Code Geass

Since the second season of Code Geass has debuted in Japan, anyone have any thoughts/love/criticism on the first?

I wish I could, but I haven't seen it. If anyone could tell me where to download a fansub from, it would be greatly appreciated.

search for it at [www.torrentz.com]. They search a bunch of torrent sites.

My first impression of the new season is that it's back to its usual ridiculous self. Case in point: Kallen keeping the key to her mecha in her cleavage. I actually had to pause the video so I could laugh for a few moments after that. I've not gotten around to watching 2 and 3 yet, but it looks like it'll be a trainwreck in a good way like the first one.

Having never seen the series, I look forward to seeing it this Saturday on Adult Swim.

I've watched several episodes of both seasons and really like it. It's interesting to compare it to Death Note given the somewhat similar protagonists, although Lelouch is definitely a much nicer person than Light

Saw the first episode a few minutes ago. Man those British fellows are jerks! Also, it was full of Hey Its That Voice for me.

As for the plot, I am sorta confused at this point. Hopefully, a Second Episode Morning will slow down the expospeak and outline what's going on more clearly.

Jordan wrote:

That, and Light vs. L is different from Lelouch vs. Suzaku for me. On the surface they seem similar, but I find the characterization for Suzaku alters it fundamentally.

I watched the infamous genocide incident and I still think Lelouch comes across better- mostly because I think his goals are objectively better and he definitely sees other people as individuals rather than pawns to a much greater extent than Light. For instance, Lelouch generally seems to avoid harming civilians whereas Light would kill a shoplifter if he knew that their death would help him taunt the police (and of course, it's never considered that anyone he kills might be innocent). It also seems important that while Light wants to become "The God of a New World", Lelouch admitedly probably wants to be Emperor of Britannia, but isn't primarily motivated by a desire to gain power for himself. On that not, I kind of have a different impression about when they masquarade as the Ordinary High School student. While for both of them this is a facade, my impression is that Lelouch is much more sincere in his friendships than Light ever was.

Jordan wrote:

I like Code Geass. The art is nice - especially CLAMP's character designs -, I dig the Real Robot mechas, the combat looks nice and has suspense, and Lelouch's plots can be pretty magnificent. Plus, I really dig the characters. Yes, both Le Douche and Spinzaku. They make such great foils for each other.

Random things I love about Geass: Lloyd The rampant Ho Yay between Suzaku and Gino Lulu's role as the student council's comic relief Arthur Mecha with chainsaw katanas

Been watching it on Adult Swim's online site.

Episode 3 does explain why Lelouch does what he does, and damn if he doesn't pull off being a MagnificentBastard in these episodes.

I look forward to episode 3 tomorrow. The series looks promising.

Edit: With every new character introduced, I get another instance of "Hey It's That Voice".

Jordan wrote:

I second every word of it. I, too, watched Death Note after Code Geass and I couldn't help despising Light ever since he killed Penber and his fiancée. I do not deny that he is much cooler than Lulu but he's just too cold, too calculating. He never thinks about the rightfulness of his actions, never empathizes with people whose relatives and friends he kills, never feels guilty about making mistakes. Yes, it may be badass but taking all the blows and continuing on like Lelouch does is much more badass and admirable IMO. Plus, for all my respect of Light, he is a coward. Would he have the balls to stand straight while facing a gun like Lulu did many times over? I don't think so.

Though I must also say that Lulu also has enormous trouble trusting people. He keeps taking all the responsibility upon himself and I'm afraid, one day it may crush him. It almost did in episode 7 of R2.

zephid wrote:

Well, that was a bit of an ass pull on the writers' side... but it was still partly Lulu's fault but not the one he has to take direct responsibility for. Not even a genius like him could foresee Geass going out of control at that precise moment. So he is only guilty of accepting Geass in the first place, but hadn't he done so, he'd himself be dead long ago. It is basically the same guilt that everyone who lives on carries towards those who died. That he still apparently blames himself for what's happened only adds to his charisma, in my eyes.

Donomni wrote:

Lulu is effectively trope incarnate of Magnificent Bastard. ^^

Koveras wrote:

Um, I wouldn't say he doesn't trust people. I mean look at the new episode. He sure was easily swayed by Orange-kun within a matter of a minute. This is the same guy that willing mass murdered a lot of Japanese with sadistic glee in the first episode. Yet Lulu is like, 'wow, okay, you can join my side than.'

I think it may be just to please the fans, though Shirley's death A MINUTE later is somewhat contradictory.

All in all, I really Code Geass. It is entertaining and extremely badass, and even though it has the misfortune of random stuff coming out of nowhere, it is a great anime.

So, I was really bummed by last week's episode. I think it might have largely been annoyance since they used almost the exact same setup what, two or three episodes ago? Lelouch tries to catch Cornelia, blows up people who are supposed to be on his own side in order to pull it off, and then gets blindsided by the Lancelot. Only this time we have to wait a week for the resolution instead of five minutes.

I mean, man, some Chessmaster! I'd have thought he would have planned better for Lancelot after what happened last time. I'm going to be seriously disappointed if this turns into another stalemate, since that would pretty much mean that the overall political situation hasn't changed in the last several episodes.

Well episode 15 of R2 was a bit of a mind screw.

Apparently a Geass user with enough experience will have the mantel of immortal pact maker shoved on them. Was cool to learn that Geasses are all personality powers, based on what the user wants to most in their heart.

The entire series, for me at least, has been one giant mindscrew. It's far worse in the second season, however, especially when you realize how brutally depressing everything is getting for Lelouch and everyone around him. To name a few examples: [[spoiler: Lelouch is sold out to his father, who promptly erases his memories, by his best friend...for a promotion. Lelouch's new enemies are the Knights of Rounds: the 12 best pilots in the world with the 12 best Knightmare frames in the world (one of whom is Suzaku). Lelouch's girlfriend is murdered by his semi-sociopathic lieutenant/fake little brother. C.C, virtually his only real confident outside of Kallen, loses about 600 years worth of memories and can no longer help him. Kallen gets kidnapped by Suzaku...again. Nunnallly becomes Governor-General of Area 11, meaning she's now technically Lelouch's enemy. Lelouch's father gains immortality. Oh, and did I forget to mention that in the most recent episode Britannia invents the nuclear bomb?!]] I haven't seen a fictional military leader go through this much emotional trauma since Ender Wiggin. If he survives this war there will be no end to the amount of therapy he will need.

Anybody ever wonder why Lelouch never decides to kidnap all of his friends from school, to get them out of harms way? I mean, he obviously cares about them and wants to keep them safe, so why not protect himself from any psychological attacks, especially since his enemies know his true identity now, by just kidnapping them to ensure they're kept safe? It just bugs me.

Somebody fix the spoiler tags in this thread, 'cause they burn. A lot. My post here doesn't count because I'm in the small minority of tropers who watch it in English.

Anyway, I just stopped by this two months since last posted thread to make an observation.

Holy mackerel. The shit just really hit the fan. I am utterly astounded by the horrific turn of events that has just taken place. Everything just seems to be cruising along normally, we nearly have a resolution and then, whoa, Euphemia gets geassed into committing genocide against the Japanese people?

That's some Grade-A Nightmare Fuel right there. I keep thinking of blood-soaked Euphemia politely and cheerfully asking, then ordering soldiers to murder every Japanese person they see on sight, and I can't help but shudder. What a terrifying mental image. When she died I was actually glad, because I don't think she could have lived with herself if she had known what she had done, even if it was against her will. Even Lelouch is having trouble handling it. It's even worse when I consider all the idealistic characters in this show who are never going to trust any reformer in the Britannian Empire again after what happened.

And just to make things worse, I've got at least a week and a half before I get to see what happens next. At least I get to feel the pain of those who were watching it in the original Japanese broadcasts.

I just finished reading the first volume in the manga. And I was just wondering (because I couldn't find much information about this) if anyone knew if they were going to continue the manga series or just have the one volume.

So I'm watching this now, adding it to the list of awesome things I've found out about via TV Tropes. And I just watched episode 22. And, well...sometimes I regret being such a Spoiler Hound, but, wow, I don't know WHAT I would have done if I hadn't been warned about that one. I mean...damn. Just, damn. Part of me just wants to pretend the series ended two-thirds of the way through that episode, part of me acknowledges it's a damn good plot development but...ergh...

Mulon, if new releases are imminent, then you can probably see them listed on sites like amazon.com.

Haven- which season are you in? I seem to remember episode 22 is important in both of them (do not tell me why it's important in R2, I only know that it's important because there're spoiler barricades around any mention of it in the articles).

The first season. Which is to say, I'm talking about the "Euphinator" incident. Everything was going so well right up until "Oh, I could tell you to kill all the Japanese" and, I know he's not in great shape, but he couldn't have done something before she left the room? Or Geassed the guards? CC couldn't have warned him to watch what he says? Sheesh.

edited Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:49:01 by Haven

Okay, just finished the series, and...

DAMN. That was AMAZING.

The whole time I was wondering why Lulu didn't just say "I didn't give her the command on purpose" or "I don't see you as pawns"—you're not Light Yagami, stand up for yourself! Then when I realized what Zero Requiem was...shit.

It's also rather impressive that, even though I was spoiled to hell about this, everything that happened was still shocking and dramatic.

Holy crap.

I do agree there was some They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot going on, but it didn't bother me nearly as much as I thought it would. In particular, I'm actually really glad that the "World of C" and the Instrumentality plot, despite being Charles' whole plan, didn't end up the Plot Tumor it seemed like it was going to be. If there had been time for me to think about it, I guess I would have considered that anticlimactic, but happily I marathon the whole thing, so maybe this was a case of Better on DVD. Although Bismarck's reveal of his Geass and subsequent defeat by Suzaku was quite...sudden, I also didn't mind that. I don't know...I mean, there were some good stories there, true, but I think telling them would have really detracted from the main plot and the pacing without adding that much.

But yeah, that was incredibly moving, and now I kind of want to cosplay as Lelouch at some point.

edited Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:31:20 by Haven