Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / TheClique

Go To

OR

Added: 349

Changed: 1927

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Example does not sufficiently explain how it applies, Misplaced, moving to the correct tab


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Are Claire, Dylan and Kristen bullies or bully ''victims'' who play along with Massie and Alicia because they're so afraid of them? The final books in the series very strongly hint towards this.
** Alicia and her cousin Nina's implied, promiscuousness and strange behavior is a result of sexual abuse.
** Massie is a sociopath and/or mentally ill.
** Dylan has a developing eating disorder.

to:

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
**
AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Are Claire, Dylan and Kristen bullies or bully ''victims'' who play along with Massie and Alicia because they're so afraid of them? The final books in the series very strongly hint towards this.
** %%** Alicia and her cousin Nina's implied, implied promiscuousness and strange behavior is a result of sexual abuse.
**
abuse. %%why? what is canon's stance on this? is there any evidence? etc.
%%**
Massie is a sociopath and/or mentally ill.
**
ill. %% why?
%%**
Dylan has a developing eating disorder.disorder. %%why?
* BrokenAesop: The story often flip flops between elaborating on the true meaning of friendship and how the concept of controlling, social hierarchies and cliques is inherently toxic, while at the same time allowing the titular clique that embodies these flaws never face any karma for their misdeeds, no matter how drastic or scarring they may be.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Disturbingly, Massie and Alicia get a lot of this (mostly by younger fans).
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Layne, to many who dislike {{Alpha Bitch}}es in general.
** Claire, in the first couple books, before she [[BecomingTheMask became the mask]].

to:

* DiagnosedByTheAudience:
** Massie shows several classic traits of [[TheSociopath sociopathy]], such as her reliance on emotional manipulation and bullying to get her way, viewing almost everyone around as merely pawns to her social status, and her obsession with always being on the top regardless of who she has to hurt to get there. There's a WMG detailing it, though it's unknown if she was intentionally written that way.
** Alicia trusts ''nobody'', is willing to backstab ''anyone'', and wants nothing more than to be the center of attention at all costs. And is also occasionally implied to be sexually active. At 12-13. %%What disorder?
%%*
DracoInLeatherPants: Disturbingly, Massie and Alicia get a lot of this (mostly by younger fans).
*
fans). %%how are they perceived and how are they, actually?
%%*
EnsembleDarkhorse:
** %%** Layne, to many who dislike {{Alpha Bitch}}es in general.
** %%** Claire, in the first couple books, before she [[BecomingTheMask became the mask]].



* GrowingTheBeard: Starting with ''These Boots are Made for Stalking'' and ''My Little Phony''. There's more meaningful character development (particularly with Claire, Massie, and Layne and Cam) compared to most of the other books and a lot of the {{Flanderization}} that was going on gets undone - in particular, the characters actually start to ''mature'' and Claire finally grows out of letting Massie remold her into yet another PC clone and tries to stand up to her. In short, the series finally becomes the series people were actually expecting/hoping for. Unfortunately, it came too little too late, in the third-to-last and second-to-last books out of a nearly two-dozen long-running series most people want to forget.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Starting with ''These Boots are Made for Stalking'' and ''My Little Phony''. There's more meaningful character development (particularly with Claire, Massie, and Layne and Cam) compared to most of the other books and a lot of the {{Flanderization}} that was going on gets undone - -- in particular, the characters actually start to ''mature'' and Claire finally grows out of letting Massie remold her into yet another PC clone and tries to stand up to her. In short, the series finally becomes the series people were actually expecting/hoping for. Unfortunately, it came too little too late, in the third-to-last and second-to-last books out of a nearly two-dozen long-running series most people want to forget.


Added DiffLines:

%%* ParodyRetcon: When the series suffered major backlash in TheNewTens, the author made several posts about it online that ''strongly'' come across as this trope. %%explain how??
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Gag Boobs was renamed to Boob Based Gag. It's for comedy based on boobs, not "big boobs exist".


** The implication that Alicia's breasts are implants. As well as the hints that she might be sexually active. Some find the idea of a preteen girl with GagBoobs in general to be this.

to:

** The implication that Alicia's breasts are implants. As well as the hints that she might be sexually active. Some find the idea of a preteen girl with GagBoobs a chest that large in general to be this.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Requires Word Of God confirmation


* AuthorsSavingThrow: The fact that anything resembling CharacterDevelopment happens very late into the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Cam is rightfully grossed out when he finds out Alicia (a fellow seventh grader) wants to go out with his older brother, Harris, who is in his junior year of high school.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Starting with ''These Boots are Made for Stalking'' and ''My Little Phony''. There's more meaningful character development (particularly with Claire, Massie, and Layne and Cam) compared to most of the other books and a lot of the {{Flanderization}} that was going on gets undone - in particular, the characters actually start to ''mature'' and Claire finally grows out of letting Massie remold her into yet another PC clone and tries to stand up to her. In short, the series finally becomes the series people were actually expecting/hoping for. Unfortunately, it came too little too late, in the third-to-last and second-to-last books out of a nearly two-dozen long running series most people want to forget.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Starting with ''These Boots are Made for Stalking'' and ''My Little Phony''. There's more meaningful character development (particularly with Claire, Massie, and Layne and Cam) compared to most of the other books and a lot of the {{Flanderization}} that was going on gets undone - in particular, the characters actually start to ''mature'' and Claire finally grows out of letting Massie remold her into yet another PC clone and tries to stand up to her. In short, the series finally becomes the series people were actually expecting/hoping for. Unfortunately, it came too little too late, in the third-to-last and second-to-last books out of a nearly two-dozen long running long-running series most people want to forget.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Starting with ''These Boots are Made for Stalking'' and ''My Little Phony''. There's more meaningful character development (particularly with Claire, Massie, and Layne and Cam) compared to most of the other books and a lot of the Flanderization that was going on gets undone - in particular, the characters actually start to ''mature'' and Claire finally grows out of letting Massie remold her into yet another PC clone and tries to stand up to her. In short, the series finally becomes the series people were actually expecting/hoping for. Unfortunately, it came too little too late, in the third-to-last and second-to-last books out of a nearly two-dozen long running series most people want to forget.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Starting with ''These Boots are Made for Stalking'' and ''My Little Phony''. There's more meaningful character development (particularly with Claire, Massie, and Layne and Cam) compared to most of the other books and a lot of the Flanderization {{Flanderization}} that was going on gets undone - in particular, the characters actually start to ''mature'' and Claire finally grows out of letting Massie remold her into yet another PC clone and tries to stand up to her. In short, the series finally becomes the series people were actually expecting/hoping for. Unfortunately, it came too little too late, in the third-to-last and second-to-last books out of a nearly two-dozen long running series most people want to forget.

Added: 96

Removed: 116

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Now that more is known about eating disorders, nearly everything about Dylan has become this.


Added DiffLines:

** Now that more is known about eating disorders, nearly everything about Dylan has become this.

Changed: 142

Removed: 102

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Were Still Relevant Dammit is not a trope anymore


* LoveToHate: Massie and Alicia were presumably meant to be this.

to:

* %%* LoveToHate: Massie and Alicia were presumably meant to be this.



** Nina, especially when you [[FridgeHorror think about her a bit]].

to:

** %%** Nina, especially when you [[FridgeHorror think about her a bit]].



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some people's reaction to ''Kristen'' in the Summer Collection.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some think this could've worked better as a straight {{Deconstruction}} or a BlackComedy.

to:

* %%* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some people's reaction to ''Kristen'' in the Summer Collection.
* %%* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some think this could've worked better as a straight {{Deconstruction}} or a BlackComedy.



* ToyShip: They're 11-13, all of the ships are like this.

to:

* %%* ToyShip: They're 11-13, all of the ships are like this.



* {{Wangst}}: Dylan and her weight.
%%* WereStillRelevantDammit: Which is why this series probably won't get a revival anytime soon.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Believe it or not, the target audience for this was preteen girls. ...yeah.

to:

* %%* {{Wangst}}: Dylan and her weight.
%%* WereStillRelevantDammit: Which is why this series probably won't get a revival anytime soon.
*
WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Believe it or not, the target audience for this was preteen girls. ...yeah.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HardToAdaptWork: Despite its popularity in the 2000s, the premise and writing of the series makes it difficult to adapt. It's an {{indecisive parody}} told from the point-of-view of a ''middle school-aged'' AlphaBitch and her GirlPosse. The characters are unsympathetic and regularly exhibit {{troubling unchildlike behavior}}. It's not family-friendly enough for mainstream adaptations, so the only adaptation was a niche direct-to-video film.

to:

* HardToAdaptWork: Despite its popularity in the 2000s, the premise and writing of the series makes it difficult to adapt. It's an {{indecisive parody}} IndecisiveParody told from the point-of-view of a ''middle school-aged'' AlphaBitch and her GirlPosse. The characters are unsympathetic and regularly exhibit {{troubling unchildlike behavior}}. TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior. It's not family-friendly enough for mainstream adaptations, so the only adaptation was a niche direct-to-video DirectToVideo film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Now that more is known about eating disorders, nearly everything about Dylan has become this.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Needs context


* WereStillRelevantDammit: Which is why this series probably won't get a revival anytime soon.

to:

* %%* WereStillRelevantDammit: Which is why this series probably won't get a revival anytime soon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* UncannyValley: The photos on the covers of the books look really...off.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Now that more is known about eating disorders, nearly everything about Dylan has become this.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: It's ''very'' clear this series was envisioned before [[TurnOfTheMillennium The Great Recession]] came along. Pretty much everything about it displays the materialistic excesses of 2000s pop culture.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Believe it or not, the target audience for this was preteen girls. ...yeah.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TooBleakStoppedCaring: A common complaint about the series, mostly due to the ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and unsympathetic characters. The fact that nobody suffered in the end apparently angered quite a few readers. And anything even ''remotely'' resembling CharacterDevelopment happens so late in the series you wonder why the author even bothered.

to:

* TooBleakStoppedCaring: A common complaint about the series, mostly due to the ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and unsympathetic characters. The fact that [[KarmaHoudini nobody suffered in the end end]] apparently angered quite a few readers. And anything even ''remotely'' resembling CharacterDevelopment happens so late in the series you wonder why the author even bothered.

Added: 352

Removed: 360

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: A common complaint about the series, mostly due to the ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and unsympathetic characters. The fact that nobody suffered in the end apparently angered quite a few readers. And anything even ''remotely'' resembling CharacterDevelopment happens so late in the series you wonder why the author even bothered.


Added DiffLines:

* TooBleakStoppedCaring: A common complaint about the series, mostly due to the ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and unsympathetic characters. The fact that nobody suffered in the end apparently angered quite a few readers. And anything even ''remotely'' resembling CharacterDevelopment happens so late in the series you wonder why the author even bothered.

Added: 660

Changed: 658

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HarsherInHindsight: The plastic surgery jokes are this now that preteens getting them has been revealed to sadly be TruthInTelevision.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
**
The plastic surgery jokes are this now that preteens getting them has been revealed to sadly be TruthInTelevision.



%% JerkassWoobie: Massie, with emphasis mostly on jerkass.



* ReplacementScrappy: Alicia tries to bring in In-Universe examples when she tries to form her own clique: "Strawberry" for Dylan, Kori for Kristen, "Faux-Livia" for herself and herself for Massie. It ends up failing miserably, partly because Alicia can't help but think of them as Replacement Scrappies for her real friends (and partly because the "knockoffs" are TooDumbToLive)

to:

* ReplacementScrappy: ReplacementScrappy:
**
Alicia tries to bring in In-Universe examples when she tries to form her own clique: "Strawberry" for Dylan, Kori for Kristen, "Faux-Livia" for herself and herself for Massie. It ends up failing miserably, partly because Alicia can't help but think of them as Replacement Scrappies for her real friends (and partly because the "knockoffs" are TooDumbToLive)



* TheScrappy: Cam tends to fall towards this, if nothing else dragging Claire down with him through her constant obsession with him.

to:

* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:
**
Cam tends to fall towards this, if nothing else dragging Claire down with him through her constant obsession with him.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some think this could've worked better as a straight {{Deconstruction}} or a dark comedy.

to:

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some think this could've worked better as a straight {{Deconstruction}} or a dark comedy.BlackComedy.



* TheWoobie: Claire, Dylan and Kristen.
** JerkassWoobie: Massie, with emphasis mostly on jerkass.

to:

* %% TheWoobie: Claire, Dylan and Kristen.
** JerkassWoobie: Massie, with emphasis mostly on jerkass.
Kristen.

----

Top