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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UnintentionalUncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too "perfect" and constantly form-fitting.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UnintentionalUncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too "perfect" and constantly form-fitting.
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* {{Narm}}: Karli's [[OpenMouthInsertFoot very poor choice of words]] to John. Claiming she doesn't want to hurt people that "don't matter" is incredibly shallow, even if she is supposedly going off the deep end. And when Walker angrily asks her if she doesn't think that Lemar's life mattered, she [[DiggingYourselfDeeper makes it even worse]].
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UnintentionallyUncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too "perfect" and constantly form-fitting.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UnintentionallyUncannyValley UnintentionalUncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too "perfect" and constantly form-fitting.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too "perfect" and constantly form-fitting.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UncannyValley UnintentionallyUncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too "perfect" and constantly form-fitting.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.
** The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too 'perfect' and constantly form fitting.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.
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charisma. The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too 'perfect' "perfect" and constantly form fitting.form-fitting.
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** The [[https://youtu.be/XQ2ImdWPM-c behind-the-scenes footage shows]] that the half-cowl is partially CGI, as no fabric or leather in the world could stretch, flex, and perfectly hug the face the way comic book costumes always do. The real thing would constantly be creasing, separating from the cheeks, or bunching up whenever Mackie moved his head, so some VFX had to be used to ensure it always stayed snug and seamless. That probably created a bit of an UncannyValley effect, as we the audience might have noticed the costume is a little too 'perfect' and constantly form fitting.
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YMMV and all but the wide response I've seen is that Walker was not nearly redeemed enough.


* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: This episode went a long way towards redeeming John Walker in the eyes of many viewers by having him join forces with Sam and Bucky and helping save the hostages, even ditching his shield and forgoing his quest for revenge to do so. When Val gives him a new unique suit and dubs him US Agent, it's hard ''not'' to feel happy for him as he celebrates being back in the game.
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Edited the entry to emphasize the unexpected good things he does in the episode. I think it's not surprising that he joins the battle against the Flagsmashers since he wanted to kill Karli.


* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: This episode went a long way towards redeeming John Walker in the eyes of many viewers by having him join the final battle against the Flagsmashers and attempting to save the hostages, even ditching his shield to do so. When Val gives him a new unique suit and dubs him US Agent, it's hard ''not'' to feel happy for him as he celebrates being back in the game.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: This episode went a long way towards redeeming John Walker in the eyes of many viewers by having him join the final battle against the Flagsmashers forces with Sam and attempting to Bucky and helping save the hostages, even ditching his shield and forgoing his quest for revenge to do so. When Val gives him a new unique suit and dubs him US Agent, it's hard ''not'' to feel happy for him as he celebrates being back in the game.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: This episode went a long way towards redeeming John Walker in the eyes of many viewers by having him join the final battle against the Flagsmashers and attempting to save the hostages, even ditching his shield to do so. When Val gives him a new unique suit and dubs him US Agent, it's hard ''not'' to feel happy for him as he celebrates being back in the game.
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Citation needed.


* UnfortunateImplications: Walker back going out in his Captain America costume to fight the Flag Smashers (completely unauthorized, mind you) gets no reprimand or even a comment from Sam, Bucky, or the American government. Sam and Bucky don't mention the time he tried to kill them and they broke his arm (a.k.a. one episode ago), and Walker's new job as the U.S. Agent has him essentially back as Captain America with a new coat of paint and employers, as if the time he killed a helpless man in front of cameras and nearly caused an international crisis (a.k.a. two episodes ago) didn't lead to the government seriously curtailing his future activities and potential employment, especially considering his behavior, status as a super soldier, and lack of remorse. All this adds up to the implication that not only were Walker's crimes ignored or even forgiven without him properly redeeming himself, it also looks like he's being rewarded, not punished, for being a reckless loose cannon. This unfortunately parallels many real-life incidents of police officers murdering black men and women, and then being let go or even promoted due to a lack accountability in their respective departments.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Walker back going out in his Captain America costume to fight the Flag Smashers (completely unauthorized, mind you) gets no reprimand or even a comment from Sam, Bucky, or the American government. Sam and Bucky don't mention the time he tried to kill them and they broke his arm (a.k.a. one episode ago), and Walker's new job as the U.S. Agent has him essentially back as Captain America with a new coat of paint and employers, as if the time he killed a helpless man in front of cameras and nearly caused an international crisis (a.k.a. two episodes ago) didn't lead to the government seriously curtailing his future activities and potential employment, especially considering his behavior, status as a super soldier, and lack of remorse. All this adds up to the implication that not only were Walker's crimes ignored or even forgiven without him properly redeeming himself, it also looks like he's being rewarded, not punished, for being a reckless loose cannon. This unfortunately parallels many real-life incidents of police officers murdering black men and women, and then being let go or even promoted due to a lack accountability in their respective departments.
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Karmic Death is not YMMV.


* KarmicDeath: The remaining Flag-Smashers get killed via a car bomb, which is exactly what started their descent into villainy.
* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.

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* KarmicDeath: The remaining Flag-Smashers get killed via a car bomb, which is exactly what started their descent into villainy.
* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.charisma.
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the many of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the many majority of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.
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* KarmicDeath: The remaining Flag-Smashers get killed via a car bomb, which is exactly what started their descent into villainy.
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the many of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the many of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/TheAvengers2012''), and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the many of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/Avengers2012'', and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around his head. That being said, the many of Steve Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/Avengers2012'', ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls off the look with his confidence and charisma.
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around the head. That being said, the same could be said of the various Steve Rogers suits, and Anthony Mackie pulls it off with his confidence and charisma.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around the his head. That being said, the same could be said many of the various Steve Rogers suits, Rogers' suits looked goofy as well (particularly the one in ''Film/Avengers2012'', and much like Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie pulls it off the look with his confidence and charisma.
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially around the head. That being said, the same could be said of the various Steve Rogers suits, and Anthony Mackie pulls it off with his confidence and charisma.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially with that helmet-less half-cowl around the head. That being said, the same could be said of the various Steve Rogers suits, and Anthony Mackie pulls it off with his confidence and charisma.
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Not YMMV


* MemeAcknowledgement: One of the reporters asks Sam if he's [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]].
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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially around the head. That being said, the same could be said of the various Steve Rogers Captain America suits, and Anthony Mackie's confidence allows him to pull it off.

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* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially around the head. That being said, the same could be said of the various Steve Rogers Captain America suits, and Anthony Mackie's Mackie pulls it off with his confidence allows him to pull it off.and charisma.
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* MemeAcknowledgement: One of the reporters asks Sam if he's [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]].

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* MemeAcknowledgement: One of the reporters asks Sam if he's [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]].Falcon]].
* NarmCharm: Sam's new suit is remarkably faithful to the one he used in the comics, but the dominant white color scheme looks a little bit goofy, especially around the head. That being said, the same could be said of the various Steve Rogers Captain America suits, and Anthony Mackie's confidence allows him to pull it off.
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* MemeAcknowledgement: One of the reporters asks Sam if he's [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]].

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