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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#1: Dec 7th 2010 at 3:15:42 AM

And the Joker is in the bag.

INT is knowing a tomato is a fruit. WIS is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. CHA is convincing people that it does.
Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#2: Dec 7th 2010 at 3:28:02 AM

That guarantees a few more months of this media circus.

Or they might agree to extradite him this week in which case you know it's purely political.

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#3: Dec 7th 2010 at 3:29:50 AM

I think he's thinking Just as planned...

INT is knowing a tomato is a fruit. WIS is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. CHA is convincing people that it does.
Yej See ALL the stars! from <0,1i> Since: Mar, 2010
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#4: Dec 7th 2010 at 3:54:22 AM

He is. He's mentioned before that he has had his finger on several Dead Man Switches.

edited 7th Dec '10 3:54:43 AM by Yej

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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#5: Dec 7th 2010 at 5:18:10 AM

Didn't he hint that many of them related to major banks, involving the events that led to the recession?

*grabs the popcorn*

edited 7th Dec '10 5:18:57 AM by RadicalTaoist

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#6: Dec 7th 2010 at 5:34:16 AM

/also grabs popcorn

After he made that threat they kinda HAD to arrest him. Otherwise he gets away with "YOU CAN'T ARREST ME I'LL BLACKMAIL EVERYONE" and that sets a pretty bad precedent. So yeah, what Kinkajou said. "Just as planned."

edited 7th Dec '10 5:38:52 AM by Bur

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Sandor from London/Cambridge Since: Oct, 2009
#7: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:01:46 AM

As much as one can critique the danger of releasing diplomatic and military cables, the thought of him uncovering the corruption and incompetence of the major bankers is too delicious to ignore. The mere thought of them being held accountable, their dirty laundry laid bare in exquisite detail is giving me an almost sexual amount of pleasure.

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#8: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:03:57 AM

If he's telling the truth about the banks (which I doubt) I can say that I would be very happy to hear it too.

EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#9: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:27:32 AM

I want to see what dirt he has on the banks.

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#10: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:28:34 AM

Given his track record, I doubt it's something we don't know yet.

INT is knowing a tomato is a fruit. WIS is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. CHA is convincing people that it does.
Lessinath from In the wilderness. Since: Nov, 2010
#11: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:31:52 AM

I agree. I want to see what the banks were doing.

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Sandor from London/Cambridge Since: Oct, 2009
#12: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:49:03 AM

Getting dirt on banks would be several orders of magnitude easier then security services/military information of the same level. The latter are very good at practicing proper protocol, and keeping things under wraps. As demonstrated by the fact that nothing major has been released so far. On top of that if you release code word level material you will be caught, and the punishments are beyond severe.

Guessing this isn't the case with banks.

"When you cut your finger, I do not bleed." Response of a man who lived on the outskirts of a concentration camp.
AJesterOnly Since: Jan, 2010
#13: Dec 7th 2010 at 6:57:30 AM

This was the one news story that made me sit up and turn up the radio when I was listening to NPR on my way to work this morning...

Holy shit, I thought, I can't wait to hear all the blackmail Assange is holding back...

I'm keeping posted here for any new details. NPR was sorrowfully sparse in their announcement. Mostly just speculation on him getting extradited to the USA.

americanbadass Banned from [CENSORED] Since: Mar, 2010
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#14: Dec 7th 2010 at 8:01:00 AM

I think s it's less blackmail and more an excuse. This information would have released either way, but now there are just people waiting and a media circus waiting for it too. Just as planned.

edited 7th Dec '10 8:01:19 AM by americanbadass

[[User Banned]]_ My Pm box ix still open though, I think?
BalloonFleet MASTER-DEBATER from Chicago, IL, USA Since: Jun, 2010
MASTER-DEBATER
#15: Dec 7th 2010 at 8:09:50 AM

Julian Assange may have been V&, but the group will NOT release the emergency files

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/07/wikileaks-plans-release-insurance-file/

EDIT: Just as keikaku. TL note: Keikaku = plan.

edited 7th Dec '10 8:13:16 AM by BalloonFleet

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AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#16: Dec 7th 2010 at 8:21:25 AM

...one wonders why they needed the blackmail thoughts in the first place.

Pentadragon The Blank from Alternia Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Dec 7th 2010 at 8:35:20 AM

The 1.5-gigabyte file, which has been distributed to tens of thousands of fellow hackers and open-government campaigners around the world, is encrypted with a 256-digit key, The Sunday Times reported. Experts interviewed by the paper said that even powerful military computers can't crack the encryption without the key.

Contained inside that file — named insurance.aes256 — are believed to be all of the documents that Wiki Leaks has received to date, including unpublished papers on the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and papers belonging to BP and the Bank of America. Assange has previously suggested that the documents are unredacted, meaning they contain names that normally would be removed before publication to protect the lives of soldiers, spies and sources.

Well this is certainly interesting. Looks like the Grand Finale for this might be just around the corner.

If nothing else, they won't disappoint.

edited 7th Dec '10 8:37:07 AM by Pentadragon

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#18: Dec 7th 2010 at 10:24:01 AM

Huh, 256 digits is less than I expected. Without specifics, though...

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Yej See ALL the stars! from <0,1i> Since: Mar, 2010
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#19: Dec 7th 2010 at 10:47:55 AM

Well, you only need 128 to make it unbreakable against all the computing power on Earth.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
Yej See ALL the stars! from <0,1i> Since: Mar, 2010
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#21: Dec 7th 2010 at 10:51:40 AM

Unless the NSA have quantum computing, they're somewhat stuffed. tongue

edited 7th Dec '10 10:52:13 AM by Yej

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#22: Dec 7th 2010 at 10:52:19 AM

At 256, even quantum computing is insufficient.

AJesterOnly Since: Jan, 2010
#23: Dec 7th 2010 at 11:24:57 AM

@Yej

I'm not much of a maths geek — could you euclidate that formula for me?

Yej See ALL the stars! from <0,1i> Since: Mar, 2010
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#24: Dec 7th 2010 at 11:31:24 AM

In a 128-bit encryption scheme, there are 2^128 keys possible for any given message. What that links shows is the amount of time it would take to go through every single one of those keys in sequence, assuming that you had 150 billion processors, each capable of trying 5 billion keys per second. Since this comes out to be approximately the age of the universe, even the NSA doesn't have the resources to crack it.

But Wiki Leaks file's key isn't 128 bits long. It's 256 bits long, which doesn't, as you would think, double the amounts of keys possible. It squares the amount of keys possible, making it take an unimaginably long amount of time to crack, even if you converted the entire universe into computers.

(And there are some encryption schemes that use 512 bit long keys)

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#25: Dec 7th 2010 at 11:37:28 AM

Let's see, 256 bit key bumps it up to... 3.57 x 1058 times the age of the universe. That may just be the largest timespan I've ever heard of. ._.

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