History YMMV / ThiefIITheMetalAge

* HarsherInHindsight: Karras wanting to destroy the entire biosphere for the sake of some vaguely defined religious purpose takes on a new meaning in TheNewTens, considering [[https://newint.org/features/2018/11/06/did-brazil%E2%80%99s-evangelicals-put-jair-bolsonaro-office Right Wing Evangelicals helped elect Jair Bolsonaro President of Brazil]], who has begun to burn down the Amazon Rainforest for short term profits at the expense of potentially everyone on the planet, [[TooDumbToLive himself included]].

* {{Narm}}: Despite how much of a CompleteMonster Karras is, there's one thing preventing him from at least ''sounding'' intimidating, and that's his voice. Stephen Russell apparently decided to give the game's BigBad the same voice as {{WesternAnimation/Droopy}}.
* NarmCharm: On the other hand giving him a voice like this seems deliberate, to undercut the villain and present him as someone the audience is initially inclined to laugh at for sounding silly and underestimate, despite all the power he has, only to stop laughing when you find out the sheer scope of his horrific plans and scale of his madness. This vocal aspect to Karras can be considered quite poignant to his character, and can explain his entire motivation, his contempt for the flaws of humanity he is trying to erase with his machines and OmnicidalManiac plan, as part of a FreudianExcuse. It could be interpreted this very flaw of his and the in universe people's similar mocking treatment and laughter at him because of it is what drove him off the deep end in the first place. Nor can it be denied how much he stands out as a villain with the voice, and how bizarre it makes such a [[HateSink monstrous character]] seem. Stephen Russell's unique performance for Karras is certainly to be lauded.

* BestLevelEver: You'll find a lot of veteran ''Thief'' fans mark levels like ''Shipping... and Receiving'' as well as ''Life Of the Party'' on their "best levels" list. The former is an excellent introduction to the new level design on offer, with an open-ended objective (get as much loot as you can and get out), fantastic level design, and some neat backstory to uncover in regards to the different merchants. The latter is potentially one of the best levels in the series period, as it's daunting in size, is full of densely packed buildings and has an impossibly huge wealth to things to see and do in just a single level, and it has some excellent atmosphere that really makes you feel like a... well, thief.

* MostAnnoyingSound: The Mechanist Servants. They are everywhere in later missions. Their mechanical stomping combined with Karras' preaching, ''is relentless''.

* HarsherInHindsight: Karras wanting to destroy the entire biosphere for the sake of some vaguely defined religious purpose takes on a new meaning in TheNew10s, considering [[https://newint.org/features/2018/11/06/did-brazil%E2%80%99s-evangelicals-put-jair-bolsonaro-office Right Wing Evangelicals helped elect Jair Bolsonaro President of Brazil]], who has begun to burn down the Amazon Rainforest for short term profits at the expense of potentially everyone on the planet, [[TooDumbToLive himself included]].

* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Father Karras]] is the SocialDarwinist [[SinisterMinister high priest]] of a splinter faction of Hammerites that [[MachineWorship worship a deity known as the Master Builder]], but in Karras's case, he split from the original Hammerites due to his extremism that takes the form of wishing for the destruction of all organic life. Karras rebuilds [[ReligionOfEvil his religion]] around [[ItsAllAboutMe his own twisted ego]] and desires, with a Freudian Slip revealing that [[AGodAmI he places himself above his own God]]. Karras is responsible for [[DisposableVagrant kidnapping countless homeless people in the city]] and turning them into twisted mechanoid abominations, and he is [[EstablishingCharacterMoment introduced]] using his [[DeadlyGas special rust gas]] to painfully kill two innocent people as nothing more than a demonstration for a corrupt sheriff. Karras's EvilPlan is to use the rust gas to wipe out all organic life in the city and to that end, attempts genocide on the woodland peoples, with only AntiHero [[PlayerCharacter Garrett]] to stop him at the end.

* EvenBetterSequel: A frequently heard consensus on the game seems to be that it greatly built upon what the first installment got right (and what it handled less well). Of course, [[TitleDrop your mileage may vary.]] Key points often highlight the level design, which went from the singular routes of the first game to having very open-ended levels with multiple routes to reach your objective, becoming a true ImmersiveSim.

* EvenBetterSequel: A frequently heard consensus on the game seems to be that it greatly built upon what the first installment got right (and what it handled less well). Of course, [[TitleDrop your mileage may vary.]]

* CompleteMonster: Karras is the high priest of a splinter faction of Hammerites that worship a deity known as the Master Builder, but in Karras's case, he split from the original Hammerites due to his extremism that takes the form of wishing for the destruction of all organic life. Karras rebuilds his religion around his own twisted ego and desires and freudian slips reveal he places himself above his own God. Karras is responsible for kidnapping countless homeless people in the city and turning them into twisted mechanoid abominations, and our intro to him is his using his special rust gas to painfully kill two innocent people as nothing more than a demonstration for a corrupt sheriff. Karras's ultimate plan is to use the rust gas to wipe out all organic life in the city and to that end, attempts genocide on the woodland peoples, with only Anti-Hero Garret to stop him at the end.

* EvenBetterSequel: A frequently heard consensus on the game seems to be that it greatly built upon what the first installment got right (and what it handled less well). Of course, your mileage may vary.

* EvenBetterSequel: A frequently heard consensus on the game seems to be that it greatly built upon what the first installment got right (and what it handled less well). Of course, YourMileageMayVary.

* {{Narm}}: Despite how much of a CompleteMonster Karras is, there's one thing preventing him from at least ''sounding'' intimidating, and that's his voice. Karras' voice actor apparently decided to give the game's BigBad the same voice as {{WesternAnimation/Droopy}}.

* IAmNotShazam: Though it sounds like a nice and fairly logical alternative name for their faction, from a purely canon point of view, they are ''NOT'' known as "The Order of the Gear". [[{{Fanon}} That doesn't stop some fans from including such references in their fan works]], including [[GameMod fan missions]].