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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#3026: Mar 26th 2021 at 3:03:36 PM

and striking his famous bargain with Shelob

Let's hope she stays a spider this time. tongue

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#3028: Mar 28th 2021 at 9:10:41 AM

they clearly played Undertale when they decided to make Shelob 'sexy'

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#3029: Mar 28th 2021 at 5:14:39 PM

Trying not to veer off-topic here, but it looks like the Tolkienverse is getting a new publisher after almost 70 years: Houghton Mifflin is planning to sell its consumer publishing business to HarperCollins.

Why is this significant? HarperCollins is owned by News Corp.

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#3030: Mar 28th 2021 at 5:19:10 PM

Ohhh, ewww, that could be baaaad.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#3031: Mar 28th 2021 at 5:35:08 PM

If I were the Tolkien estate I'd check my publishing contract to see if there's an "out" clause.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#3032: Mar 28th 2021 at 8:02:20 PM

Why is that bad?

Optimism is a duty.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#3033: Mar 28th 2021 at 8:09:01 PM

Yeah, this could be bad. At the very least, I'm not happy about Rupert Murdoch getting a single cent from the LOTR books.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#3034: Mar 28th 2021 at 11:38:06 PM

@ Ultimatum: Muffet is only sexy if you add "Rule 34"

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#3035: Mar 29th 2021 at 12:33:39 AM

Rubert is pretty much saruman in human form.

"He's also about 3'6" and mostly naked, and he can never actually get said magical artifact of doom. Change your mind any?"

You are just making the pitch much better.

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#3036: Mar 29th 2021 at 4:08:47 AM

It's now official; HarperCollins will be the new publisher for Middle-earth literature in the States.

In other words, Sauron won.

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#3037: Mar 29th 2021 at 4:09:45 AM

Tolkien is rolling in his grave.

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#3038: Mar 29th 2021 at 4:11:32 AM

So now an asshole who embodies so much of what Tolkien hated is going to make money off of Tolkien's work.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#3039: Mar 29th 2021 at 5:52:38 AM

That sure is terrible, but it's not going to stop me from buying or reading Tolkien.

Optimism is a duty.
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#3040: Mar 29th 2021 at 5:53:35 AM

Considering that I already have all of the copies of his books that I need, and he's not exactly writing a ton more material from beyond the grave, I think it's safe to say that this development won't concern me all that much.

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#3041: Mar 29th 2021 at 6:00:14 AM

But even if you didn't, would you really rather not buy the books now?

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#3043: Mar 29th 2021 at 6:18:37 AM

Agreed, I think who publishes a book is a level beyond what most people will care about. And I don't think caring about it too much would be all that desirable either. You can't be aware of all the money streams from every purchase you make.

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#3044: Mar 29th 2021 at 6:39:58 AM

Still, the thought of Murdoch making even a cent off these books, be it through sales or licensing, is sickening to many, considering how he's influenced political turmoil everywhere.

Edited by Mario1995 on Mar 29th 2021 at 9:41:22 AM

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#3045: Mar 29th 2021 at 6:48:13 AM

Look as long he can't write new lord of the rings books and defile Tolkien's legacy its a non issue,it's a business development and nothing more

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#3046: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:00:28 PM

If I only read books from publishers I agreed with politically on every issue I would probably have very little to read.

"Oh no, Rupert Murdoch has cooties! Sauron won! Tolkien is rolling in his grave!" Come on. Grow up a little, people. Tolkien's words remain his, no matter who is publishing them.

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#3047: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:06:24 PM

The concern is [up][up]. No-one's saying that Rupert Murdock is going to defile Lord of the Rings simply by being connected to it, it's that he will influence future Middle Earth media to be conservative garbage.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Mar 29th 2021 at 1:06:47 AM

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#3048: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:33:00 PM

[up][up]wanna check your hair for lice now? I hear they like straw

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#3049: Mar 29th 2021 at 3:10:14 PM

[up][up] How? The publisher and the copyright holder are two very different things, by my understanding. Nor would anyone who published Tolkien-derived books (if that were permitted) be obligated to publish with Harper-Collins.

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#3050: Mar 29th 2021 at 3:21:43 PM

I'm just uncomfortable with Rupert Murdoch having any amount of power and influence, at all, over Lord of the Rings.


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