Naruto

I still think the amount of hate the main character is getting for pulling off not one but three or four Big Damn Heroes when the other characters were clearly about to die*

is ridiculous.

I've understood the hating in some of the more recent chapters but this chapters gets for Naruto's actions.

edited 4th Oct '11 7:17:36 PM by Vyctorian

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You're failing to understand the arguments against him doing so Vyctorian.

Right cause people want to see there favorite characters maimed or killed in one *

shot, after fighting in war for like three days straight.

What's the alternative giving a character we didn't see for three months out of this year panel time, when they're the main character.

edited 4th Oct '11 7:20:42 PM by Vyctorian

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Got to side with Vyctorian here, I thought this chapter was awesome, and at least Naruto saving people means that there was a good reason not to keep him out of the action and shows that Madara's army is credible after all.

Yes. You're exactly right. You have definitely showed you understand the opposing viewpoint, Vyctorian. Here, have a cookie.

The Massive Hate Dumb of Naruto *

Has anyone else not been fighting in the war for three days besides Bee, Naruto and the commanders*

. Well and Itachi as well, but he's a special.

edited 4th Oct '11 7:27:55 PM by Vyctorian

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I understand the other sides viewpoint, but the Allied forces are exhausted from all the fighting. The Zombies and Zetsu don't get exhausted, that's why they're gaining the advantage now.

They're not complaining about the other characters getting saved. They're complaining about the other characters needing to be saved.

Also, it's been one day, not three.

edited 4th Oct '11 7:36:21 PM by Gilphon

It's been at least two days or at least we are in on two days, but I'm pretty sure we are either on or approaching day three. Either way even one days against hundreds of B-S Rank zombies and Zetsu's, would be enough to exhaust any of the ninja's we've seen on screen. Every single one we've seen has been exhausted by less, none of which are power houses and none of which were having epic battles. they were getting Zerg Rushed if they we're facing awesome Kage's or something that's understandable but bitching cause Naruto killed a few mooks who were about to get lucky. Seriously.

edited 4th Oct '11 7:44:14 PM by Vyctorian

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You're looking at this from the character's POV; from a storytelling perspective, having Naruto save everyone is not a good thing for the series. Let everyone have a shot.

We had three-four months without him in which pretty much every character got a spotlight, even if they've had one before.

Let's say everyone gets a shot; congratulations on killing some mooks, supporting characters.

It's not like Sakura hasn't had an awesome moment against Zetsu!Negi, Hinata never fought pain with pain or had a back to back badasses with Negi, and Shikamaru didn't take on Zombie!Asuma.

edited 4th Oct '11 7:49:56 PM by Vyctorian

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-reads wanderlust's article-

...

-slowclaps-

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."

@wanderlust The weird thing is that Naruto has the good half of the Nine Tails' chakra.

Cru's proud of you ? O.o This can't be good.

The first day had the battle with the Gold & Silver bros, Asuma, etc. The we had the night, with white zetsus and Naruto's escape. Now we're in the morning of the second day.

Tonight's when Madara goes through with his Moon Eye Plan so Kabuto's gotta win today or die/lose.

Ambiguous, but at one point we see him regretting that he lost the chance to capture Naruto and Bee himself so he could force Madara to do something, IIRC.

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Well we know he wants Sasuke,but I don't think that's his whole goal just a part of it.

I concur with the it's the second day morning assessment and I am one of the "I know he's the gorram main character but can't other people do anything" tropers.

Having Naruto break out of island has made 99.8% of both forces unnecessary. He has how many fox mode clones out there? And each on is Rasen-spamming like a mutherfu— and using Rasen-promotion to literally make up Rasen-variations at will. And there has been no consequence?

I like the earlier statement of him running out of chakra when facing Madara and just dropping from exhaustion.

But Naruto aside (sooo effin hard to do). The return to non Kage characters is hopefully a transition to more diverse (meaning non-Naruto) fighting before whatever endgame plans Kabutomaru has.

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@Vanitas, EHK: oh God dammit.

They are on day two of this war. And while they aren't keeping track of time in the series, they burned through hours having Naruto fight/talk to Ay (it started at the beginning of night and ended at daybreak) and again by standing around.

That's actually one of the things that bugged me that I forgot to include last page, that not only were they just standing around, they were doing so for hours.

@Arha, Gilphon: thank you. A lot of us know it bugs me when someone is misunderstanding a point, so thanks for trying to explain it while I was out.

yes! You used "rasen-promotion"!

edited 4th Oct '11 9:40:19 PM by wanderlustwarrior

The sad, REAL American dichotomy

For a moment there I actually thought we'd get to see what's in the coffin (the chapter was named "Kabuto's Trump Card" after all)... but well...

And the annoying thing about Naruto isn't that he saves people... it's that only Naruto can save them. Damn you Kishimoto! Why didn't you give the ability to see the clones to the Byakyugan or something else.

By the way... I'm surprised that NARUTO SAVES EVERYONE isn't on the Moment Of Awesome page yet...

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Danzo would suck as a Hokage... he's way too extreme, doesn't seem to have anything like morals and only cares about Konoha... and we all know that this combination wouldn't work out in a million years. Shikamaru would be a good Hokage if he wasn't such a lazy ass...

edited 4th Oct '11 9:48:42 PM by kay4today

@EHK: I'm adding to you guys' joke on Your Approval Fills Me with Shame.

@Kay: which comment is that in response to? Also, Shikamaru's no longer lazy, and Danzo cares about the world, but the Leaf Village first.

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Alright, so we seem to be in two camps (as far as I can tell, most tropers vs. Vyctorian and Saiga) on the whole Naruto-block thing, and we don't seem to be convincing each other. I thought my earlier "article" might've clarified and ended it, but I guess not. Did I at least make anyone chuckle by saying Ino could be useful?

Anyway, what say we table this and move on?

edited 4th Oct '11 9:50:00 PM by wanderlustwarrior

The sad, REAL American dichotomy