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** The show tries to depict Rebecca as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with the FreudianExcuse of her parents selling her out and ending up in a mental institution. She was always AxCrazy and believed that MurderIsTheBestSolution. The only reason she was in the BedlamHouse in the first place is because she tried to use her powers to kill one of her school teachers never showing the slightest bit of remorse, then killed her terrified parents when they called Sentinel Services. When she escaped after her MoralEventHorizon instead of just running away she tried to kill the Inner Circle. Rebecca is a BrokenAesop to the shows stance of FantasticRacism because she basically personifies EverythingIsRacist. If she wasn’t a mutant she would be considered a CompleteMonster.
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** Evangeline Whedon is resumably uncerimously killed offscreen without her ever turning into a dragon, and with very little screentime.

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** Evangeline Whedon is resumably uncerimously presumably unceremoniously killed offscreen without her ever turning into a dragon, and with very little screentime.
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* MemeticMutation: Andy Warhol [[labelnote:Explanation]]Andy's season 2 hairstyle reminds many people this artist. Even Percy Hynes White acknowledges the resemblance, actually considering using Andy Warhol as a Halloween costume.[[/labelnote]]

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* MemeticMutation: Andy Warhol [[labelnote:Explanation]]Andy's season 2 hairstyle reminds many people of this artist. Even Percy Hynes White acknowledges the resemblance, actually considering using Andy Warhol as a Halloween costume.[[/labelnote]]
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** Despite being [[ComicBooks/DaysOfFuturePast an evil mutant hunter]], no one expected Ahab considering he is closely associated with Rachel Summers and the contemporary setting of the show.

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** Despite being [[ComicBooks/DaysOfFuturePast [[ComicBook/DaysOfFuturePast an evil mutant hunter]], no one expected Ahab considering he is closely associated with Rachel Summers and the contemporary setting of the show.
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* CompleteMonster: [[FantasticRacism Benedict Ryan]] is the most recognized anti-mutant TV news host in America, and is secretly the leader of the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Purifiers]], an anti-mutant hate militia. He would have the Purifiers persecute mutants all over the country, having them tortured and killed while using his show to praise their atrocities and persuade the public to commit similar acts of violence towards mutants. [[BigBadDuumvirate Collaborating]] with [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Reeva Payge]] in orchestrating a war between humanity and mutants, he would use the intelligence given to by Reeva about Morlock's sanctuary to lead the massacre their killing numerous mutants, [[WouldHurtAChild children included]], while he would give Reeva intel about highly-populated human areas, leading to high casualties on that front as well.

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* CompleteMonster: [[FantasticRacism Benedict Ryan]] is the most recognized anti-mutant TV news host in America, and is secretly the leader of the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Purifiers]], an anti-mutant hate militia. He would have the Purifiers persecute mutants all over the country, having them tortured and killed while using his show to praise their atrocities and persuade the public to commit similar acts of violence towards mutants. [[BigBadDuumvirate Collaborating]] with [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Reeva Payge]] in orchestrating a war between humanity and mutants, he would use the intelligence given to by Reeva about Morlock's sanctuary to lead the massacre their there killing numerous mutants, [[WouldHurtAChild children included]], while he would give Reeva intel about highly-populated human areas, leading to high casualties on that front as well.
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* CompleteMonster: [[FantasticRacism Benedict Ryan]] is the most recognized anti-mutant TV news host in America, and is secretly the leader of the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Purifiers]], an anti-mutant hate militia. He would have the Purifiers persecute mutants all over the country, having them tortured and killed while using his show to praise their atrocities and persuade the public to commit similar acts of violence towards mutants. [[BigBadDuumvirate Collaborating]] with [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Reeva Payge]] in orchestrating a war between humanity and mutants, he would use the intelligence given to by Reeva about Morlock's sanctuary to lead the massacre their killing numerous mutants, [[WouldHurtAChild children included]], while he would give Reeva intel about highly-populated human areas, leading to high casualties on that front as well.
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** Evangeline Whedon is resumably uncerimously killed offscreen without her ever turning into a dragon, and with very little screentime.
** Sage is killed off in season 2, and was a background character for most of it.
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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves. He hasn’t gotten much better in Season 2, especially after getting involved with the Purifiers. And keep in mind all of this happened [[spoiler:before he killed off Clarice]].

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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves. He hasn’t gotten much better in Season 2, especially after getting involved with the Purifiers. And keep in mind all of this happened [[spoiler:before he killed off gunned down Clarice]].
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** Josh Schwartz and Creator/PeterGallagher, who worked together on Series/TheOC, are now [[DuelingWorks currently on two different]] Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}} shows. Josh Schwartz has been running, [[AccidentalPun ahem]], Series/Runaways2017 during the same time The Gifted has been running, though Peter joined the latter show during Season 2.

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** Josh Schwartz and Creator/PeterGallagher, Peter Gallagher, who worked together on Series/TheOC, are now [[DuelingWorks currently on two different]] Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}} shows. Josh Schwartz has been running, [[AccidentalPun ahem]], Series/Runaways2017 during the same time The Gifted has been running, though Peter joined the latter show during Season 2.
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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves. He hasn’t gotten much better in Season 2, especially after getting involved with the Purifiers.

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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves. He hasn’t gotten much better in Season 2, especially after getting involved with the Purifiers. And keep in mind all of this happened [[spoiler:before he killed off Clarice]].
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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves.

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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves. He hasn’t gotten much better in Season 2, especially after getting involved with the Purifiers.

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* JerkassWoobie: Jace Turner is actively aiding in the unfair oppression of mutants but it's hard to not understand ''why'' when you learn [[spoiler: his daughter died because of an escalation at a Pro-Mutant Rally. ''Even more so'' after Dreamer accidentally takes away the memory of losing her and he has to learn it from his wife all over again.]]

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** Josh Schwartz and Creator/PeterGallagher, who worked together on Series/TheOC, are now [[DuelingWorks currently on two different]] Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}} shows. Josh Schwartz has been running, [[AccidentalPun ahem]], Series/Runaways2017 during the same time The Gifted has been running, though Peter joined the latter show during Season 2.
* JerkassWoobie: Jace Turner is actively aiding in the unfair oppression of mutants but it's hard to not understand ''why'' when you learn [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his daughter died because of an escalation at a Pro-Mutant Rally. ''Even more so'' after Dreamer accidentally takes away the memory of losing her and he has to learn it from his wife all over again.]]



** While many things Sentinel Services did prior to that were already pretty extreme, they always somewhat remained in WellIntentionedExtremist territory. This changes after John and Clarice [[spoiler: come to the latters old foster home and find out that the innocent family was murdered by their agents]].

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** While many things Sentinel Services did prior to that were already pretty extreme, they always somewhat remained in WellIntentionedExtremist territory. This changes after John and Clarice [[spoiler: come [[spoiler:come to the latters old foster home and find out that the innocent family was murdered by their agents]].



** [[spoiler:Lorna]] arguably crosses it too. Not for the fact that she decides to kill [[spoiler:[[AssholeVictim Senator Montez and Dr. Campbell]]]], but for [[spoiler: willingly destroying an entire plane, full of people who have nothing to do with them]] to do so.

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** [[spoiler:Lorna]] arguably crosses it too. Not for the fact that she decides to kill [[spoiler:[[AssholeVictim Senator Montez and Dr. Campbell]]]], but for [[spoiler: willingly [[spoiler:willingly destroying an entire plane, full of people who have nothing to do with them]] to do so.



* MemeticMutation: Andy Warhol [[labelnote: Explanation]]Andy's season 2 hairstyle reminds many people this artist. Even Percy Hynes White acknowledges the resemblance, actually considering using Andy Warhol as a Halloween costume.[[/labelnote]]

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** Reeva Payge's ruthlessness [[FreudianExcuse may be understandable]] given the murder of her best friend, but there's no defending the increasingly horrific measures she takes as leader of the Inner Circle, including the recruitment of serial killers to her ranks, having the leadership of the Mutant Underground killed, and the reveal that [[PlayingBothSides she has been working with]] [[PompousPoliticalPundit far-right shock jock Benedict Ryan]] and feeding him information on other mutants to relay to the Purifiers to keep a civil war going at the expense of other mutants. She reaches a new low with the latter by sending them information about [[TeamSwitzerland the Morlocks]], resulting in them either murdered by the Purifiers or evacuated by Blink, and Blink herself getting shot down before she can escape.
* MemeticMutation: Andy Warhol [[labelnote: Explanation]]Andy's [[labelnote:Explanation]]Andy's season 2 hairstyle reminds many people this artist. Even Percy Hynes White acknowledges the resemblance, actually considering using Andy Warhol as a Halloween costume.[[/labelnote]]
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* FanPreferredCouple: Most fans who care about shipping prefer Marcos/Glow over Marcos/Lorna. This is due to Marcos and Glow having good chemistry and similar powers, while thinking Marcos and Lorna shouldn't be together after Lorna left to join the Inner Circle, giving Marcos a lot of grief.
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They have a small age difference and seventeen is a legal age in many states so how is this squick? There was also already a squick section anyway.


* {{Squick}}: While not noticeable on the first viewing, Rebecca's actress, Anjelica Fellini, turned twenty-four during the airing of the second season. Her making out with Percy Hynes White, seventeen at the time of filming, came off as creepy rather than cute.
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* {{Squick}}: While not noticeable on the first viewing, Rebecca's actress, Anjelica Fellini, turned twenty-four during the airing of the second season. Her making out with Percy Hynes White, seventeen at the time of filming, came off as creepy rather than cute.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' fans would recognize Roderick Campbell as Cromartie and John Henry from ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''.
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** With all their money and success, it's no wonder why everyone adores the Inner Circle.
** Rebecca Hoover, Twist, lives up to her description of a "sociopath who lives for chaos," yet she has won the hearts of many fans. It helps that her actress is among the most well-received in the young cast.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: You're not going to find many fans on the side of Sentinel Services, however [[spoiler: the Frost sisters (who are painted in the show as very extreme, to the point of not caring about killing children) do have a lot of fans. Some were actually ''glad'' when Lorna joined their side and took out the plane carrying Dr. Campbell and Senator Montez (and the repeated reminders that there were also a lot of innocent people on the plane seem to specifically be put in because the crew was well aware no one would buy killing these two as any kind of irredeemable action). A lot of does come from the dire situation mutants are (in a level that's extreme, even for this franchise) and the Mutant Underground making no headway in the fight and just hiding.]]
** Reeva's speech from the ComicCon season 2 trailer about how trying to live peacefully with those who'd destroy you on the basis of your species won't work also sounds pretty reasonable given the above. (Also, [[EvilIsCool she's just really stylish]].)

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You're not going to find many fans on the side of Sentinel Services, however [[spoiler: the Frost sisters (who are painted in the show as very extreme, to the point of not caring about killing children) do have a lot of fans. Some were actually ''glad'' when Lorna joined their side and took out the plane carrying Dr. Campbell and Senator Montez (and the repeated reminders that there were also a lot of innocent people on the plane seem to specifically be put in because the crew was well aware no one would buy killing these two as any kind of irredeemable action). A lot of does come from the dire situation mutants are (in a level that's extreme, even for this franchise) and the Mutant Underground making no headway in the fight and just hiding.]]
** Reeva's speech from the ComicCon Comic Con season 2 trailer about how trying to live peacefully with those who'd destroy you on the basis of your species won't work also sounds pretty reasonable given the above. (Also, [[EvilIsCool she's just really stylish]].))
** In general, many fans found themsmelves siding with the Inner Circle in Season 2, mostly because they are actually ''successful'' in what they do, while the Underground is more or less presented as [[FailureHero being ineffective in what they try do accomplish]].

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* NarmCharm: Polaris and Eclipse's romantic moment culminating in Aurora Borealis is cheesy as all get out (particularly when Polaris makes a point to mention the magnetosphere. [[MythologyGag GET IT?!]]) but at the same time, it's quite beautiful.

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Polaris and Eclipse's romantic moment culminating in Aurora Borealis is cheesy as all get out (particularly when Polaris makes a point to mention the magnetosphere. [[MythologyGag GET IT?!]]) but at the same time, it's quite beautiful.beautiful.
** The first scene of the bank heist in Episode 7 of the second season has some very overblown rock music in it, that makes the entire thing cheesy, but also extremely entertaining.
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** Rebecca might have crossed it beforehand, but she really does it when [[spoiler:turns a room of people inside out, against the orders of the Inner Circle. And only smiles at their horrified faces]].

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** Rebecca might have crossed it beforehand, but she really does it when [[spoiler:turns a room of people inside out, against the orders of the Inner Circle. And only smiles at their [[EvenEvilHasStandards horrified faces]].faces]]]].
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** Rebecca might have crossed it beforehand, but she really does it when [[spoiler:turns a room of people inside out, against the orders of the Inner Circle. And only smiles at their horrified faces]].
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** Every single time Reeva uses her power. Between the actress' downright goofy facial expression, the simplistic visual effect, and the seriously non-intimidating sound, it never once feels like anything that should be as big a danger as it is.
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* UnfortunateImplications: When Marcos is explaining the Inner Circle to a new acquaintance and she says that what they're doing doesn't sound bad, he responds by comparing them to Hitler. This includes Lorna, whose father is arguably the most famous Jewish character in comics.
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Seriously reekks of Draco In Leather Pants. She still killed a bunch of people, and it wasn't a simple rescue mission, the staff was injured and killed. They onlyy rescued Rebecca and just left the rest. Plus, she directly works together with Reeva and the Frost Sisters, so she is compliciit in their actions as well


* DesignatedVillain: A lot of the times, Lorna. Despite the attempts to paint her as an extremist, it's hard not to note that she has a point that the mutant underground wasn't actually doing much to help mutants. She brought down an entire plane to kill Campbell and Montez...but it was clearly a private plane, not a commercial one, with few, if any, people on it that were unconnected to the people she was trying to kill. She fought John and Clarice...when they came after her at the mental hospital when she was just there to rescue a mutant, not hurt anyone.
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* TheScrappy: Jace Turner. Aside from everything mentioned in UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, people have grown bored with his repetitive story. Many have called him unnecessary and redundant now, as bigger, stronger and more interesting threats present themselves.
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After having a discussion, I'm readding it. Sorry for the trouble.

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* UnfortunateImplications: When Marcos is explaining the Inner Circle to a new acquaintance and she says that what they're doing doesn't sound bad, he responds by comparing them to Hitler. This includes Lorna, whose father is arguably the most famous Jewish character in comics.
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Do you really think that this would be the first time Magneto has been compared to Hitler? Besides you are reaching just a little bit. I mean I don't think Marcos was lumping the woman he still loves in the inner circle and even if he was, I don't think her father's background would affect her in that way. I'm sorry if I'm not making sense.


* UnfortunateImplications: When Marcos is explaining the Inner Circle to a new acquaintance and she says that what they're doing doesn't sound bad, he responds by comparing them to Hitler. This includes Lorna, whose father is arguably the most famous Jewish character in comics.
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* UnfortunateImplications: When Marcos is explaining the Inner Circle to a new acquaintance and she says that what they're doing doesn't sound bad, he responds by comparing them to Hitler. This includes Lorna, whose father is arguably the most famous Jewish character in comics.
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* MemeticMutation: Andy Warhol [[labelnote: Explanation]]Andy's season 2 hairstyle reminds many people this artist. Even Percy Hynes White acknowledges the resemblance, actually considering using Andy Warhol as a Halloween costume.[[/labelnote]]
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* DesignatedVillain: A lot of the times, Lorna. Despite the attempts to paint her as an extremist, it's hard not to note that she has a point that the mutant underground wasn't actually doing much to help mutants. She brought down an entire plane to kill Campbell and Montez...but it was clearly a private plane, not a commercial one, with few, if any, people on it that were unconnected to the people she was trying to kill. She fought John and Clarice...when they came after her at the mental hospital when she was just there to rescue a mutant, not hurt anyone.

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