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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]]. They also believe that the detractors tend to how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do criticize Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way while having a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters.

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]]. They also believe that the detractors tend to overlook or downplay how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do criticize Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way while having a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters.
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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]]. They also believe that the detractors tend to how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do criticize Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way while having a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while .

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]]. They also believe that the detractors tend to how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do criticize Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way while having a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while .characters.
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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring times]]. They also believe that the detractors tend to how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have criticize Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way while having a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.while .
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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] various other pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.
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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very polarizing among the fanbase, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very polarizing among the fanbase, contentious, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.
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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very polarizing among the fanbase, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation under the cover of providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War while also overtly focusing on "[[EvilIsCool flashy Zeon mobile suits]]" at the expense of the WarIsHell themes at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very polarizing among the fanbase, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation under the cover of by providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War while also overtly focusing on "[[EvilIsCool flashy Zeon mobile suits]]" at the expense of the WarIsHell themes at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.
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This debate is "big" enough it deserves a mention. Honestly through, the detractors "kinda have it" despite the existence of the Titans.

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** The release of any OVA set in the Universal Century centering the narrative on the Principality of Zeon or giving them significant focus tend to be very polarizing among the fanbase, especially in recent years with more awareness of persistence of far-right and historical negationist attitudes within Japanese politics surrounding the Second World War and [[Anime/AttackOnTitan various]] [[Literature/{{Gate}} other]] pieces of popular Japanese media being accused of peddling ultranationalist sentiments. One group of fans accuse these sorts of OVA of both whitewashing Zeon and overtly demonizing the Federation under the cover of providing [[GreyingMorality unnecessary moral ambiguity]] to the One Year War while also overtly focusing on "[[EvilIsCool flashy Zeon mobile suits]]" at the expense of the WarIsHell themes at best, and providing a mouthpiece for [[AuthorTract far-right Japanese nationalist tracts]] using Gundam as a cover at worst. These detractors would also note that despite the WarIsHell and BlackAndGreyMorality themes of the Universal Century, Tomino was himself very critical of Japan's wartime atrocities and made Zeon an allegory for Imperial Japan. Another group of fans feel said perspective to be premature and unnuanced, pointing out that Tomino has himself written the Federation as horrifically corrupt and [[Anime/ZetaGundam elements of it as outright villainous at times]], while ignoring how said Zeon-centric [=OVAs=] do have a fair number of sympathetic Federation characters while also criticizing Zeon's ideology and war conduct in their own way.
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** Some fans really want to believe that the ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' remake movies have shunted the less-popular ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' out of canon, but that's not the case (see {{Canon}} and ContinuitySnarl on the main page).

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** Some fans really want to believe that the ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' remake movies have shunted the less-popular ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' out of canon, but that's not the case (see {{Canon}} and ContinuitySnarl on the main page).case.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks / ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The series often gets complaints that the Gundams all look way too similar to each other. Yet when they went with going with a ''very'' different design approach in ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' by bringing in American Syd Mead, it was met with heavy derision from the community.
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* StarTrekMovieCurse: For Gundam, it's the "sequel series curse", where sequels to a series other than the original MSG tend to be poorly received in comparison: ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'', and to an extent the second seasons of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam 00]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron-Blooded Orphans]]''.

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* StarTrekMovieCurse: For Gundam, it's the "sequel series curse", where sequels to a series other than the original MSG tend to be poorly received in comparison: ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'', and to an extent the second seasons of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam 00]]'' and 00]]'', ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron-Blooded Orphans]]''.Orphans]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury The Witch from Mercury]]''.
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* [[DracoInLeatherPants/{{Gundam}} Draco In Leather Pants]]
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* [[NeverLiveItDown/{{Gundam}} Narm]]

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* [[NeverLiveItDown/{{Gundam}} Narm]]Never Live It Down]]

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!The Entire Franchise:

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!The Entire Franchise:----
!!The following have their own pages:
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* [[Monster/{{Gundam}} Complete Monster]]
* [[MagnificentBastard/{{Gundam}} Magnificent Bastard]]
* [[Memes/{{Gundam}} Memetic Mutation]]
* [[NeverLiveItDown/{{Gundam}} Narm]]
* [[Woobie/{{Gundam}} The Woobie]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[Monster/{{Gundam}} Has its own page.]]



* MagnificentBastard: See [[MagnificentBastard/{{Gundam}} here]].
* MemeticMutation: Enough to have [[Memes/{{Gundam}} its own page, as well.]]



* NeverLiveItDown: [[NeverLiveItDown/{{Gundam}} Has its own page]].



* TheWoobie: [[Woobie/{{Gundam}} Has its own page]].



%% * {{Wangst}}: Happens when the protagonist takes angst too far, which is depressingly frequent for people who just want to watch [[RuleOfCool giant robots fighting]].

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%% * {{Wangst}}: Happens when the protagonist takes angst too far, which is depressingly frequent for people who just want to watch [[RuleOfCool giant robots fighting]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[NeverLiveItDown/Gundam Has its own page]].

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* NeverLiveItDown: [[NeverLiveItDown/Gundam [[NeverLiveItDown/{{Gundam}} Has its own page]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[NeverLiveItDown/Gundam Has its own page]].

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'', while having one of the bleakest endings in all Gundam, is generally considered to be one of the best of them all. ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Gundam 0080]]'' is similarly dark, and similarly exalted. On the other hand, ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' is also considered to be among the best, and it's arguably the happiest Gundam series. Ditto for ''Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam'' another series that avoids the number of deaths Tomino is infamous for. Incidentally, Tomino wrote ''Zeta'', ''Turn A'', and ''Crossbones''. ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'', which is orders of magnitude more lighthearted than anything else in the franchise, also got a very positive response.
* {{Wangst}}: Happens when the protagonist takes TrueArtIsAngsty too far, which is depressingly frequent for people who just want to watch [[RuleOfCool giant robots fighting]].

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'', while having one of the bleakest endings in all Gundam, is generally considered to be one of the best of them all. ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Gundam 0080]]'' is similarly dark, and similarly exalted. On the other hand, ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' is also considered to be among the best, and it's arguably the happiest Gundam series. Ditto for ''Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam'' another series that avoids the number of deaths Tomino is infamous for. Incidentally, Tomino wrote ''Zeta'', ''Turn A'', and ''Crossbones''. ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'', which is orders of magnitude more lighthearted than anything else in the franchise, also got a very positive response.
%% * {{Wangst}}: Happens when the protagonist takes TrueArtIsAngsty angst too far, which is depressingly frequent for people who just want to watch [[RuleOfCool giant robots fighting]].
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* FriendlyFandoms: With both fans of the ''Franchise/UltraSeries'' and ''Franchise/KamenRider'', resulting in a fandom overlap intertwining between franchises and leading to various comparisons and jokes for multiple installments, due to a lot of surprisingly plot-specific similarities, as well as those 3 franchises appeared in the ''Compati Hero'' crossover video game series.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'', while having one of the bleakest endings in all Gundam, is generally considered to be one of the best of them all. ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Gundam 0080]]'' is similarly dark, and similarly exalted. On the other hand, ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' is also considered to be among the best, and it's arguably the happiest Gundam series. Ditto for ''Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam'' another series that avoids the KillEmAll status Tomino is infamous for. Incidentally, Tomino wrote ''Zeta'', ''Turn A'', and ''Crossbones''. ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'', which is orders of magnitude more lighthearted than anything else in the franchise, also got a very positive response.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'', while having one of the bleakest endings in all Gundam, is generally considered to be one of the best of them all. ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Gundam 0080]]'' is similarly dark, and similarly exalted. On the other hand, ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' is also considered to be among the best, and it's arguably the happiest Gundam series. Ditto for ''Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam'' another series that avoids the KillEmAll status number of deaths Tomino is infamous for. Incidentally, Tomino wrote ''Zeta'', ''Turn A'', and ''Crossbones''. ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'', which is orders of magnitude more lighthearted than anything else in the franchise, also got a very positive response.

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