shing-Kohak, even if she is basically emotionless for over half the game. Luke-Tear was very decent.

Bad couples: Cless-Mint are of the 'embarrasingly chaste' variety (it's Fujishima, so you know the drill) Asbel-Cheria doesnt' work (he is dense as a rock, she cannot spit it out) and Jude-Milla feels more like hero worshipping than love. Too... one sided.

Interesting opinion here. Whileas you can't deny Veigue is hopelessly in love with Claire, he is put to test when Agarte does her switch magic. Both were convinced that physical looks are irrelevant, but Veigue is anxious and desperate to 'restore' Claire whenever he looked at her face and went A CAT IS NOT FINE URGH. This sounds a bit hypocritical.

2nd interesting tibdit: Senel-Shirley. I dunno why, I really wanted these two together. Less cuz Senel being dumb almost causes the Great Flood of Hyrule and more like... I felt the same kind of 'hopelessly in love' in Shirley as in Veigue.

Edited by FlightMaster on Mar 9th 2019 at 12:44:10 PM

Copying from one place is 'plagiarism'. Copying from several places, 'research'.
MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 9th 2019 at 3:45:43 AM

Still, with Tales romances you're lucky if even one of them even says "I love you." I think only Tear ever managed that and come on, its Tear.

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
SkormSnow-Strider Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Mar 10th 2019 at 9:17:01 AM

Cless-Mint are of the 'embarrasingly chaste' variety

I think it more has to do that they're genuinely flat characters. All Cless has got is vengeance and puns, and Mint's THE White Magician Girl. That's it.

"Wanna see what crippling depression and years of child abuse looks like? Here it is in human form-it's your boy GUZMA!"
MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 11th 2019 at 4:58:12 AM

Like I said, the best romance is Stahn and Rutee because unlike most, the sequel to their game basically said "Yes they fucked."

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
asterism Pluto Loves You Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Pluto Loves You
Mar 11th 2019 at 5:19:16 AM

We know Asbel and Cheria fuck also because we meet their kid and/or descendant at the very end of the game

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 11th 2019 at 3:56:11 PM

I mean not that they ever say compared to Destiny 2 straight up saying. But yeah, fair enough.

Shame the Asbel/Cheria pair (AKA Barnes And Noble, the superior shipname) is basically a huge case of go-nowhere ingame. Shit there's more chemistry between Asbel and Pascal for christsake.

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Sailing the Skies!
Mar 11th 2019 at 6:07:00 PM

Oh my god Barnes and Noble that's actually great. But yeah, they're pretty stagnant pairing wise throughout the game. Tbh I'd say they're the weakest members of the Graces cast. Not terrible, but only so-so compared to everyone else.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
SapphireBlue from California Relationship Status: In another castle
Mar 11th 2019 at 7:36:56 PM

Iím replaying Graces right now, and yeah, theyíre not as interesting as the rest of the cast. Doesnít stop them from bouncing off everyone else in skits, though. Or everyone else bouncing off them.

Heard the Barnes and Noble joke before, and itís brilliant.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Mar 11th 2019 at 7:38:16 AM

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 12th 2019 at 2:25:21 AM

I mean to be fair you'd still look bland as oatmeal next to Pascal so

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
asterism Pluto Loves You Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Pluto Loves You
Mar 12th 2019 at 3:04:25 AM

Cheria may be bland as tapioca but I really love her playstyle. Knife-throwing spellcasting healer maid.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 12th 2019 at 5:53:42 AM

At least Cheria's buxom in her own right though. And she's Laura Bailey, that's always pretty neat

Its just Pascal's so much more entertaining its ridiculous

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
I was offered this world
Mar 12th 2019 at 6:04:10 AM

Alright, seeing their descendants is proof of couples 'having fucked'. That does not mean their relationship was well done. Both Asbel-Cheria and Stahn-Rutee are duos no one would bet a penny for during their journey. Well, I wouldn't want to trigger Kombat, but there is a crucial difference: The former couple announcing their marriage was surely met with a collective 'fucking finally' while the latter probably caused cries of 'WHAAAAT? But-but they couldn't stand each other...!'. Rutee was much less agressive during the second half of Destiny, but Stahn never gave players an impression of 'man, I would tap that ass' when interacting with her.

I mean, if we go by canon sequels we know that Sheena fucked too... because Suzu bears the Fujibayashi name. Now, guessing who was the lucky guy in this case is interesting... Lloyd? Zelos? REGAL? (Eeer, they spend a lot of time together in the sequel...) And yes, we know Arche and Raine fucked (I mean with their boyfriends! Geez!) because of the Unicorn being a living virginity detector.

Man, why did this devolve into discussing who is a virgin and who isn't? wild mass guess

Edited by FlightMaster on Mar 12th 2019 at 2:06:29 PM

Copying from one place is 'plagiarism'. Copying from several places, 'research'.
MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 12th 2019 at 6:18:27 AM

Because with how this series does romance we kinda have to.

Its kinda refreshing that Berseria lacks that kinda thing. Sort of. The closest we have is Oscar and Theresa and that's basically incest.

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?
Mar 12th 2019 at 6:56:06 AM

.*is a sucker for Tsunderes and oblivious idiots*

At least the F arc gives them massive amounts of progress compared to 99.9999% of the couples.

asterism Pluto Loves You Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Pluto Loves You
Mar 12th 2019 at 7:27:04 AM

Raine may have been lying to avoid going in the water

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
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Mar 12th 2019 at 7:38:17 AM

There is that, yeah. Raine's younger than she seems and I don't think she's had relationships of that sort since she had to make time not just for being a teacher but looking after Genis.

What DOES it mean for a guy to be "cash money" anyway?

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