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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Dec 8th 2010 at 12:19:23 PM

I checked it out a couple days ago, and the index was gone, while a message said that autoindexing works. But where's the index? Is it a temporary glitch?

Thorslund Since: May, 2009
#2: Dec 8th 2010 at 12:45:37 PM

Fast Eddie removed it for some reason.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Dec 8th 2010 at 12:50:01 PM

The thing is, the main page for Troper Tales still mentions an index for them, indicating that one should be there. If he wanted to remove Troper Tales, why not remove the main page for it as well?

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Dec 8th 2010 at 1:00:05 PM

Didn't get round to it I guess.

The list was probably getting too long. This, Quotes Wiki and Laconic Wiki has thousands upon thousands of entries. Nobody is using a list that size, while a list that size is probably crashing the page.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#5: Dec 8th 2010 at 1:30:50 PM

^What he said. If you come across some text referring to the Troper Tales page as an index, just zap it.

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edited 8th Dec '10 1:31:28 PM by FastEddie

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#6: Dec 8th 2010 at 1:37:24 PM

[up] Could you or another mod remove the bit at the bottom of the page about Auto-Indexing then? It's just confusing as it is, but the pages are locked so I can't.

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#7: Dec 8th 2010 at 1:58:35 PM

why was the index removed, and is there anywhere I can find an index if I want to look it up?

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#8: Dec 8th 2010 at 1:59:15 PM

Just read a few posts back.

Those edits were made.

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#9: Dec 8th 2010 at 2:14:28 PM

The Quotes Wiki and the Laconic Wiki still have their mentions of being auto-indexed with no list.

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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#10: Dec 8th 2010 at 2:42:47 PM

So the massive size of the index is the reason the index was removed? That makes sense.

How about making sub-indexes for Troper Tales of certain types?

CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
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#11: Dec 8th 2010 at 3:37:56 PM

Also, the Laconic Wiki page links to a now-deleted forum thread. Might wanna zap that if you're editing the page.

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YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#12: Dec 8th 2010 at 7:03:50 PM

Say, since the auto-indexing thing already sorts pages alphabetically, would it be possible to code it to split the list into parts based on the first letter of the pages indexed? I'd imagine it wouldn't be of the highest priority, but is it feasible? It'd sure be a lot easier to navigate than going through it page by page....

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#13: Dec 9th 2010 at 7:52:35 AM

The list was deleted because it was too long? That's not a reason!

Why not just get rid of the multiple entries on the list? There was about 10 pages of Heartwarming Moments listed while Crowning Moment of Heartwarming was still sorted under "C". Some tropes that have an apostrophe in their title were listed again without the apostrophe.

Also since the whole list was done alphabetically, why not sort each letter into a folder? That way you don't have to scroll down half the page to find the one your looking for.

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Thorslund Since: May, 2009
#14: Dec 9th 2010 at 9:05:03 AM

It is a good reason if the size of the article was causing the page to crash. Foldering it up wouldn't solve the problem.

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Dec 9th 2010 at 9:10:44 AM

I recall when Index-Index was taken down, tropers started to use this other list where the indices were on different pages, one for each alphabet+namespace. I can't remember where it is but it's maybe an appropriate format. However that would still need to be actively implemented and we have priorities. We actually used that list to help fix mis-namespacing problems. We're still not going to actually use the page index for the troper tales pages.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#16: Dec 9th 2010 at 2:45:03 PM

This sort of indexing does make things hard for those of us who, for whatever reason, are trying to go through as many entries as we can in alphabetical order. (It's a more fun way of killing time than reading the dictionary, at least.) Right now I'm trying to go through Quotes Wiki. Boring Failure Hero is broken, but it's still on the index, so I can't go from Boring, but Practical to whatever comes next. There are bound to be other breakages in the future.

edited 9th Dec '10 2:45:48 PM by feotakahari

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#17: Dec 9th 2010 at 6:03:16 PM

now that the index has been deleted, is there any alternate ways of finding a list of all or most of troper tales?

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HistoryMaker Since: Oct, 2010
#18: Dec 10th 2010 at 6:37:55 PM

PLEASE FIX IT WE LIKE THE INDEX sad

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#19: Dec 11th 2010 at 11:44:14 AM

Yes please, or I'll start an IBBM thread! evil grin

YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#20: Dec 11th 2010 at 2:49:54 PM

I'd like it if the index could be returned to something similar to its original form as well. I don't think anyone's given a reason why it couldn't be split into multiple pages by the first letter of the page names, similar to what's been done to the other oversized indices/pages.

NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Dec 11th 2010 at 5:56:05 PM

Yes, please restore the index, even if we need to make A-M, N-Z or whatever.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#22: Dec 12th 2010 at 3:07:58 AM

Those indexes are back.

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#23: Dec 12th 2010 at 8:07:56 AM

[*looks*] Meh, close enough. Although it might be more convinant to have two or three alphabetized indexes, because the current list looks a little bit messy.

YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#24: Dec 12th 2010 at 8:10:02 AM

Well that'll work. Thanks!

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