History YMMV / TheJudasContract

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Additionally, though the story certainly does ''[[InformedAbility talk]]'' about Terra being evil a whole lot, her actual evil ''actions'' mostly consist of her acting as a spy as part of Deathstroke's plan, and having a rude personality: over the course of the story, she fails to kill a single person apart from herself. [[AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.]]

** Some of Deathstroke's methods of capturing the Titans are... very old-school villain-y. His method of capturing Gar stands out: A massive pile of drugged envelopes, knowing Gar (attention junkie he is) will personally lick each envelope shut, ''eventually'' absorbing enough of the drug to knock him out. What makes it more baffling is Slade turns out to be waiting in the room once Gar finally passes out, and could've used any other method. Exactly what Slade would've done if Gar hadn't felt the need to answer all his fan mail at that exact time is unclear.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Additionally, though the story certainly does ''[[InformedAbility talk]]'' about Terra being evil a whole lot, her actual evil ''actions'' mostly consist of her acting as a spy as part of Deathstroke's plan, and having a rude personality: over the course of the story, she fails to kill a single person apart from herself. [[AdaptedOut Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.]]

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Additionally, though the story certainly does ''[[InformedAbility talk]]'' about Terra being evil a whole lot, her actual evil ''actions'' mostly consist of her acting as a spy as part of Deathstroke's plan, and having a rude personality: over the course of the story, she kills no one but herself. [[AdaptedOut Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.]]

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Additionally, though the story certainly does ''[[InformedAbility talk]]'' about Terra being evil a whole lot, her actual evil ''actions'' mostly consist of her acting as a spy as part of Deathstroke's plan, and having a rude personality: over the course of the story, she kills no one but herself. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Additionally, though the story certainly does ''[[InformedAbility talk]]'' about Terra being evil a whole lot, her actual evil ''actions'' mostly consist of her acting as a spy and having a rude personality, and over the course of the story, she kills no one but herself. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Additionally, though the story certainly does ''[[InformedAbility talk'' about Terra being evil a whole lot, her actual evil ''actions'' mostly consist of her acting as a spy and having a rude personality, and over the course of the story, she kills no one but herself. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to capture the Titans in the first place and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath a sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to kill the Titans in the first place as revenge for his son's death ([[MisplacedRetribution which wasn't even the Titans' fault]]) and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

* ValuesDissonance: Terra is seen as the true villain of this story, with the fact she was a 16-year-old girl in a sexual relationship with a man thirty years her senior being used to highlight how vile she is. In 2003, Changeling was back to calling out Slade for his part in hurting Terra. In the modern 2010s, their relationship would be called a form of grooming, and in the DTV adaptation, the ComicBook/DCRebirth ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' series and ''ComicBook/TheOtherHistoryOfTheDCUniverse'' it is unambiguously portrayed as such.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as [[TheSociopath as sociopath]] who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her evil deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to kill the Titans in the first place as revenge for his son's death ([[MisplacedRetribution which wasn't even the Titans' fault]]) and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

** [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Did Terra die from her powers going out of control]] or was she DrivenToSuicide? If the latter, was it [[TakingYouWithMen a suicide attack]] or just plain suicide?

* AdaptationDisplacement: More people are familiar with its adaptation from ''WesternAnimation/{{Teen Titans|2003}}'' than this comic; also applied as AdaptationalHeroism.

** Was Terra EvilAllAlong, and worked with Slade to destroy the Titans just out of irrational hate? Or was she a good and innocent teenager, corrupted by Deathstroke? It [[DependingOnTheWriter depends on the writer]]... on the future writers that reference Terra or this story, to be precise. The story as written by Marv Wolfman leaves no room for doubt: Terra was completely evil, even ObviouslyEvil.
** When Slade was talking down Changeling from killing him, was he counting on the fact that Changeling is a hero and wouldn't commit cold-blooded murder on a man who wouldn't put up a defense? Or was he truly tired from seeing that his efforts to avenge Grant amounted to AllForNothing and turned his son Jericho and Adeline against him?
** Slade while talking to Changeling admits that he never saw himself as a villain. Is he defending his viewpoint, or is it a HeelRealization on seeing the consequences of his actions?

** Was Terra HoistByHisOwnPetard or was she DrivenToSuicide? If the latter, was it a suicide attack or just plain suicide?

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as TheSociopath who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to kill the Titans in the first place as revenge for his son's death ([[MisplacedRetribution which wasn't even their fault]]) and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Modern adaptations of this story tend to make Deathstroke the more evil of the two and excise the sexual relationship entirely.

* ValuesDissonance: It's seen as Terra's fault for being an irredeemable BitchInSheepsClothing, who is so evil that at sixteen she sleeps with a man thirty years her senior. In 2003, Changeling was back to calling out Slade for his part in hurting Terra. In the modern 2010s, their relationship would be called a form of grooming, and in both the DTV adaptation and ComicBook/DCRebirth ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}}'' series, it is flat-out portrayed as such.

* AdaptationDisplacement: More people are familiar with its adaptation from ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' than this comic; also applied as AdaptationalHeroism.

* KarmicOverkill: This is the reason why the story has become so divisive over the years. The story depicts Terra, a teenage girl, as TheSociopath who [[ForTheEvulz reveled in her deeds]]. She ends up being killed when she loses control of her powers while ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} is treated as a sympathetic AntiVillain. This is despite the fact that Deathstroke is the one who came up with the plan to kill the Titans in the first place as revenge for his son's death ([[MisplacedRetribution which wasn't even their fault]]) and was in a sexual relationship with Terra, a girl young enough to be his daughter. Modern adaptations of this story tend to excise the sexual relationship between the two and make Deathstroke the more evil of the two.

* UnfortunateImplications: As detailed in [[http://historiesofthingstocome.blogspot.com/search/label/Terra the blogger tamaranorbust's thorough, multi-part study on Terra,]] creator Marv Wolfman was so determined to make her as [[ForTheEvulz irredeemably evil]] as possible that he ended up writing a whole ''host'' of these, including, but not limited to:
** Terra's sexual affair with Slade, which the creators [[WordOfGod have confirmed]] was meant to shock the readers over [[SlutShaming what a slut]] ''[[SlutShaming she]]'' [[SlutShaming was]]. Wolfman would later admit that this was a mistake, and more recent writers have attempted to retcon this.
** Having a mentally unbalanced teenager commit suicide -- and then make it, and every other bad thing that happened in the story, ''her'' fault.
** Making Deathstroke a sympathetic character and Terra a two-dimensional raving lunatic -- even though it was his plan Terra was following, Deathstroke was a killer himself and he was using her as a pawn.

** Gar crying during Terra's funeral was meant to be one of the saddest moments of the comic, but he is drawn off-model, with one eye considerably bigger than the other and the pupils looking at opposite directions. The bizarre expression constrasts with the somberness of the priest's eulogy and makes the scene much funnier than it should be.

* AnticlimaxBoss: And so, after all this, the Titans go after the leader of the H.I.V.E., to end that group once and for all. And that leader is... that lovely granny?

* ValuesDissonance: It's seen as Terra's fault for being an irredeemable BitchInSheepsClothing, who is so evil that at sixteen she sleeps with a man thirty years her senior. In 2003, Changeling was back to calling out Slade for his part in hurting Terra. In the modern 2010s, their relationship would be called a form of grooming, and in both the DTV adaptation and ''ComicBook/DeathstrokeRebirth'', it is flat-out portrayed as such.

* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Dick's transformation into Nightwing.

* IdiotBall: Deathstroke has been accused of holding one when he tries to capture Dick Grayson, arguably the most dangerous Titan, by jumping through a window and fighting him hand-to-hand, instead of setting a clever trap of some kind like he did to all the other Titans. Adeline even points this out as she watches in secret:
-->'''Adeline:''' He must be desperate... Fighting like that in public. Slade's been getting sloppy.

* {{Narm}}: Some of Deathstroke's methods of capturing the Titans are... very old-school villain-y. His method of capturing Gar stands out: A massive pile of drugged envelopes, knowing Gar (attention junkie he is) will personally lick each envelope shut, ''eventually'' absorbing enough of the drug to knock him out. What makes it more baffling is Slade turns out to be waiting in the room once Gar finally passes out, and could've used any other method. Exactly what Slade would've done if Gar hadn't felt the need to answer all his fan mail at that exact time is unclear.

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--> He must be desperate ... fighting like that in public. Slade’s been getting sloppy.

* UnfortunateImplications:
** As detailed in [[http://historiesofthingstocome.blogspot.com/search/label/Terra the blogger tamaranorbust's thorough, multi-part study on Terra,]] creator Marv Wolfman was so determined to make her as [[ForTheEvulz irredeemably evil]] as possible that he ended up writing a whole ''host'' of these, including, but not limited to:
*** Terra's sexual affair with Slade, which the creators [[WordOfGod have confirmed]] was meant to shock the readers over [[SlutShaming what a slut]] ''[[SlutShaming she]]'' [[SlutShaming was]]. Wolfman would later admit that this was a mistake, and more recent writers have attempted to retcon this.
*** Having a mentally unbalanced teenager commit suicide -- and then make it, and every other bad thing that happened in the story, ''her'' fault.
*** Making Deathstroke a sympathetic character and Terra a two-dimensional raving lunatic -- even though it was his plan Terra was following, Deathstroke was a killer himself and he was using her as a pawn.
* ValuesDissonance: It's seen as Terra's fault for being an irredeemable BitchInSheepsClothing, who is so evil that at sixteen she sleeps with a man thirty years her senior. In 2003, Changeling was back to calling out Slade for his part in hurting Terra. In the modern 2010s, their relationship would be called a form of grooming, and in both the DTV adaptation and ''ComicBook/DeathstrokeRebirth'', it is flat-out portrayed as such.

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Seeking revenge on others will only eat up the person on the inside and cause long-term harm. Deathstroke took the contract to avenge his son, but in the end it gets the Titans and his family gunning for him, and Terra literally ''dies'' in a mad attempt to get revenge on the Titans, trying to collapse the building on them and only managing to crush herself. Beast Boy nearly completes the RuleOfThree by seeking revenge on Slade ...only to realize that he can't kill a man who won't put up a fight, and that he's throwing his life and hero status away to avenge a dead girl.
** You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved, and sometimes a person you thought you could trust may ultimately choose a RedemptionRejection.

* ValuesDissonance: It's seen as Terra's fault for being an un-redeemable BitchInSheepsClothing, who is so evil that at sixteen she sleeps with a man thirty years her senior. In 2003, Changeling was back to calling out Slade for his part in hurting Terra. In the modern 2010s, their relationship would be called a form of grooming, and in both the DTV adaptation and ''ComicBook/DeathstrokeRebirth'', it is flat-out portrayed as such.

* ShockingMoments: In the context of Wolfman's New Teen Titans run: Deathstroke is finally beaten but not before completing his contract on the Titans (one of the series longest standing subplots up to that point), Terra plays her hand as a traitor then dies, Deathstrokes origins are revealed including a wife and second son who ends up joining the team, and finally Dick Grayson graduates from the old red and yellows and becomes Nightwing.

* {{HSQ}}: In the context of Wolfman's New Teen Titans run: Deathstroke is finally beaten but not before completing his contract on the Titans (one of the series longest standing subplots up to that point), Terra plays her hand as a traitor then dies, Deathstrokes origins are revealed including a wife and second son who ends up joining the team, and finally Dick Grayson graduates from the old red and yellows and becomes Nightwing.

* {{HSQ}}: In the context of Wolfman's New Teen Titans run: Deathstroke is finally beaten but not before completeing his contract on the Titans (one of the series longest standing subplots up to that point), Terra plays her hand as a traitor then dies, Deathstrokes origins are revealed including a wife and second son who ends up joining the team, and finally Dick Grayson graduates from the old red and yellows and becomes Nightwing.