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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [[BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, since the 2010's, the hatedom died out, thanks to some [[CulturalTranslation local adapatations]] of the opera itself there.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [[BannedInChina be banned, bannednin this country, in a literal sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, since the 2010's, the hatedom died out, out thanks to some [[CulturalTranslation local adapatations]] of the opera itself there.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [[BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, since the 2010's, the hatedom diedd out there, thanks to some [[CulturalTranslation local adapatations]] of the opera itself.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [[BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, since the 2010's, the hatedom diedd out there, died out, thanks to some [[CulturalTranslation local adapatations]] of the opera itself.itself there.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [[BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, ''Turandot'' is less hated there, thanks to some local adapatations of the opera itself.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [[BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, ''Turandot'' is less hated since the 2010's, the hatedom diedd out there, thanks to some [[CulturalTranslation local adapatations adapatations]] of the opera itself.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, ''Turandot'' is less hated there, thanks to some local adapatations of the opera itself.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [BannedInChina [[BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,] sense,]] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, ''Turandot'' is less hated there, thanks to some local adapatations of the opera itself.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted in China. This opera used to [BannedInChina be banned, in a literal sense,] and hated because of it being seen as a xenophobic work there. However, ''Turandot'' is less hated there, thanks to some local adapatations of the opera itself.


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* BrokenBase: How the opera truly ends depends on the opinion of the person viewing it. The Alfano ending, in which Turandot calls Calaf "Love," is the standard ending, but not everyone agrees with this bombastic conclusion, citing its inadequate buildup of Turandot's HeelFaceTurn, so a number of [[RevisedEnding different endings have been composed over the years]]. In 2002, Luciano Berio created a more [[MaybeEverAfter ambiguous ending]]. In 2008, a Chinese composer named Hao Wei Ya composed an ending where Calaf kisses Turandot tenderly instead of forcefully and Turandot sings a whole aria expanding upon her HeelFaceTurn. And in 2017, Anton Coppola, [[CoolOldGuy at the age of 100]], composed a radically [[DownerEnding grim finale]] where Turandot instead [[DeathByAdaptation has Calaf beheaded]], [[ButForMeItWasTuesday like so many of her other would-be suitors]]. It's safe to say that whichever ending you prefer is entirely up to you. Sometimes the opera is performed without an ending at all, Liu's death and funeral being the end.

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* BrokenBase: How the opera truly ends depends on the opinion of the person viewing it. The Alfano ending, in which Turandot calls Calaf "Love," is the standard ending, but not everyone agrees with this bombastic conclusion, citing its inadequate buildup of Turandot's HeelFaceTurn, so a number of [[RevisedEnding different endings have been composed over the years]]. In 2002, Luciano Berio created a more [[MaybeEverAfter ambiguous ambiguous]] [[AmbiguousEnding ending]]. In 2008, a Chinese composer named Hao Wei Ya composed an ending where Calaf kisses Turandot tenderly instead of forcefully and Turandot sings a whole aria expanding upon her HeelFaceTurn. And in 2017, Anton Coppola, [[CoolOldGuy at the age of 100]], composed a radically [[DownerEnding grim finale]] where Turandot instead [[DeathByAdaptation has Calaf beheaded]], [[ButForMeItWasTuesday like so many of her other would-be suitors]]. It's safe to say that whichever ending you prefer is entirely up to you. Sometimes the opera is performed without an ending at all, Liu's death and funeral being the end.



* DesignatedHero: Calaf's stubborness and general refusal to care about anything except winning Turandot's hand, as well as Liu dying for him, don't endear him to some viewers. Lampshaded in certain productions where Timur, Calaf's father, disowns his son after Liu's death.
* EsotericHappyEnding: Not a few viewers seem to interpret the finale that way. Really, a HappyEnding literally minutes after the best person in the whole opera killed themselves, doesn't look too convincing. Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to ''literal torture at the hands of the titular character'', just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]
%%* TearJerker: It's a Puccini opera, what else did you expect?

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* DesignatedHero: Calaf's stubborness stubbornness and general refusal to care about anything except winning Turandot's hand, as well as Liu dying for him, don't endear him to some viewers. Lampshaded in certain productions where Timur, Calaf's father, disowns his son after Liu's death.
* EsotericHappyEnding: Not a few Some viewers seem to interpret the finale that this way. Really, a HappyEnding literally minutes after the best person in the whole opera killed themselves, doesn't look too convincing. Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to ''literal torture at the hands of the titular character'', just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]
%%* TearJerker: It's a Puccini opera, what else did you expect?
hooray?]]
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessun_dorma "Nessun Dorma"]] in particular ''demands'' special mention. Luciano Pavarotti's performance of it in the 90s made it quite possibly the most-recognised piece of opera music ever composed.

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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessun_dorma "Nessun Dorma"]] in particular ''demands'' special mention. Luciano Pavarotti's performance of it in the 90s TheNineties made it quite possibly the most-recognised piece of opera music ever composed.
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%%* TrueArtIsAngsty: As an opera. But it actually has a HappyEnding!
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* TearJerker: It's a Puccini opera, what else did you expect?
* TrueArtIsAngsty: As an opera. But it actually has a HappyEnding!

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* %%* TearJerker: It's a Puccini opera, what else did you expect?
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessun_dorma "Nessun Dorma"]] in particular ''demands'' special mention. Luciano Pavarotti's performance of it in the 90s made it quite possibly the most-recognised piece of opera music ever composed.
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* BrokenBase: How the opera truly ends depends on the opinion of the person viewing it. The Alfano ending, in which Turandot calls Calaf "Love," is the standard ending, but not everyone agrees with this bombastic conclusion, citing its inadequate buildup of Turandot's HeelFaceTurn, so a number of [[RevisedEnding different endings have been composed over the years]]. In 2002, Luciano Berio created a more [[MaybeEverAfter ambiguous ending]]. In 2008, a Chinese composer named Hao Wei Ya composed an ending where Calaf kisses Turandot tenderly instead of forcefully and Turandot sings a whole aria expanding upon her HeelFaceTurn. And in 2017, Anton Coppola, [[CoolOldGuy at the age of 100]], composed a radically [[DownerEnding grim finale]] where Turandot instead [[DeathByAdaptation has Calaf beheaded]], [[ButForMeItWasTuesday like so many of her other would-be suitors]]. It's safe to say that whichever ending you prefer is entirely up to you.

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* BrokenBase: How the opera truly ends depends on the opinion of the person viewing it. The Alfano ending, in which Turandot calls Calaf "Love," is the standard ending, but not everyone agrees with this bombastic conclusion, citing its inadequate buildup of Turandot's HeelFaceTurn, so a number of [[RevisedEnding different endings have been composed over the years]]. In 2002, Luciano Berio created a more [[MaybeEverAfter ambiguous ending]]. In 2008, a Chinese composer named Hao Wei Ya composed an ending where Calaf kisses Turandot tenderly instead of forcefully and Turandot sings a whole aria expanding upon her HeelFaceTurn. And in 2017, Anton Coppola, [[CoolOldGuy at the age of 100]], composed a radically [[DownerEnding grim finale]] where Turandot instead [[DeathByAdaptation has Calaf beheaded]], [[ButForMeItWasTuesday like so many of her other would-be suitors]]. It's safe to say that whichever ending you prefer is entirely up to you. Sometimes the opera is performed without an ending at all, Liu's death and funeral being the end.
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*BrokenBase: How the opera truly ends depends on the opinion of the person viewing it. The Alfano ending, in which Turandot calls Calaf "Love," is the standard ending, but not everyone agrees with this bombastic conclusion, citing its inadequate buildup of Turandot's HeelFaceTurn, so a number of [[RevisedEnding different endings have been composed over the years]]. In 2002, Luciano Berio created a more [[MaybeEverAfter ambiguous ending]]. In 2008, a Chinese composer named Hao Wei Ya composed an ending where Calaf kisses Turandot tenderly instead of forcefully and Turandot sings a whole aria expanding upon her HeelFaceTurn. And in 2017, Anton Coppola, [[CoolOldGuy at the age of 100]], composed a radically [[DownerEnding grim finale]] where Turandot instead [[DeathByAdaptation has Calaf beheaded]], [[ButForMeItWasTuesday like so many of her other would-be suitors]]. It's safe to say that whichever ending you prefer is entirely up to you.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Not a few viewers seem to interpet the finale that way. Really, a HappyEnding literally minutes after the best person in the whole opera killed themselves, doesn't look too convincing.
** Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to ''literal torture at the hands of the titular character'', just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Not a few viewers seem to interpet interpret the finale that way. Really, a HappyEnding literally minutes after the best person in the whole opera killed themselves, doesn't look too convincing.
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convincing. Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to ''literal torture at the hands of the titular character'', just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]



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* AdaptationDisplacement: The opera has overshadowed the Gozzi play it's based on, as well as earlier musical versions by such distinguished composers as Weber and Busoni.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The whole opera -- which is kind of the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]] And, as Music/GiuseppeVerdi said, that's the only true gauge of success.
** Others point to Franco Alfano's bombastic conclusion, which didn't involve the [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jun/08/artsfeatures impressionistic subtleties Puccini had planned]] to use in the finale. (Berio's ending has more of these.)
*** Alfano's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z1EPZ2mlq4 original]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-lvEWlF4A ending]] which Toscanini cut ruthlessly, is actually performed sometimes today and has its own appreciative fans.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- which is kind of the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]] And, as Music/GiuseppeVerdi said, that's the only true gauge of success.
** Others point to Franco Alfano's bombastic conclusion, which didn't involve the [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jun/08/artsfeatures impressionistic subtleties Puccini had planned]] to use in the finale. (Berio's ending has more of these.)
*** Alfano's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z1EPZ2mlq4 original]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-lvEWlF4A ending]] which Toscanini cut ruthlessly, is actually performed sometimes today and has its own appreciative fans.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- which is kind of the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]] And, as Creator/GiuseppeVerdi said, that's the only true gauge of success.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- which is kind of the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]] And, as Creator/GiuseppeVerdi Music/GiuseppeVerdi said, that's the only true gauge of success.
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** Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to *literal torture at the hands of the titular character*, just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]

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** Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to *literal ''literal torture at the hands of the titular character*, character'', just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]
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** Especially since said person killed herself specifically to avoid giving in to *literal torture at the hands of the titular character*, just so that her master would have a shot at marrying the torturer herself. [[ValuesDissonance Um... hooray?]]

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** Others point to Franco Alfano's bombastic conclusion, which didn't involve the [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jun/08/artsfeatures impressionistic subtleties Puccini had planned]] to use in the finale.

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** Others point to Franco Alfano's bombastic conclusion, which didn't involve the [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jun/08/artsfeatures impressionistic subtleties Puccini had planned]] to use in the finale. (Berio's ending has more of these.)
*** Alfano's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z1EPZ2mlq4 original]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-lvEWlF4A ending]] which Toscanini cut ruthlessly, is actually performed sometimes today and has its own appreciative fans.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- which is kind of the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]]

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- which is kind of the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]]]] And, as Creator/GiuseppeVerdi said, that's the only true gauge of success.
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** Others point to Franco Alfano's bombastic conclusion, which didn't involve the [[http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jun/08/artsfeatures impressionistic subtleties Puccini had planned]] to use in the finale.
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* DesignatedHero: Calaf's stubborness and general refusal to care about anything except winning Turandot's hand, as well as Liu dying for him, don't endear him to some viewers. Lampshaded in certain productions where Timur, Calaf's father, disowns his son after Liu's death.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty. Boy, and '''HOW'''.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty. Boy, and '''HOW'''.
TrueArtIsAngsty: As an opera. But it actually has a HappyEnding!
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- if you like that kind of thing.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera -- if you like that which is kind of thing.the problem, according to Puccini's critics, who maintain that underlining every single moment with Awesome Music of Awesomeness tends to kill the actual drama. [[CriticProof The ticket sales remain undiminished.]]
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole opera.opera -- if you like that kind of thing.
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* CriticalDissonance: Like most of Puccini's operas, ''Turandot'' still sells out at the box office, but at least one major critic, the musicologist Joseph Kerman, is not convinced: 'Nobody would deny that dramatic potential can be found in this tale. [[DeadpanSnarker Puccini, however, did not find it.]]'

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* MisattributedSong: Not really an example, but Enrico Caruso, who was notorious for his Puccini roles, died before he could sing "Nessun Dorma."
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* EsotericHappyEnding: Not a few viewers seem to interpet the finale that way. Really, a HappyEnding literally minutes after the best person in the whole opera was tortured to death, doesn't look too convincing.
* MisattributedSong: Not really an example, but Enrico Caruso, who was notorious for his Puccini roles, died before he could sing "Nessun dorma."

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* EsotericHappyEnding: Not a few viewers seem to interpet the finale that way. Really, a HappyEnding literally minutes after the best person in the whole opera was tortured to death, killed themselves, doesn't look too convincing.
* MisattributedSong: Not really an example, but Enrico Caruso, who was notorious for his Puccini roles, died before he could sing "Nessun dorma.Dorma."



* TrueArtIsAngsty. Boy, and '''HOW'''.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty. Boy, and '''HOW'''.'''HOW'''.

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* MisattributedSong: Not really an example, but Enrico Caruso, who was notorious for his Puccini roles, died before he could sing "Nessun dorma."

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