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* EvilIsSexy: [[spoiler:Mary Reid]] according to some fans due to looking like a traditionally sexy vampire, though having a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds sympathetic backstory also helps a great deal]].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Charlotte Ashbury whose speech about how "women die too in this war" has left player divided on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how to interpret her]]. Some view her as a StrawFeminist who cannot stand the war taking attention away from her, while other views her speech as a call for women to help the draftees. Even beyond that, players will argue that she can still be likeable in spite or because of that.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Charlotte Ashbury Ashbury, the adoptive feminist daughter of Elizabeth. Is she an endearing "[[ActionGirl strong independent woman]]" like her mother describes her, or just a preachy BrattyHalfPint whose speech about how "women die too dying in this war" has left player divided on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how to interpret her]]. war too" is insensitive? Some view her as a StrawFeminist who cannot stand the war taking attention away from her, while other views her speech as a call for women to help the draftees. Even beyond that, players will may also TakeAThirdOption and argue that she can still be likeable in spite or because of that.these flaws, she's still likeable.
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...So because those standards weren't commonplace at the time it means that Edgar secretely performing experiments on his patients is okay? Not to mention that his operating in secrecy obscured the cause of the outbreak for those trying to stop it. It's presented as wrong because it IS wrong, regardless of what standard practice at the time might have been.


* InformedWrongness: [[spoiler:Edgar’s experiment on Harriet Jones. It’s presented as a bad thing and Jonathan chews him out on it, but what he’s overlooking is that a lot of the strict standards for experimentation we have now weren’t implemented until the 80s. Back in the interwar period, experiments, especially those about pathogens and disease, were common and often government-sanctioned.]]
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** [[spoiler:Dr. Swansea is revealed to have crossed it when he began the Skal epidemic by injecting Harriet Jones with Lady Ashbury's blood. Though he argues it was an extremely careless 'accident' on his part, he most definitely crossed the moral event horizon in Jonathan's point-of-view since from that point on, the only things left to do are to [[KickTheSonOfABitch kill him]], [[MurderByInaction leave him to die of his injuries]] or [[CruelMercy punish him with vampirism]] (it [[CursedWithAwesome doesn't quite work]])]].

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** [[spoiler:Dr. Swansea is revealed to have crossed it when he began the Skal epidemic by injecting Harriet Jones with Lady Ashbury's blood. Though he argues it was an extremely careless 'accident' on his part, he most definitely crossed the moral event horizon in Jonathan's point-of-view since from that point on, the only things left to do are to [[KickTheSonOfABitch kill him]], him, [[MurderByInaction leave him to die of his injuries]] or [[CruelMercy punish him with vampirism]] (it [[CursedWithAwesome doesn't quite work]])]].
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** Are the Guard of Priwen a bunch of TheFundamentalist KnightTemplar types or are they simply TheExtremistWasRight and a NecessaryEvil since London ''is'' overrun with vampires.

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** Are the Guard of Priwen a bunch of TheFundamentalist KnightTemplar types or are they simply TheExtremistWasRight and a NecessaryEvil NecessarilyEvil since London ''is'' overrun with vampires.
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* DesignatedHero: This is one way to at the Guard of Priwen and, in particular, [=McCullum=]. Throughout the story, the Guard commits a lot of morally questionable or downright villainous deeds: they break into [[spoiler:Dorothy’s]] dispensary and shoot all the patients on sight, they mug an innocent trade unionist, they can potentially butcher a human woman who only believes she’s a vampire. A few of these transgressions are called out, but no one in the Guard pays any penance. This becomes egregious late-game where Jonathan has to [[spoiler:rescue Edgar. To even get to him, Jonathan is forced to read [=McCullum's=] findings. This results in him, without rhyme or reason, accepting [=McCullum's=] version of events instantly and implicitly. Recognizing this, Swansea’s subsequent pillar choice falls flat as it devolves into Jonathan interrogating him by using his mortal enemy’s unequivocally ‘correct’ views he chose to take for granted five minutes ago.]]

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* DesignatedHero: This is one way to look at the Guard of Priwen and, in particular, [=McCullum=]. Throughout the story, the Guard commits a lot of morally questionable or downright villainous deeds: they break into [[spoiler:Dorothy’s]] [[spoiler:Dorothy's]] dispensary and shoot all the patients on sight, they mug an innocent trade unionist, they can potentially butcher a human woman who only believes she’s she's a vampire. A few of these transgressions are called out, but no one in the Guard pays any penance. This becomes egregious late-game where Jonathan has to [[spoiler:rescue Edgar. To even get to him, Jonathan is forced to read [=McCullum's=] findings. This results in him, without rhyme or reason, accepting [=McCullum's=] version of events instantly and implicitly. Recognizing this, Swansea’s Swansea's subsequent pillar choice falls flat as it devolves into Jonathan interrogating him by using his mortal enemy’s enemy's unequivocally ‘correct’ 'correct' views he chose to take for granted five minutes ago.]]



** It's implied that Emelyne may have developed schizophrenia following her husband's self-exile and Mary losing her baby to the flu. Jonathan has described her as “sickly” too. However, it's also possible she had her brain fried by Mary's Mesmerism.

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** It's implied that Emelyne may have developed schizophrenia following her husband's self-exile and Mary losing her baby to the flu. Jonathan has described her as “sickly” "sickly" too. However, it's also possible she had her brain fried by Mary's Mesmerism.

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** Elisabeth's adopted daughter Charlotte is also well-liked by the fanbase for being plucky, poised, and yanking Jonathan's chain when they first run into each other.



** Thanks to civilian [=NPCs=] having their distinctive backstories and character traits, there is an untapped fanfic fodder exploring their lives, what would happen if they became vampires themselves, etc.

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** Thanks to civilian [=NPCs=] civilians having their distinctive backstories and character traits, there is an untapped fanfic fodder exploring their lives, what would happen if they became vampires themselves, etc.
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* CatharsisFactor: While embracing can be considered morally questionable many time, one exception is [[spoiler:Aloysius Dawson. In addition to being a ruthless rich weapon manufacturer with no regards for poor people, his [[EntitledBastard sheer entitlement]] and [[DudeWheresMyRespect lack of gratitude]] when expecting you to grant him immortality is so insufferable that it feels very satisfying to watch the terror on his face when he realizes he will die for good]].

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** Played for Laughs with Jonathan Reid. Most of the time, he avoids this trope due to being a cool and collected gentleman, except for that one time when he gets asked about vampires' sex life since that clearly never crossed his mind before.

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** Played for Laughs PlayedForLaughs with Jonathan Reid. Most of the time, he avoids this trope due to being a cool and collected gentleman, except for that one time when he gets asked about vampires' sex life since that clearly never crossed his mind before.



%% **Edgar Swansea. You won't find someone who has played the game and remained neutral towards him.

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Hiding ZCE and removing misused non-YYMV trope.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Edgar Swansea. You won't find someone who has played the game and remained neutral towards him.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Edgar Charlotte Ashbury whose speech about how "women die too in this war" has left player divided on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how to interpret her]]. Some view her as a StrawFeminist who cannot stand the war taking attention away from her, while other views her speech as a call for women to help the draftees. Even beyond that, players will argue that she can still be likeable in spite or because of that.
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Swansea. You won't find someone who has played the game and remained neutral towards him.



* BossInMookClothing: The Ill-Formed Beast, a delightful worst-of-both-worlds merger between Ichors and Vulps. It is only found very late in the game and appears only in specific locations — players will not even encounter it unless they are attempting to finish the Occult Oculus side quest or venture into the fallen West End district. It has large health and stamina bars, high resistance to most forms of damage, spits poison at long range, and is a LightningBruiser who can lay players out with a single combo if they are not careful. Fortunately, it is possible to complete all objectives without engaging it, making this an example of BonusBoss mook at the same time.
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** Aloysius Dawson is every bit the massive jackass as Lady Ashbury describes him, but he is not over the MEH ''yet''. If he is turned into a vampire though, [[spoiler:he intends to feed on his employees, kills all his other family members so he can keep their inheritance, goes on a power trip planning to have England conquer the rest of Europe and then place an immortal monarch ruling over the rest of the world. To make matters worse, he becomes a KarmaHoudini and there is nothing you can do to stop him]].

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** Aloysius Dawson is every bit the massive jackass as Lady Ashbury describes him, but he is not over the MEH ''yet''. If he is turned into a vampire though, [[spoiler:he intends to feed on his employees, kills all his other family members so he can keep their inheritance, goes on a power trip planning to have England conquer the rest of Europe and then place an immortal monarch ruling over the rest of the world. To make matters worse, he becomes a KarmaHoudini and there is nothing you can do to stop him]]. Even worse than that is that this is all your fault, and could have been avoided by doing a bit of detective work or even simply killing him instead of purposefully empowering him, knowing he didn’t have good intentions.
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** Reid's trendy modern undercut ''is'' actually appropriate for someone coming off the front in 1918. The 'hipster' beard is also more or less era-appropriate.
** Charlotte Ashbury mentions that some folks are sarcastically talking about building a wall around the West End to corral the voices of the Suffrage Movement. She then says if they ever did that she would blow it up. This seems like a pithy quip meant to show that the Suffrage Movement won't be silenced, but in reality, the first wave of feminism (especially in Britain) did commit several acts of terrorism, such as breaking windows and firebombing mailboxes.

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