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DeathNoteFan Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Dec 15th 2010 at 9:01:14 PM

For the latter, I'm talking about the series, Gankutsuou. If these two have similarities, they are Anti-Hero, Byronic Hero, and Magnificent Bastard.

Who do you think will win?

Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Dec 15th 2010 at 9:39:14 PM

Wow, Lelouch has fought almost everyone now, hasn't he....

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#4: Dec 15th 2010 at 9:45:32 PM

Aw man, it's a serious thread? Really? I thought someone was making fun of all these threads that keep popping up. Look, just make a Lelouch vs. Everyone Ever thread and be done with it.

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Dec 16th 2010 at 4:50:58 AM

... Lelouch wins. By a looong shot. They're not in the same league. The Count just has a petty vengeance against a domestic few. The Lelouch man has managed to TAKE OVER THE WORLD! OF COURSE!

And I'm still not sure what Byronic Hero means.

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Drakyndra Her with the hat from Somewhere Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Dec 16th 2010 at 5:14:53 AM

Byronic Hero = A "hero" that is hugely flawed, and generally also against societies norms and morally dubious.

As for the versus thing: Well, Lelouch ultimately achieved more, but he also fucked up a lot more. The Count only wanted "petty revenge", but he achieved it flawlessly, without a single mistake. It comes down to Lelouch having divided priorities (Revenge vs Better world for Nunnally), and the Count only having one.

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#7: Dec 16th 2010 at 7:03:50 AM

I'd have to say the Count, if it was solely a one on one Xanatos Speed Chess match. Count definitely has the upper hand, what with the politic allies, funds, resources and magical space demon.

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Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Dec 16th 2010 at 7:06:57 AM

Are we counting the anime incarnation of the count? because if so, he would win pretty easily.

I still hate this topic.

edited 16th Dec '10 7:07:35 AM by Noimporta

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#9: Dec 16th 2010 at 7:08:23 AM

Agreed, but it's a way to pass the time inbetween waking up and playing Prototype.

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#11: Oct 22nd 2011 at 10:48:25 PM

Count of Montecristo: Become famous first, get revange later.

Lelouch: A Lready famous, become anonimous, get revenge, become famous, get revenge, have yourself killed, get moral revenge.

I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.
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#12: Oct 23rd 2011 at 3:26:06 AM

The defense for Lelouch falls apart when you factor in he's a complete idiot who gets thousands of people killed to derail his own goals and justifies himself with a solution that would never work in any sociologically realistic world.

aw, crap. I feel the rage boiling. I'm gonna go read Nightmare of Nunnally again so I can remember the time Code Geass was actually handled well.

edited 23rd Oct '11 3:27:37 AM by Dragonzordasaurus

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#13: Oct 23rd 2011 at 6:07:33 AM

[up]It's funny how I can actually agree with your first sentence, yet find the idea of Nightmare of Nunnally being considered "Code Geass done well" utterly laughable.

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#14: Oct 23rd 2011 at 9:35:22 AM

Well it has consistent character growth and a more responsible ending, in the very least, which already makes it a masterpiece compared to R2.

Nightmare of Nunnally is the My HiME EXA of Code Geass.

edited 23rd Oct '11 9:37:35 AM by Dragonzordasaurus

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