Extra Credits

this is what we are talking about

How very Freudian.

Let me tell you, I took psychology class. One thing that was stretched was the Freud, while interesting to read about, has no real world basis. It was an excercise of philosophy and applying literary symbolism where it didn't belong.

This is actually mentioned in the trope page.

as I said, when you think that the portals themselves are giant glowing vaginae, you are probbably on the wrong path.

I saw their latest. They missed three very important things. 1. That's the dating game genre. There's a reason people only creepy perverts like it. 2. A program that could intelligently counteract human speech is still impossible, thats why we have the turing test. While AI in a combat situation can be simplistic, using the varety of abilites it has to counteract what it knows you can do, when you open up language there are suddenly infinite ways it may have to respond. 3. If its about finding and using different speeches in different situations, not only does that just make it feel cheap to thew player whop wants to respond a different way, as well as simply replacing a sword with a line of dialogue, you've replicated the part of Monkey Island where you had to go searching for the pirate who actually knew the counterinsult to yours, and waiting for him to finally say it. Ya know, the worst part of that game.

Also for all their praise of echo bazaar, winning a debate is a simple dice roll which is cheap. Plenty of games have persuade bars (didn't Morrowind from what I've heard?). Leisure Suit Larry had a minigame for dialogue but I suppose that's not high brow enough, but I guess that was what you were saying Indigo.

And finally...Fallout New Vegas is better than Fallout 3 in every aspect don't lump it in with BlOps

edited 16th Jan '11 6:38:20 PM by ShadowScythe

Not sure about Morrowind but Oblivion did have this little game when you had to use a certain number of dialogue choices (persuade, coerce,flirt etc.) with a corresponding level bar for each. You wanted to get the optimal stacking of bars to get them in your favour.

Didn't really do much though. "Ooh look the animated face is smiling".

Damn, they choose the worst examples for their videos.

^ I blame Small Reference Pools, having only a week, and having to deal with real life.

New Vegas is better in every way, including in destroying my Ps3.

^^ Can you really call it small reference pools? I mean they have brought up Missile Command and Echo Bazaar, they aren't that well known right (I mean, I only knew missile command cause of that Chuck Episode)

^Guess you should hurry up and join the Glorious PC Master Race.

I'd call it more "games they think of because they played them recently" than Small Reference Pools.

^^ I meant it like how Deboss satated it, like with their limited time they go with whatever they know.

^^^ I didn't know master races died out.

Also, if you're trying to sell me on a PC, reliability is probably not the area you should bring up.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2653-Piracy

Piracy

It would go over better if he wasn't on a site where people genuinely thought anyone who doesn't treat PC gamers like gods deserves not only to not make a profit, but to go bankrupt the minute they have the idea for a game.

Also, one line in particular stood out to me

"Its rare the industry produces more than one truly top tier game a month"

Welcome to 2011 buddy.

I'm just glad he was able to deliver his message to piraters without volleying insults at them, aka, The David Wong Approach. They might be more inclined to listen that way.

edited 20th Jan '11 6:07:01 PM by DonZabu

I want to show this to Ukonkivi but I get the feeling s/he would go on some long tangent and feel "attacked".

edited 23rd Jan '11 12:20:31 PM by MousaThe14

When someone in the industry talks about piracy it's usually "ZOMG YOU ARE THIEFS DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY!!!" When someone outside the industry talks about piracy it's usually "ZOMG YOUR DRM SUCKS AND YOUR GAME SUCKS SO I'M NOT PAYING FOR IT THHHBBTTTT"

That Daniel avoids both stereotypes is part of what makes Extra Credits so refreshing. He can give James' side with fairness and honesty, while still criticizing the more bone-headed decisions of his industry. Likewise, he also knows where we, the gaming community comes from, and acknowledges our grievances while giving us a much-needed Stop Being Stereotypical slap in the face.

This show is by far the best video game commentary on the web.

Is there another non-retarded one?

Maybe some of Angry Joes stuff, but he has a tendency to be a little short sighted.

edited 21st Jan '11 1:50:21 AM by IndigoDingo

I find this show pretty boring because everything he says is either something I already believe or arrived at using a different pool of examples than I arrived at my own conclusions from. I never feel like I'm learning anything, and it's not that funny either.

Never looked at this show until just today. Watched a few episodes, and found it quite interesting. The piracy one was particularly good. Handled the issue much better than 90% of the other people out there.

Storytelling cliches.

To be fair to game writers, writers in other mediums use Amnesia all the time. Remember the line from Futurama "Let me get this straight. Does anyone here not have amnesia?"

Also, I'm suprised he didn't bring up Red Dead Redemption, as I think thats a fucking excellent use of In Media Res.

Link please?

Dare I ask where else it would be besides the Escapist, Rhyme beat?

It isn't streaming properly. Any idea on how to fix that?

I'm having the same problem as Rhyme Beat.

edited 27th Jan '11 5:26:39 PM by PippingFool