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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The entire planet Atreim. Mist describes it as a peaceful utopia, but also states that despite '''2000 years''' of peace, it had a defense force even LARGER than Earth's. That means their defense force is bigger than [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny OMNI Enforcer]] and [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Neo U.N. Army]] put together. This, coupled with the fact that Mist was a rookie member of the defense force, yet he mentioned that he was quite used to '''riot suppresion''', begs the quesiton: Was Atreim really a utopia, or was it a 1984-esque police state?
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** Following the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'', installments began standardizing many gameplay mechanics, such as "evasion decay"[[note]]As a unit is attacked, its evasion rate decreases every time it is targeted[[/note]], raising the cost of Spirit Commands and balancing individual Will gains. The one gripe players have with ''K'' regarding standardization are terrain rankings on units. First, ''K'' goes with the idea that if a series is never set in space, it cannot have more than rank of "B" in space. This is fine until players realize that MazingerZ, who was never been in space, gets a rank of "A". This also extends to the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafners]], while the [[Anime/GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw against the [[Anime/GunXSword Saudade of Sunday]], an Armor built for space combat) gets a "B". Secondly, despite the primary units from ''Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar'' fighting somewhat often in water, and the Fafners originating from an ''island'', none of them have a better rank of "B" in water (the exceptions are the [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar Cosmo Diver]], a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units).

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** Following the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'', installments began standardizing many gameplay mechanics, such as "evasion decay"[[note]]As a unit is attacked, its evasion rate decreases every time it is targeted[[/note]], raising the cost of Spirit Commands and balancing individual Will gains. The one gripe players have with ''K'' regarding standardization are terrain rankings on units. First, ''K'' goes with the idea that if a series is never set in space, it cannot have more than rank of "B" in space. This is fine until players realize that MazingerZ, Anime/MazingerZ, who was never been in space, gets a rank of "A". This also extends to the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafners]], while the [[Anime/GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw against the [[Anime/GunXSword Saudade of Sunday]], an Armor built for space combat) gets a "B". Secondly, despite the primary units from ''Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar'' fighting somewhat often in water, and the Fafners originating from an ''island'', none of them have a better rank of "B" in water (the exceptions are the [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar Cosmo Diver]], a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units).
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* UnfortunateImplications: Mist's destroyed homeworld Atreim, despite '''2000 years''' of peace, had a defense force even LARGER than Earth's. That means their defense force is bigger than [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny OMNI Enforcer]] and [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Neo U.N. Army]] put together. It may sound like a cheap attempt to make the bad guys that destroyed Atreim sound more powerful, but combined with the fact that Mist was a rookie member of the defense force, yet he mentioned that he was quite used to '''riot suppresion'''... [[{{Dystopia}} Yeah...]]
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** The various frames for the KotetsuJeeg are not available in ''K''. One of them even has ''[[ThisIsADrill drill legs]]''!

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** The various frames for the KotetsuJeeg Anime/KotetsuJeeg are not available in ''K''. One of them even has ''[[ThisIsADrill drill legs]]''!
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** Following the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'', installments began standardizing many gameplay mechanics, such as "evasion decay"[[note]]As a unit is attacked, its evasion rate decreases every time it is targeted[[/note]], raising the cost of Spirit Commands and balancing individual Will gains. The one gripe players have with ''K'' regarding standardization are terrain rankings on units. First, ''K'' goes with the idea that if a series is never set in space, it cannot have more than rank of "B" in space. This is fine until players realize that MazingerZ, who was never been in space, gets a rank of "A". This also extends to the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafners]], while the [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw against the [[GunXSword Saudade of Sunday]], an Armor built for space combat) gets a "B". Secondly, despite the primary units from ''Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar'' fighting somewhat often in water, and the Fafners originating from an ''island'', none of them have a better rank of "B" in water (the exceptions are the [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar Cosmo Diver]], a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units).

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** Following the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'', installments began standardizing many gameplay mechanics, such as "evasion decay"[[note]]As a unit is attacked, its evasion rate decreases every time it is targeted[[/note]], raising the cost of Spirit Commands and balancing individual Will gains. The one gripe players have with ''K'' regarding standardization are terrain rankings on units. First, ''K'' goes with the idea that if a series is never set in space, it cannot have more than rank of "B" in space. This is fine until players realize that MazingerZ, who was never been in space, gets a rank of "A". This also extends to the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafners]], while the [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw against the [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword Saudade of Sunday]], an Armor built for space combat) gets a "B". Secondly, despite the primary units from ''Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar'' fighting somewhat often in water, and the Fafners originating from an ''island'', none of them have a better rank of "B" in water (the exceptions are the [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar Cosmo Diver]], a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units).



*** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''GunXSword'' plot, only Van is attacked by a lot of [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. The player must ensure Van survive s for two turns until the [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Daikuu Maryu]] appears to aid him, which is easier said than done.
*** Scenario 7 is a mix of the two before: it begins with the Dann of Thursday, the [[GunXSword El Dora]] [[CombiningMecha V]] (unfortunately, it's an EN guzzler), the [[GunXSword Brow]][[CombatMedic nie]] and Mist being attacked by a bunch of ''King Gainer'' grunts and bosses (again). A few turns later, the rest of the party arrives, only enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements - [[OvermanKingGainer Cynthia Lane]] and [[GunXSword Ray Lundgren]]. Like Brunhilde in scenario 5, they only attack the party, despite neither of them being aligned with the [[OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]].
*** Finally, scenario 8 is MORE ''Overman King Gainer'' bosses/{{Mook}}s, plus Cynthia again, and the [[GunXSword Diablo of Monday]]. This scenario's slighty easier, but if players want the ''GunXSword'' {{Secret Character}}s, [[GuideDangIt Van must destroy the Diablon]] or they're LostForever. Fortunately, after all this hell, Scenario 9 is an easy BreatherLevel.

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*** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''GunXSword'' ''Anime/GunXSword'' plot, only Van is attacked by a lot of [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. The player must ensure Van survive s for two turns until the [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Daikuu Maryu]] appears to aid him, which is easier said than done.
*** Scenario 7 is a mix of the two before: it begins with the Dann of Thursday, the [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword El Dora]] [[CombiningMecha V]] (unfortunately, it's an EN guzzler), the [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword Brow]][[CombatMedic nie]] and Mist being attacked by a bunch of ''King Gainer'' grunts and bosses (again). A few turns later, the rest of the party arrives, only enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements - [[OvermanKingGainer Cynthia Lane]] and [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword Ray Lundgren]]. Like Brunhilde in scenario 5, they only attack the party, despite neither of them being aligned with the [[OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]].
*** Finally, scenario 8 is MORE ''Overman King Gainer'' bosses/{{Mook}}s, plus Cynthia again, and the [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword Diablo of Monday]]. This scenario's slighty easier, but if players want the ''GunXSword'' ''Anime/GunXSword'' {{Secret Character}}s, [[GuideDangIt Van must destroy the Diablon]] or they're LostForever. Fortunately, after all this hell, Scenario 9 is an easy BreatherLevel.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[OvermanKingGainer King Gainer defeating the Overdevil]] with the help of the {{Gaiking}}.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[OvermanKingGainer King Gainer defeating the Overdevil]] with the help of the {{Gaiking}}.Anime/{{Gaiking}}.



*** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''GunXSword'' plot, only Van is attacked by a lot of [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. The player must ensure Van survive s for two turns until the [[{{Gaiking}} Daikuu Maryu]] appears to aid him, which is easier said than done.

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*** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''GunXSword'' plot, only Van is attacked by a lot of [[{{Gaiking}} [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. The player must ensure Van survive s for two turns until the [[{{Gaiking}} [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Daikuu Maryu]] appears to aid him, which is easier said than done.



** Despite the individual forms appearing as {{Combination Attack}}s, [[GaikingLegendofDaikuMaryu Sky Buster Gaiking and Triple Gaiking]] do not appear.

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** Despite the individual forms appearing as {{Combination Attack}}s, [[GaikingLegendofDaikuMaryu [[Anime/GaikingLegendofDaikuMaryu Sky Buster Gaiking and Triple Gaiking]] do not appear.
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* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact ''K'' followed fan-favorite ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW'', this was inevitable.

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* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact ''K'' followed fan-favorite ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW'', this was inevitable.inevitable.
* UnfortunateImplications: Mist's destroyed homeworld Atreim, despite '''2000 years''' of peace, had a defense force even LARGER than Earth's. That means their defense force is bigger than [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny OMNI Enforcer]] and [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Neo U.N. Army]] put together. It may sound like a cheap attempt to make the bad guys that destroyed Atreim sound more powerful, but combined with the fact that Mist was a rookie member of the defense force, yet he mentioned that he was quite used to '''riot suppresion'''... [[{{Dystopia}} Yeah...]]
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* TheScrappy: [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''THE''' most hated [=SRW=] protagonist ever (and the second-most despised character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Juergen]]). He spends most of ''K''complaining about how much better his homeworld of Atreim is than Earth, acts like an asshole to cast over the party's character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go Saruwatari]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting Kira's idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer Sanga]], [[{{Zoids}} Ruuji Familon]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya Tsuwabuki]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi Minashiro]]]] and his actions, who [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination BigBad that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR ALTREIM'S DESTRUCTION'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]], after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshopping Mist and his mecha into announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.

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* TheScrappy: [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''THE''' most hated [=SRW=] protagonist ever (and the second-most despised character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Juergen]]). He spends most of ''K''complaining ''K'' complaining about how much better his homeworld of Atreim is than Earth, acts like an asshole to cast over the party's character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go Saruwatari]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword [[Anime/GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting Kira's idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer [[Anime/OvermanKingGainer Gainer Sanga]], [[{{Zoids}} [[Anime/ZoidsGenesis Ruuji Familon]], Familion]], and [[{{Gaiking}} [[Anime/{{Gaiking}} Daiya Tsuwabuki]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor [[spoiler:[[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi Minashiro]]]] and his actions, who [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination BigBad that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR ALTREIM'S DESTRUCTION'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]], after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshopping Mist and his mecha into announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.

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** After the fiasco with ''MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'', Cagalli Yula Athla returns to piloting in ''K''. Banpresto decided to make her first mission one that's simply plain awesome on principle: taking on the [[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Festum]] in an outdated, underpowered Strike Rouge becomes a lot more badass when you realize those things can alter gravity, create black holes at will, read your mind, and pretty much EVERY canon pilot who had a chance against them had been genetically modified. If there was ''any'' enemy for Cagalli to take a swing at to show she hadn't lost anything, ''this'' was the one.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUU93LvIL3c EDAX]]", the song played if the player is fighting against any Edax general and the BigBad.
** Let alone "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mld2IxYXgt0 Astral Burst]]", the music that plays during the original's {{Mid Season Upgrade}}'s final attacks.
* GameBreaker: Interestingly, you get a LOT of them, such as the ''SEED Destiny'' Gundams, [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]], both [[KotetsuJeeg Jeegs]], King Gainer, Gaiking, etc. Unfortunately, given the game's difficulty, this still means most levels are uphill battles.
** Parts-wise, the Orgone Cloud, which grants a level 3 barrier, double-image ability, ignore terrain penalties and a level 1 energy recovery. You can only get one by either inserting a ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' cartridge or through the shop on your 5th playthrough, and boy, is it worth the hassle of getting it.
** The Multicombo system in K is a GameBreaker in general. With the combo skill at level 3, it lets any unit attack up to six enemies at once while bypass enemy support defense entirely. They are essentially short range MAP attacks, except without all the usual drawbacks of a MAP weapon like low ammo or reduced experience gain or allies not getting any will gains from your kills, so you are free to spam them to your heart's content right from the first turn.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap (''SEED Destiny'': not only is Kira Yamato more reasonable (and doesn't attack your team on sight, but agrees to join them) and Cagalli's {{Chickification}} completely nullified, but the game goes out of its way to make [[TheScrappy Yuuna]] [[RomanticFalseLead Roma]] [[ButtMonkey Seinan]] a bit less of a coward and more caring towards Cagalli, to the point where [[spoiler:he acknowledges his faults and steps aside when Cagalli forcibly takes command of Orb. Yuuna actually manages to [[SparedByTheAdaptation LIVE through everything]], on top of this.]])
** The same can't really be said for the ZAFT characters, though (with the exception of Athrun Zala and maybe Heine Westenfluss).
* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to cast over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death who, mind you, [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]]...after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.
** He is also seen bullying some other characters in fanart, such as [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Shiony]]
** [[spoiler: Mist Rex might actually be the most hated character in SRW now that Lee Linjun had a HeroicSacrifice at the end of the 2nd Original Generation to save Ing Egret. While it is debatable to say yet that Lee Linjun has been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, the fact that he has done some good has elevated his position in the eyes of gamers and has made him not as hated.]]
** This and various other reasons have fans seeing the whole game as this compared to W and L.
* ScrappyMechanic: Many players consider the Partner Battle System to be useless, especially later on in the game when many standard {{mook}}s have access to the [[GameBreaker Combo Attack]]. Partnering two units also prevents either from using Combo Attacks, further discouraging its use.
** Those who ''do'' want to try the Partner Battle System will find it does have some uses, such as always having mecha in range of each other to combine or use {{Combination Attack}}s. It's a question of weighing up the benefits of these vs. being able to use a Combo Attack.
** Terrain rankings matter a lot in this game, so some of the more odd decisions draw a lot of flack from gameplayers. First, the game went with the idea that if a series never went to space, it cannot have more than a B ranking there. This is fine until you realize that MazingerZ, who was never in space, gets an A Ranking, as well as ALL THE [[FafnerInTheAzure FAFNERS]], while [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw with Saudade, a mech built for space) only gets a B ranking. Second, despite the main mechs of [[GoDannar Godannar]] fighting somewhat often in water, and the [[FafnerInTheAzure Fafners]] BEING ON AN ISLAND, none of them have any better than a B underwater (With the exception of Cosmo Diver, a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units) And multiple series also don't involve many flying mechs as well, causing problems when the later grunts all take to the skies. This would probably still be fine... if the game gave you enough parts, but they don't.

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** After the fiasco with ''MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Cagalli Yula Athla Athla]] returns to piloting duties in ''K''. Banpresto decided to make even makes her first mission scenario one that's simply plain awesome on principle: principle - taking on the [[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Festum]] in an the outdated, underpowered [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Strike Rouge Rouge]] becomes a lot more badass when you realize those things the player realizes the Festum can [[GravityMaster alter gravity, gravity]], [[PowerOfTheVoid create black holes at will, will]], [[{{Telepathy}} read your mind, minds]], and pretty much EVERY canon pilot from ''Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor'' who had a chance against them had been genetically modified. If there was ''any'' any enemy for Cagalli to take a swing at to show she hadn't lost anything, ''this'' was the one.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUU93LvIL3c EDAX]]", Edax]]", the song played {{Leitmotif}} heard if the player is fighting against any of the [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Edax general generals]] and the BigBad.
** Let alone "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mld2IxYXgt0 Astral Burst]]", the music that plays during the original's {{Mid Season Upgrade}}'s final attacks.
attack of the protagonist's MidSeasonUpgrade.
* GameBreaker: Interestingly, you get a LOT of them, such as See [[GameBreak/SuperRobotWars entries here]]
** Of
the ''SEED Destiny'' Gundams, [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]], both [[KotetsuJeeg Jeegs]], King Gainer, Gaiking, etc. Unfortunately, given equippable parts available in ''K'', "Orgone Cloud" is probably the game's difficulty, this still means most levels are uphill battles.
** Parts-wise, the Orgone Cloud, which grants
best one[[note]]Unit gains "Double Image" (at 130 Will, gain a level 3 barrier, double-image ability, ignore 50% chance of evading any attack), a large "Barrier" (reduce damage taken by 2000 points), small EN regeneration (10% per turn) and ignores terrain penalties and a level 1 energy recovery. You penalties[[/note]]. Although it's available on the fifth playthrough of the game, players can only get one easily acquire it on the first playthrough by either inserting a ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' cartridge or through into the shop on your 5th playthrough, and boy, is it worth the hassle of getting it.
NintendoDS GameBoyAdvance slot.
** The Multicombo system in K is a GameBreaker in general. With the combo "Combo Attack" pilot skill at level 3, it lets any unit allows a pilot to attack up both units in a partner unit; at higher levels, the pilot can target additional partner units. Thus, a pilot with a level 3 "Combo Attack" can target upwards to six enemies at once while bypass enemy support defense entirely. They are essentially short range MAP once. Since "Combo Attack" is only applicable to melee attacks, these are effectively short-ranged MAP Attacks, except without all the usual drawbacks of a MAP weapon like low ammo or such as limited ammunition, reduced experience gain or allies not getting ExperiencePoints/credits earned and possible friendly fire. Additionally, "Combo Attack" deals ''full damage without any will gains from your kills, so you penalties'', meaning players are free to spam them to your heart's their hearts' content right from immediately on the first turn.
*** Unlike the "Chain Attack" pilot skill in previous [=SRWs=], enemies don't need to be adjacent to one another or in a row; "Combo Attack" is far more effective so long as enemies are in range of the weapon that is "Combo Attack" applicable. Finally, destroying many units with a "Combo Attack" allows much faster Will gains for the pilot with the skill.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap (''SEED Destiny'': RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Largely ''Gundam SEED Destiny'' characters; not only is Kira Yamato more reasonable (and (who doesn't attack your the player's team on sight, but agrees to join them) and Cagalli's {{Chickification}} completely nullified, but the game ''K'' goes out of its way to make [[TheScrappy Yuuna]] [[RomanticFalseLead Roma]] [[ButtMonkey Seinan]] a bit less of a coward and more caring affectionate towards Cagalli, to the point where [[spoiler:he acknowledges his faults and steps aside when Cagalli forcibly takes command of Orb. [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Orb]]. Yuuna actually manages to [[SparedByTheAdaptation LIVE live through everything]], the Battle of Orb]], on top of this.]])
** The
this]]. Unfortunately, the same can't really be said for about the ZAFT characters, though [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny ZAFT]] characters (with the exception of Athrun Zala and maybe Heine Westenfluss).
* TheScrappy: [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex Rex]] is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' '''THE''' most hated ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' [=SRW=] protagonist ever (and the second-most hated despised character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining ''K''complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he of Atreim is than Earth, acts like an asshole to cast over their the party's character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] Go Saruwatari]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] Kira's idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], Gainer Sanga]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], Ruuji Familon]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). Daiya Tsuwabuki]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death who, mind you, Soushi Minashiro]]]] and his actions, who [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination BigBad that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. ALTREIM'S DESTRUCTION'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]]...him]], after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping photoshopping Mist and his mecha into announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.
** He is also seen bullying some other characters in fanart, such as [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ Shiony]]
** [[spoiler: Mist Rex might actually be the most hated character in SRW now that Lee Linjun had a HeroicSacrifice at the end of the 2nd Original Generation to save Ing Egret. While it is debatable to say yet that Lee Linjun has been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, the fact that he has done some good has elevated his position in the eyes of gamers and has made him not as hated.]]
** This and various other reasons have fans seeing the whole game as this compared to W and L.
* ScrappyMechanic: Many players consider the Partner Battle System to be "Partner Battle" system useless, especially when standard {{Mook}}s later on in the game when many standard {{mook}}s have access to the [[GameBreaker Combo Attack]]. Partnering "Combo Attack". Also, partnering two units also prevents either from using Combo Attacks, the use of "Combo Attack", further discouraging its use.
**
the system. Those who ''do'' want to try use the Partner Battle System will "Partner Battle" system find it does have some uses, such as always having [[CombiningMecha mecha in range of each other to combine combine]] or use easier access to {{Combination Attack}}s. It's Ultimately, it's a question of weighing up the benefits of these vs. being able to use a Combo Attack.
"Combo Attack". These are largely the reasons why the system is revamped in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsL''.
** Terrain Following the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'', installments began standardizing many gameplay mechanics, such as "evasion decay"[[note]]As a unit is attacked, its evasion rate decreases every time it is targeted[[/note]], raising the cost of Spirit Commands and balancing individual Will gains. The one gripe players have with ''K'' regarding standardization are terrain rankings matter a lot in this game, so some of the more odd decisions draw a lot of flack from gameplayers. on units. First, the game went ''K'' goes with the idea that if a series is never went to set in space, it cannot have more than a B ranking there. rank of "B" in space. This is fine until you players realize that MazingerZ, who was never been in space, gets an A Ranking, as well as ALL THE [[FafnerInTheAzure FAFNERS]], a rank of "A". This also extends to the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafners]], while the [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw with Saudade, a mech against the [[GunXSword Saudade of Sunday]], an Armor built for space) only space combat) gets a B ranking. Second, "B". Secondly, despite the main mechs of [[GoDannar Godannar]] primary units from ''Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar'' fighting somewhat often in water, and the [[FafnerInTheAzure Fafners]] BEING ON AN ISLAND, Fafners originating from an ''island'', none of them have any a better than a B underwater (With rank of "B" in water (the exceptions are the exception of [[Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar Cosmo Diver, Diver]], a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units) And units).
*** Additionally,
multiple series also in ''K'' don't involve have many flying mechs as well, causing flight-capable machines, which causes problems when the later grunts late-game {{Mook}}s all take to the skies. This would probably still be fine... if fine, provided the game gave you players enough parts, equippable parts allowing flight, but they don't.it doesn't.



** Scenarios 5 to 8, "Those Four Levels"
*** Scenario 5 pits you against EVERY SINGLE NAMED BADDIE in the first half of ''OvermanKingGainer'', INCLUDING Brunhilde, that in-series ''attacked friends and foes alike'', yet here only attacks ''you''. Fortunately, you only need to destroy Brunhilde...except it has 10000+ HP (at Scenario 5, no less), and you've got around 7-8 FragileSpeedster bosses attacking you at the same time. Fortunately, the secnario has easy {{Mook}}s to handle.
*** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''GunXSword'' plot, only Van is being attacked by ''a lot'' of [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. You basically have to survive for two turns until the [[{{Gaiking}} Daiku Maryu]] shows up to aid him, which is easier said than done.
*** Scenario 7 is a mix of the two before: it begins with the Dann of Thursday, plus [[CombiningMecha El Dora V]] (that unfortunately is an EN guzzler), [[CombatMedic Brownie]] and Mist being attacked by a bunch of ''Overman King Gainer'' grunts and bosses (again). You'll have to endure a few turns until the other heroes show up, only the enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements: [[OvermanKingGainer Cynthia Lane]] and [[GunXSword Ray]]. Like Brunhilde in scenario 5, neither of them were with the [[OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]], but fighting for themselves; however, they only attack you and you alone.
*** Finally, scenario 8 is MORE ''Overman King Gainer'' bosses/{{mook}}s, PLUS Cynthia again, plus the [[GunXSword Diablo of Monday]]. This scenario's slighty easier, but if you want the ''GunXSword'' {{Secret Character}}s, [[GuideDangIt you must destroy the Diablo with Van]] or they're LostForever. Fortunately, after all this hell, the next scenario's an easy BreatherLevel with the ''[[{{Zoids}} Zoids Genesis]]'' plot, only with more Darius Empire grunts showing up chasing [[{{Zoids}}s Kotona Elegance]] so there's an excuse to get her without [[TheBigGuy Garaga]] and [[TheSmartGuy Ron]] showing up as well.
** Any ''VideoGame/VirtualOn''-based scenarios: the first two are long and boring, set in corridors against {{mook}}s with MAP Weapons, while the last one is on an open field with more grunts like that AND EliteMooks with huge HP supplies AND the Attack Combo skill that allows them to crush your support units.
*** Scratch that: let's just say that any long corridor-based scenario is long and dull (we're looking at you, final Fafner scenario).
** In one ''[[MobileSuitGundamSEED Mobile Suit Gundam SEED C.E. 73: Stargazer]]'' scenario, you must prevent any enemy unit from reaching a certain point...[[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. This sort of mission objective isn't a problem, except in a game where many series and their respective mecha don't go ''into space'', they're stuck with a relatively low B-ranking for terrain rating (and terrain matters A LOT). To emphasize, a LightningBruiser such as King Gainer in ''K'' can easily get hit and often miss in space. Ouch.
* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot They Wasted A Perfectly Good Appearance]]: Despite the proper [=SRW=] appearance of ''Godannar'' (the series made its debut in ''Scramble Comannder 2''), units like the Goddinner, Genesister and Volspinner do not make an appearance, let alone even be mentioned in ''K''.
** Their pilots ''do'' make appearances in some cutscenes though, just not their machines.
** Koutetsu Jeeg's various frames. One of them had ''drill legs''!
** Despite the changes to its storyline, ''SEED Destiny'' still got the short end of the stick in several areas. So what if the Minerva's [[spoiler:Captain Talia Gladys dies in the game]]? Let the players use it instead of the Archangel, for a change.
** Also, Sky Buster Gaiking doesn't appear, despite the individual forms appearing as {{Combination Attack}}s.
*** Similarly, Triple Gaiking (the combination of Gaiking and its three support robots) also is unusable.
** ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VideoGame/VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages.
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** Scenarios 5 to 8, or "Those Four Levels"
*** Scenario 5 pits you players against EVERY SINGLE NAMED BADDIE every named villain in the first half of ''OvermanKingGainer'', INCLUDING Brunhilde, that including [[OvermanKingGainer Brunhilde]], who in-series ''attacked attacked friends and foes alike'', alike, yet here in ''K'' only attacks ''you''. the ''players' units''. Fortunately, you only need Brunhilde needs to destroy Brunhilde...be destroyed, except it has 10000+ HP {{Hit Point}}s (at Scenario 5, no less), and you've got there are around 7-8 FragileSpeedster bosses {{Flunky Boss}}es attacking you the party at the same time. Fortunately, the secnario scenario has easy {{Mook}}s to handle.
*** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''GunXSword'' plot, only Van is being attacked by ''a lot'' a lot of [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. You basically have to The player must ensure Van survive s for two turns until the [[{{Gaiking}} Daiku Daikuu Maryu]] shows up appears to aid him, which is easier said than done.
*** Scenario 7 is a mix of the two before: it begins with the Dann of Thursday, plus the [[GunXSword El Dora]] [[CombiningMecha El Dora V]] (that unfortunately is (unfortunately, it's an EN guzzler), [[CombatMedic Brownie]] the [[GunXSword Brow]][[CombatMedic nie]] and Mist being attacked by a bunch of ''Overman King ''King Gainer'' grunts and bosses (again). You'll have to endure a A few turns until later, the other heroes show up, rest of the party arrives, only the enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements: reinforcements - [[OvermanKingGainer Cynthia Lane]] and [[GunXSword Ray]]. [[GunXSword Ray Lundgren]]. Like Brunhilde in scenario 5, they only attack the party, despite neither of them were being aligned with the [[OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]], but fighting for themselves; however, they only attack you and you alone.
Railroad]].
*** Finally, scenario 8 is MORE ''Overman King Gainer'' bosses/{{mook}}s, PLUS bosses/{{Mook}}s, plus Cynthia again, plus and the [[GunXSword Diablo of Monday]]. This scenario's slighty easier, but if you players want the ''GunXSword'' {{Secret Character}}s, [[GuideDangIt you Van must destroy the Diablo with Van]] Diablon]] or they're LostForever. Fortunately, after all this hell, the next scenario's Scenario 9 is an easy BreatherLevel with the ''[[{{Zoids}} Zoids Genesis]]'' plot, only with more Darius Empire grunts showing up chasing [[{{Zoids}}s Kotona Elegance]] so there's an excuse to get her without [[TheBigGuy Garaga]] and [[TheSmartGuy Ron]] showing up as well.
BreatherLevel.
** Any ''VideoGame/VirtualOn''-based scenarios: the first two are long and boring, set in corridors against {{mook}}s {{Mook}}s with MAP Weapons, weapons, while the last one is on an open field with more grunts like that AND and EliteMooks with huge HP supplies AND pools and the Attack Combo skill that allows "Combo Attack" pilot skill, allowing them to crush your the player's support units.
*** Scratch that: let's just say that any ''any'' long corridor-based scenario is long and dull (we're looking at you, final Fafner ''Fafner'' scenario).
** In one ''[[MobileSuitGundamSEED Mobile Suit Gundam SEED C.E. 73: Stargazer]]'' scenario, you players must prevent any enemy unit from reaching a certain point...[[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. This sort of mission objective isn't a problem, except in a game where many series and their respective mecha in this game don't go ''into space'', into space from their home series, meaning they're stuck with a relatively low B-ranking rank of "B" for terrain rating (and terrain matters A LOT). (see ScrappyMechanic above). To emphasize, even a LightningBruiser such as like the King Gainer in ''K'' can easily get hit and often miss in space. Ouch.
space.
* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot They Wasted A Perfectly Good Appearance]]: Despite the proper [=SRW=] appearance of ''Godannar'' (the series made its debut in ''Scramble ''Super Robot Wars Scramble Comannder 2''), units like the Goddinner, Genesister and Volspinner do not make an appearance, let alone even be mentioned in ''K''.
** Their
''K''. However, thir pilots ''do'' make appearances in some cutscenes though, during the intermission, just not their machines.
** Koutetsu Jeeg's The various frames. frames for the KotetsuJeeg are not available in ''K''. One of them had ''drill legs''!
even has ''[[ThisIsADrill drill legs]]''!
** Despite the changes to its storyline, ''SEED ''Gundam SEED Destiny'' still got gets the short end of the stick in several areas. So what if the Minerva's [[spoiler:Captain [[spoiler:[[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Captain Talia Gladys Gladys]] dies in the game]]? Let the players use it the ''[[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Minerva]]'' battleship instead of the Archangel, ''[[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Archangel]]'', for a change.
** Also, Sky Buster Gaiking doesn't appear, despite Despite the individual forms appearing as {{Combination Attack}}s.
*** Similarly, Triple Gaiking (the combination of
Attack}}s, [[GaikingLegendofDaikuMaryu Sky Buster Gaiking and its three support robots) also is unusable.
Triple Gaiking]] do not appear.
** ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VideoGame/VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the is used (the cast treated their ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you players only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ ''MARZ'' characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages.
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* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact that ''K'' followed the fan-favorite ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW'', this was inevitable.
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** Terrain rankings matter a lot in this game, so some of the more odd decisions draw a lot of flack from gameplayers. First, the game went with the idea that if a series never went to space, it cannot have more than a B ranking there. This is fine until you realize that MazingerZ, who was never in space, gets an A Ranking, as well as ALL THE [[FafnerInTheAzure FAFNERS]], while [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw with Saudade, a mech built for space) only gets a B ranking. Second, despite the main mechs of [[GoDannar Godannar]] fighting somewhat often in water, and the [[FafnerInTheAzure Fafners]] BEING ON AN ISLAND, none of them have any better than a B underwater. And multiple series also don't involve many flying mechs as well, causing problems when the later grunts all take to the skies. This would probably still be fine... if the game gave you enough parts, but they don't.

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** Terrain rankings matter a lot in this game, so some of the more odd decisions draw a lot of flack from gameplayers. First, the game went with the idea that if a series never went to space, it cannot have more than a B ranking there. This is fine until you realize that MazingerZ, who was never in space, gets an A Ranking, as well as ALL THE [[FafnerInTheAzure FAFNERS]], while [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw with Saudade, a mech built for space) only gets a B ranking. Second, despite the main mechs of [[GoDannar Godannar]] fighting somewhat often in water, and the [[FafnerInTheAzure Fafners]] BEING ON AN ISLAND, none of them have any better than a B underwater. underwater (With the exception of Cosmo Diver, a dedicated underwater/space unit, and one of the unlockable Fafner units) And multiple series also don't involve many flying mechs as well, causing problems when the later grunts all take to the skies. This would probably still be fine... if the game gave you enough parts, but they don't.
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** Terrain rankings matter a lot in this game, so some of the more odd decisions draw a lot of flack from gameplayers. First, the game went with the idea that if a series never went to space, it cannot have more than a B ranking there. This is fine until you realize that MazingerZ, who was never in space, gets an A Ranking, as well as ALL THE [[FafnerInTheAzure FAFNERS]], while [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw with Saudade, a mech built for space) only gets a B ranking. Second, despite the main mechs of [[GoDannar Godannar]] fighting somewhat often in water, and the [[FafnerInTheAzure Fafners]] BEING ON AN ISLAND, none of them have any better than a B underwater. And multiple series also don't involve many flying mechs as well, causing problems when the later grunts all take to the skies. This would probably still be fine... if the game gave you enough parts, but they don't.
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** Parts-wise, the Orgone Cloud, which grants a level 3 barrier, double-image ability, ignore terrain penalties and a level 1 energy recovery. You can only get one by either inserting a ''SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' cartridge or through the shop on your 5th playthrough, and boy, is it worth the hassle of getting it.

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** Parts-wise, the Orgone Cloud, which grants a level 3 barrier, double-image ability, ignore terrain penalties and a level 1 energy recovery. You can only get one by either inserting a ''SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' cartridge or through the shop on your 5th playthrough, and boy, is it worth the hassle of getting it.



* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to cast over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death who, mind you, [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]]...after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.

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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to cast over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death who, mind you, [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]]...after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.



** ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VideoGame/VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages.
* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact that ''K'' followed the fan-favorite ''SuperRobotWarsW'', this was inevitable.

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** ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VideoGame/VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages.
* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact that ''K'' followed the fan-favorite ''SuperRobotWarsW'', ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW'', this was inevitable.
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** He is also seen bullying some other characters in fanart, such as [[SuperRobotWarsZ2 Shiony]]

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** [[spoiler: Mist Rex might actually be the most hated character in SRW now that Lee Linjun had a HeroicSacrifice at the end of the 2nd Original Generation to save Ing Egret. While it is debatable to say yet that Lee Linjun has been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, the fact that he has done some good has elevated his position in the eyes of gamers and has made him not as hated.]]
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* ArcWelding: An example would be how ORB was funding various organizations such as Godannar's forces and the Fafnir project. This is part of the reason why the other mechs from Godannar do a BigDamnHeroes during the ORB invasion, though it's small compared to the reason of invading countries that don't agree with your plan is wrong.
** Kouji, Sayaka and Boss are working along side the Danner Base crew at the start of the game.
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** Kouji, Sayaka and Boss are working along side the Danner Base crew at the start of the game.
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** ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages.

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** ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VirtualOn ''[[VideoGame/VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages.
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** Any ''VirtualOn''-based scenarios: the first two are long and boring, set in corridors against {{mook}}s with MAP Weapons, while the last one is on an open field with more grunts like that AND EliteMooks with huge HP supplies AND the Attack Combo skill that allows them to crush your support units.

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**He is also seen bullying some other characters in fanart, such as [[SuperRobotWarsZ2 Shiony]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome (King Gainer defeating the Overdevil with the help of the Gaiking)
** After the fiasco with ''SEED Destiny'', Cagalli returns to piloting in K. Banpresto decided to make her first mission one that's simply plain awesome on principle: taking on the [[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Festum]] in an outdated, underpowered Strike Rouge becomes a lot more badass when you realize those things can alter gravity, create black holes at will, read your mind, and pretty much EVERY canon pilot who had a chance against them had been genetically modified. If there was ''any'' enemy for Cagalli to take a swing at to show she hadn't lost anything, ''this'' was the one)
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUU93LvIL3c EDAX]], the song played if the player is fighting against any Edax general and the BigBad)
** Let alone [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mld2IxYXgt0 Astral Burst]], the music that plays during the original's {{Mid Season Upgrade}}'s final attacks
* GameBreaker (Interestingly, you get a LOT of them, such as the ''SEED Destiny'' Gundams, Dann, both Jeegs, King Gainer, Gaiking, etc. Unfortunately, given the game's difficulty, this still means most levels are uphill battles)

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome (King CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[OvermanKingGainer King Gainer defeating the Overdevil Overdevil]] with the help of the Gaiking)
{{Gaiking}}.
** After the fiasco with ''SEED Destiny'', ''MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'', Cagalli Yula Athla returns to piloting in K.''K''. Banpresto decided to make her first mission one that's simply plain awesome on principle: taking on the [[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Festum]] in an outdated, underpowered Strike Rouge becomes a lot more badass when you realize those things can alter gravity, create black holes at will, read your mind, and pretty much EVERY canon pilot who had a chance against them had been genetically modified. If there was ''any'' enemy for Cagalli to take a swing at to show she hadn't lost anything, ''this'' was the one)
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome ([[http://www.CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUU93LvIL3c EDAX]], EDAX]]", the song played if the player is fighting against any Edax general and the BigBad)
BigBad.
** Let alone [[http://www."[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mld2IxYXgt0 Astral Burst]], Burst]]", the music that plays during the original's {{Mid Season Upgrade}}'s final attacks
attacks.
* GameBreaker (Interestingly, GameBreaker: Interestingly, you get a LOT of them, such as the ''SEED Destiny'' Gundams, Dann, [[GunXSword Dann of Thursday]], both Jeegs, [[KotetsuJeeg Jeegs]], King Gainer, Gaiking, etc. Unfortunately, given the game's difficulty, this still means most levels are uphill battles)battles.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap (''SEED Destiny'': not only is Kira more reasonable (and doesn't attack your team on sight, but agrees to join them) and Cagalli's {{Chickification}} completely nullified, but the game goes out of its way to make [[TheScrappy Yuuna]] [[RomanticFalseLead Roma]] [[ButtMonkey Seinan]] a bit less of a coward and more caring towards Cagalli, to the point where [[spoiler:he acknowledges his faults and steps aside when Cagalli forcibly takes command of Orb. Yuuna actually manages to LIVE through everything, on top of this.]])
** The same can't really be said for the ZAFT characters, though (with the exception of Athrun and maybe Heine Westenfluss)
* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[TheNeidermeyer Lee Linjun]] (or third, after [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Who, mind you, [[spoiler:sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy the EldritchAbomination that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same, or some instances where he recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him...after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.
* ScrappyMechanic (Many players consider the Partner Battle System to be useless, especially later on in the game when many standard {{mook}}s have access to the [[GameBreaker Combo Attack]]. Partnering two units also prevents either from using Combo Attacks, further discouraging its use)
** Those who ''do'' want to try the Partner Battle System will find it does have some uses, such as always having mechs in range of each other to combine or use Combination Attacks. It's a question of weighing up the benefits of these vs. being able to use a Combo Attack)
* ThatOneLevel (K has several of these:)
** First, there's scenarios 5 to 8, "Those Four Levels": Scenario 5 pits you against EVERY SINGLE NAMED BAD GUY IN THE FIRST HALF OF ''[[OvermanKingGainer OVERMAN KING GAINER]]'', included Brunhilde, that in series ''attacked friends and foes alike'', yet here only attacks ''you''. Fortunately, to beat the level you just need to kill Brunhilde... except it has 10000+ HP (At Stage 5 it's pretty good, mind), and you've got like 7-8 FragileSpeedster bosses attacking you at the same time as well. At least the {{Mook}}s are easy. Mission 6 has the beginning of ''GunXSword'', only Van is being attacked by ''a lot'' of [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] Mooks instead. You basically have to survive for two turns until the Daiku Maryu crew shows up to aid him, which is easier said than done. Mission 7 is a mix of the two before: It starts with Dann of Thursday, plus [[CombiningMecha El Dora V]] (that guzzles EN like crazy), [[CombatMedic Brownie]] and the OriginalGeneration main character being attacked by a bunch of ''OvermanKingGainer'' mooks and bosses (again). Again, you have to endure a few turns until the other heroes shpw up, only the enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements: OKG's Cynthia Lane and GXS's Ray. And like Brunhilde above, neither of them were with the [[OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]], but on their own team, yet here, they only attack you again. Finally, Mission 8 is MORE Gainer bosses/mooks, PLUS Cynthia again, plus GXS's Diablo of Monday. This one is slighty easier, but if you want the GXS secret characters, [[GuideDangIt kill Diablo with Van]] or they're LostForever. Fortunately, after this hell, the next mission is a very easy BreatherLevel playing the beginning of ''[[{{Zoids}} Zoids Genesis]]'', only with more [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] mooks showing up chasing Zoids's [[MsFanservice Kotona Elegance]] so there's an excuse to get her without [[TheBigGuy Garaga]] and [[TheSmartGuy Ron]] showing up as well.
** And besides that, there's all the ''VirtualOn'' missions (The first two are long, boring missions set in corridors against mooks with Map Attacks, the last one is on an open field with more Mooks like that AND EliteMooks with huge HP supplies AND the Attack Combo skill that allows them to crush your support units)) and the one playing Gundam SEED Stargazer (A "don't let the bad guys get to this point" mission... [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. On a game where everyone who doesn't goes into space in-series has a B as its Terrain Rating for... well, space, and terrains matter A LOT. See: [[LightningBruiser King Gainer]] getting hit easily and missing often.) Ouch.
** Scratch that, let's just say that any long corridor level (I'm looking at you, final Fafner mission) is long and dull.
* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot They Wasted A Perfectly Good Appearance]] (Despite ''Godannar'''s "proper" [=SRW=] debut, units like the Goddinner, Genesister and Volspinner do not make an appearance, let alone even be mentioned in ''K'')
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap (''SEED Destiny'': not only is Kira Yamato more reasonable (and doesn't attack your team on sight, but agrees to join them) and Cagalli's {{Chickification}} completely nullified, but the game goes out of its way to make [[TheScrappy Yuuna]] [[RomanticFalseLead Roma]] [[ButtMonkey Seinan]] a bit less of a coward and more caring towards Cagalli, to the point where [[spoiler:he acknowledges his faults and steps aside when Cagalli forcibly takes command of Orb. Yuuna actually manages to [[SparedByTheAdaptation LIVE through everything, everything]], on top of this.]])
** The same can't really be said for the ZAFT characters, though (with the exception of Athrun Zala and maybe Heine Westenfluss)
Westenfluss).
* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Lee]] [[TheNeidermeyer Lee Linjun]] (or third, after [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Wilhelm von]] [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters cast over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Who, death who, mind you, [[spoiler:sacrificed [[spoiler:[[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy destroy]] the EldritchAbomination that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same, same reasons, or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him...him]]...after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games announced [=SRWs=] to screw with other fans.
* ScrappyMechanic (Many ScrappyMechanic: Many players consider the Partner Battle System to be useless, especially later on in the game when many standard {{mook}}s have access to the [[GameBreaker Combo Attack]]. Partnering two units also prevents either from using Combo Attacks, further discouraging its use)
use.
** Those who ''do'' want to try the Partner Battle System will find it does have some uses, such as always having mechs mecha in range of each other to combine or use Combination Attacks.{{Combination Attack}}s. It's a question of weighing up the benefits of these vs. being able to use a Combo Attack)
Attack.
* ThatOneLevel (K has several of these:)
ThatOneLevel
** First, there's scenarios Scenarios 5 to 8, "Those Four Levels": Levels"
***
Scenario 5 pits you against EVERY SINGLE NAMED BAD GUY IN THE FIRST HALF OF ''[[OvermanKingGainer OVERMAN KING GAINER]]'', included BADDIE in the first half of ''OvermanKingGainer'', INCLUDING Brunhilde, that in series in-series ''attacked friends and foes alike'', yet here only attacks ''you''. Fortunately, to beat the level you just only need to kill Brunhilde... destroy Brunhilde...except it has 10000+ HP (At Stage 5 it's pretty good, mind), (at Scenario 5, no less), and you've got like around 7-8 FragileSpeedster bosses attacking you at the same time as well. At least time. Fortunately, the secnario has easy {{Mook}}s are easy. Mission to handle.
*** Scenario
6 has kicks off the beginning of ''GunXSword'', ''GunXSword'' plot, only Van is being attacked by ''a lot'' of [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] Mooks instead. {{Mook}}s. You basically have to survive for two turns until the [[{{Gaiking}} Daiku Maryu crew Maryu]] shows up to aid him, which is easier said than done. Mission done.
*** Scenario
7 is a mix of the two before: It starts it begins with the Dann of Thursday, plus [[CombiningMecha El Dora V]] (that guzzles unfortunately is an EN like crazy), guzzler), [[CombatMedic Brownie]] and the OriginalGeneration main character Mist being attacked by a bunch of ''OvermanKingGainer'' mooks ''Overman King Gainer'' grunts and bosses (again). Again, you You'll have to endure a few turns until the other heroes shpw show up, only the enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements: OKG's [[OvermanKingGainer Cynthia Lane Lane]] and GXS's Ray. And like [[GunXSword Ray]]. Like Brunhilde above, in scenario 5, neither of them were with the [[OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]], but on their own team, yet here, fighting for themselves; however, they only attack you again. and you alone.
***
Finally, Mission scenario 8 is MORE Gainer bosses/mooks, ''Overman King Gainer'' bosses/{{mook}}s, PLUS Cynthia again, plus GXS's the [[GunXSword Diablo of Monday. Monday]]. This one is scenario's slighty easier, but if you want the GXS secret characters, ''GunXSword'' {{Secret Character}}s, [[GuideDangIt kill you must destroy the Diablo with Van]] or they're LostForever. Fortunately, after all this hell, the next mission is a very scenario's an easy BreatherLevel playing with the beginning of ''[[{{Zoids}} Zoids Genesis]]'', Genesis]]'' plot, only with more [[{{Gaiking}} Darius Empire]] mooks Empire grunts showing up chasing Zoids's [[MsFanservice [[{{Zoids}}s Kotona Elegance]] so there's an excuse to get her without [[TheBigGuy Garaga]] and [[TheSmartGuy Ron]] showing up as well.
** And besides that, there's all Any ''VirtualOn''-based scenarios: the ''VirtualOn'' missions (The first two are long, boring missions long and boring, set in corridors against mooks {{mook}}s with Map Attacks, MAP Weapons, while the last one is on an open field with more Mooks grunts like that AND EliteMooks with huge HP supplies AND the Attack Combo skill that allows them to crush your support units)) and the one playing Gundam SEED Stargazer (A "don't let the bad guys get to this point" mission... [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. On a game where everyone who doesn't goes into space in-series has a B as its Terrain Rating for... well, space, and terrains matter A LOT. See: [[LightningBruiser King Gainer]] getting hit easily and missing often.) Ouch.
**
units.
***
Scratch that, that: let's just say that any long corridor level (I'm corridor-based scenario is long and dull (we're looking at you, final Fafner mission) is long scenario).
** In one ''[[MobileSuitGundamSEED Mobile Suit Gundam SEED C.E. 73: Stargazer]]'' scenario, you must prevent any enemy unit from reaching a certain point...[[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. This sort of mission objective isn't a problem, except in a game where many series
and dull.
their respective mecha don't go ''into space'', they're stuck with a relatively low B-ranking for terrain rating (and terrain matters A LOT). To emphasize, a LightningBruiser such as King Gainer in ''K'' can easily get hit and often miss in space. Ouch.
* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot They Wasted A Perfectly Good Appearance]] (Despite ''Godannar'''s "proper" Appearance]]: Despite the proper [=SRW=] debut, appearance of ''Godannar'' (the series made its debut in ''Scramble Comannder 2''), units like the Goddinner, Genesister and Volspinner do not make an appearance, let alone even be mentioned in ''K'')
''K''.
** Their pilots ''do'' make appearances in some cutscenes though; though, just not their machinesmachines.



** Despite the changes to its storyline, ''SEED Destiny'' still got the short end of the stick in several areas. So what if the Minerva's [[spoiler:Captain Talia Gladys dies in the game]]? Let the players use it instead of the Archangel, for a change
** Also, Sky Buster Gaiking doesn't appear, despite the individual forms appearing as {{Combination Attack}}s
** K marks the first time the actual ''[[VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages)
* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact that ''K'' followed the fan-favorite ''[[SuperRobotWarsW W]]'', this was inevitable.

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** Despite the changes to its storyline, ''SEED Destiny'' still got the short end of the stick in several areas. So what if the Minerva's [[spoiler:Captain Talia Gladys dies in the game]]? Let the players use it instead of the Archangel, for a change
change.
** Also, Sky Buster Gaiking doesn't appear, despite the individual forms appearing as {{Combination Attack}}s
Attack}}s.
** K ''K'' marks the first time the actual ''[[VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages)
stages.
* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact that ''K'' followed the fan-favorite ''[[SuperRobotWarsW W]]'', ''SuperRobotWarsW'', this was inevitable.
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** K marks the first time the actual ''[[VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages)

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** K marks the first time the actual ''[[VirtualOn Virtual ON MARZ]]'' storyline debuts (since the cast treated their ''[[SuperRobotWarsAlpha Alpha 3]]'' appearance as a kind of "bonus level" from their world), yet you only get to control 4 of the 9 MARZ characters that are heroes and/or help the player on certain stages)stages)
* ToughActToFollow: Between the various issues and the fact that ''K'' followed the fan-favorite ''[[SuperRobotWarsW W]]'', this was inevitable.
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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[TheNeidermeyer Lee Linjun]] (or third, after [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.

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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[TheNeidermeyer Lee Linjun]] (or third, after [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Who, mind you, [[spoiler:sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy the EldritchAbomination that was ''RESPONSIBLE FOR MIST'S HOME WORLD GETTING DESTROYED'']]. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same.same, or some instances where he recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him...after berating other people for doing just that. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap (''SEED Destiny'': not only is Kira more reasonable (and doesn't attack your team on sight, but agrees to join them) and Cagalli's {{Chickification}} completely nullified, but the game goes out of its way to make [[TheScrappy Yuuna]] [[RomanticFalseLead Roma]] [[ButtMonkey Seinan]] a bit less of a coward and more caring towards Cagalli)

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap (''SEED Destiny'': not only is Kira more reasonable (and doesn't attack your team on sight, but agrees to join them) and Cagalli's {{Chickification}} completely nullified, but the game goes out of its way to make [[TheScrappy Yuuna]] [[RomanticFalseLead Roma]] [[ButtMonkey Seinan]] a bit less of a coward and more caring towards Cagalli)Cagalli, to the point where [[spoiler:he acknowledges his faults and steps aside when Cagalli forcibly takes command of Orb. Yuuna actually manages to LIVE through everything, on top of this.]])
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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[DrillSergeantNasty Lee Linjun]] (or third, after [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.

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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[DrillSergeantNasty [[TheNeidermeyer Lee Linjun]] (or third, after [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.
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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[DrillSergeantNasty Lee Linjun]]. He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.

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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[DrillSergeantNasty Lee Linjun]].Linjun]] (or third, after [[BigBadWannabe Wilhelm von Juergen]]). He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to screw with other fans.
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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''THE''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever. He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. In Japan, it's something of a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] to photoshop Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to playfully troll other fans.

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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''THE''' '''''THE''''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever.ever (and the second-most hated character period, just after [[DrillSergeantNasty Lee Linjun]]. He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. In Japan, it's something of Japan has a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] to photoshop involving photoshoping Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to playfully troll screw with other fans.
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* TheScrappy: Mist Rex is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, '''THE''' most hated ''SuperRobotWars'' protagonist ever. He spends most of the game complaining about how much better than Earth his homeworld is, and he acts like an asshole to the anime characters over their character flaws (berating [[ShinkonGattaiGodannar Go]] for his women troubles, telling [[GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting [[GundamSEEDDestiny Kira's]] idealistic pacifism, and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[OvermanKingGainer Gainer]], [[{{Zoids}} Ryuji]], and [[{{Gaiking}} Daiya]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as a fun adventure, completely glossing over [[spoiler:[[FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi's]]]] death. Made worse by the fact that a lot of his attitude is [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], such as one ending putting him in a harem situation after insulting Go for the very same. In Japan, it's something of a fandom [[MemeticMutation meme]] to photoshop Mist and his mecha into later ''SRW'' games to playfully troll other fans.

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** Parts-wise, the Orgone Cloud, which grants a level 3 barrier, double-image ability, ignore terrain penalties and a level 1 energy recovery. You can only get one by either inserting a ''SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' cartridge or through the shop on your 5th playthrough, and boy, is it worth the hassle of getting it

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** Parts-wise, the Orgone Cloud, which grants a level 3 barrier, double-image ability, ignore terrain penalties and a level 1 energy recovery. You can only get one by either inserting a ''SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' cartridge or through the shop on your 5th playthrough, and boy, is it worth the hassle of getting itit.
** The Multicombo system in K is a GameBreaker in general. With the combo skill at level 3, it lets any unit attack up to six enemies at once while bypass enemy support defense entirely. They are essentially short range MAP attacks, except without all the usual drawbacks of a MAP weapon like low ammo or reduced experience gain or allies not getting any will gains from your kills, so you are free to spam them to your heart's content right from the first turn.

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