The Order of the Stick

Would a Baleful Polymorph spell swindle it?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Depends on whether the anti-magic effect of crossing the barrier would dispel that. (If I am remembering it correctly.)

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

So Hilgya's still in the picture. I wonder how they're persuading her. I can't see her being into saving the world, but I definitely think she'd be down to screw with the council considering how much she hates dwarf power structures.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

I think she'd be willing to save the world because she lives in it.

Unrelated, i'm surprised this page wasn't somekind of prank given it came out on April 1st (which is good, because I hate April Fools).

I left those two out intentionally; neither are present in the scene yet.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Hilgya is. You can see her next to Belkar just before Roy and Durkon charge in.

Minrah may or may not be here but frankly, it would make sense for her not to be. She's already paid the penalty for being a low-level character caught up in high-level shenanigans, and now we have not one but two high-level Clerics on the field. One of whom just got a shnazzy new weapon upgrade.

There may have been some utility in initially recruiting her since the party was in desperate need of any sort of Cleric. But as things stand now, there's really not a lot of reason to have Minrah come die stupidly in a throw-down with the nightcrawler.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 1st 2019 at 12:13:17 PM

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Kudzu can enter, it if matters.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

It just might

She might not be able to stand against the Nightcrawler, but Durkon specifically mentionned raising her the night before. She could be useful in the council room since she's one of the few people who can actually enter it.

Edited by Resileafs on Apr 1st 2019 at 2:28:23 PM

Wait, are the effects of no attacking limited by the room itself or by walking through the barrier? I assume it's the room itself but I'd find it hilarious if they brought in her body, raised it and then she proceeded to bash in some skulls via loophole abuse.

Gontor says "within the boundaries of the blue barrier", so it's the room itself.

Edited by Resileafs on Apr 1st 2019 at 2:47:03 PM

What if you stand outside the blue barrier and hurl a magic returning hammer in to hit a dude?

Employing violence from outside the Magic Pacifism Shield at people inside of it is a time-honored method of beating such defenses.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 1st 2019 at 1:26:10 PM

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Assuming of course that the hammer can reach the council room from outside the blue barrier. Personally if I was the builder of this place, I'd make sure that it's not a straight line to the council room.

just build it like a school bathroom with an l-shaped entry hall

Maybe hammer can curve its flight

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Thanks I had overlooked her.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

We've been focusing so much on the magic users here that we may have disregarded the sheer DPS that Roy (and now Durkon) have to offer with their weapons alone. They can bring that thing down in short order if something doesn't stop them.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

We saw in this strip that the orange barrier prevents magic attacks from entering. I wouldn't be surprised if the blue barrier's effect was applied in a similar fashion.

The Blue Zone is for loading and unloading only.

I think there’s a global conspiracy to see who can get the most clicks on the worst lies

No, but mainly because Baleful Polymorph can only change creatures into small, harmless critters.

Magic attacks, sure — we can't see what happened to the arrow that missed Gontor, though. It's a dispelling effect, so it makes perfect sense that it would stop spells. Stopping physical objects would be a completely separate effect, and the fact that there's multiple barriers suggests they each do different things.

You miss understand; I'm not saying each barrier would block magic attacks, I'm saying the "take effect at the moment of contact with the barrier" thing would probably be universal.

Sure, but the effect is that any person violating dwarven law within its boundaries is turned to stone. It's punitive rather than preventative, which carries a loophole problem in that Durkon's hammer isn't a person.

So if you're standing outside its boundaries and just lobbing attacks across the threshold, there is no person within the barrier to petrify. Well, except the target if they attempt to retaliate since attacking or using any spell or supernatural ability on any creature is explicitly forbidden.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 2nd 2019 at 12:02:23 PM

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I get that loopholes are a thing, but I don't honestly see how projectiles couldn't be taken into account.

Because that's not the same thing as "rules not made for what happens when a body guard attacks their own priest" or "not prepared for vampires to attack the ones hosting the event".

Quoth Gontor:

"The dwarves clearly believed they only needed to worry about influence from foreign sources, not from their own kind. Or maybe the ones who built this place wanted to quietly reserve the ability to tamper with the vote themselves."

We already know that the magical defenses here are suboptimal, so appealing to competency isn't much of a counterargument.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 2nd 2019 at 12:28:48 PM

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