History YMMV / SuikodenI

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Konami seemed to be aware that they didn't do a good job about the translation/localization back then, as seen with the main page's entry on BlindIdiotTranslation. Right on the announcement trailer of the CompilationRerelease for 2023, one of the first screens featured was the scene where the party witnessed the burning of the village of the Elves and Kirkis was shown saying the actual proper line of noticing the smokes (where originally Gremio ended up being the one who said the line). The lines will be redone to avoid their past mistakes.

* PlayerPunch: Quite a few, but one in particular established the PlayerPunch trend for future Suikodens: [[spoiler: Gremio's HeroicSacrifice in one of the most surreal [[DeathTrap Death Traps]] ever conceived.]]

** Leon Silverberg, who it seems is now content to live out his days in the ruins of a deserted village like an old hermit despite only being in his forties by the time the game starts. It gets worse when you read up on the backstory[[note]]Leon was a famed strategist for [[TheEmpire the Scarlet Moon Empire]] and resorted to a FalseFlagOperation that destroyed the town in question with most of its inhabitants in order to inflame Imperial tensions toward a war with neighboring Jowston. This was effective but basically turned him into a pariah in the Imperial court.[[/note]] It seems that this fractured his relationships with his family as well. Odessa and Mathiu fell out with him and it seems that his son, George (not named in the games proper but he is the father of [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Albert and Caesar Silverberg]] also fell out of contact with his father around this time, as Albert seems to have only met Leon once and Caesar doesn't mention remembering him at all. [[spoiler:Considering that both his niece Odessa and nephew Mathiu die by the end of the game and that he is truly alone without his family.]]

** Leon Silverberg, who it seems is now content to live out his days in the ruins of a deserted village like an old hermit despite only being in his forties by the time the game starts. It gets worse when you read up on the backstory[[note]]Leon was a famed strategist for [[TheEmpire the Scarlet Moon Empire]] and resorted to a FalseFlagOperation that destroyed the town in question with most of its inhabitants in order to inflame Imperial tensions toward a war with neighboring Jowston. This was effective but basically turned him into a pariah in the Imperial court.[[/note]] It seems that this fractured his relationships with his family as well. Odessa and Mathiu fell out with him and it seems that his son, George (not named in the games proper but he is the father of [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Albert and Caesar Silverberg]] also fell out of contact with his father around this time, as Albert seems to have only met Leon once and Caesar doesn't mention remembering him at all.
[[spoiler:Considering that both his niece Odessa and nephew Mathiu die by the end of the game and that he is truly alone without his family.]]

* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/{{Suikoden}} Has its own page.]]

** Leon Silverberg, who it seems is now content to live out his days in the ruins of a deserted village like an old hermit despite only being in his forties by the time the game starts.
It gets worse when you read up on the backstory[[note]]Leon was a famed strategist for [[TheEmpire the Scarlet Moon Empire]] and resorted to a FalseFlagOperation that destroyed the town in question with most of its inhabitants in order to inflame Imperial tensions toward a war with neighboring Jowston. This was effective but basically turned him into a pariah in the Imperial court.[[/note]] It seems that this fractured his relationships with his family as well. Odessa and Mathiu fell out with him and it seems that his son, George (not named in the games proper but he is the father of [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Albert and Caesar Silverberg]] also fell out of contact with his father around this time, as Albert seems to have only met Leon once and Caesar doesn't mention remembering him at all.

** Leon Silverberg, [[spoiler:considering that both his [[strike:children]] niece Odessa and nephew Mathiu die by the end of the game and that he is truly alone without his family.]]

* NighhtmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/Suikoden Has its own page.]]

* CompleteMonster: [[OurVampireAreDifferent Neclord]], once a power-hungry man who journeyed to the Blue Moon Village of peaceful vampires, willingly had himself made into a vampire. Stealing their Moon Rune, which had kept the [[HorrorHunger thirst for blood]] of the villagers at bay, the vampires were [[SadisticChoice forced to choose]] between killing to eat or starving. Joining with Windy, Neclord decimated villages to obtain more True Runes in the name of his avarice. Attacking the village of North Window, Neclord wiped out the population to revive them as an undead army for himself, doing the same to the soldiers of a fortress he was made governor of. Demanding a [[WouldHurtAChild young girl]] be sacrificed once per year to be his bride, the screams from Neclord's castle could be heard throughout the village. [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Returning to North Window]], Neclord abducts and murders women who stray too close. Trying to turn the population of Tinto City into yet another undead army, Neclord abducts more women to be his "brides".

* CompleteMonster: [[ObviouslyEvil Neclord]] the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampire]] first appeared in ''VideoGame/SuikodenI''. There once existed a place called Blue Moon Village, which was inhabited by peaceful vampires whose thirst for blood was satiated by the presence of the Moon Rune. Neclord, in his lust for power, allowed himself to be turned into a vampire, ingratiated himself into the village, then stole the rune from the village’s altar. This resulted in the vampires of the town being forced to [[SadisticChoice choose between killing people to extend their lives, or perish themselves]]. Desiring more power still, Neclord joined forces with [[BigBad Windy]] and decimated places like the Village of the Hidden Rune to obtain more True Runes. He also, [[ForTheEvulz on a whim]], attacked the village of North Window, killing and zombifying all its inhabitants to use as his undead army. He later did the same thing to the soldiers of Lorimar Fortress after Windy made him Lorimar’s governor. As governor, Neclord demanded that his people sacrifice him [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty one young girl a year to be his bride]]. Their screams from his castle could be heard by the villagers. After his defeat, Neclord [[VideoGame/SuikodenII returned to North Window]] and began abducting women who strayed too close to the village. When Viktor, a former North Window resident, returns to seek revenge on Neclord, Neclord responds by reviving Viktor’s LoveInterest, Daisy, whom Neclord had murdered. Neclord offered to bring Daisy back to life in exchange for the sword Viktor was going to use to kill him, however Viktor realized the dead couldn't be brought back except as zombies, and killed Daisy himself causing Neclord to flee. Eventually, Neclord attacked Tinto City, hoping to take it over and make a new zombie kingdom for himself. During this time he also abducted Lo Wen and Lilly Pendragon, the daughter of Tinto’s mayor, to be his brides.

* CompleteMonster: [[ObviouslyEvil Neclord]] the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampire]] first appeared in ''VideoGame/SuikodenI''. There once existed a place called Blue Moon Village, which was inhabited by peaceful vampires whose thirst for blood was satiated by the presence of the Blue Moon Rune. Neclord, in his lust for power, allowed himself to be turned into a vampire, ingratiated himself into the village, then stole the rune from the village’s altar. This resulted in the vampires of the town being forced to [[SadisticChoice choose between killing people to extend their lives, or perish themselves]]. Desiring more power still, Neclord joined forces with [[BigBad Windy]] and decimated places like the Village of the Hidden Rune to obtain more True Runes. He also, [[ForTheEvulz on a whim]], attacked the village of North Window, killing and zombifying all its inhabitants to use as his undead army. He later did the same thing to the soldiers of Lorimar Fortress after Windy made him Lorimar’s governor. As governor, Neclord demanded that his people sacrifice him [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty one young girl a year to be his bride]]. Their screams from his castle could be heard by the villagers. After his defeat, Neclord [[VideoGame/SuikodenII returned to North Window]] and began abducting women who strayed too close to the village. When Viktor, a former North Window resident, returns to seek revenge on Neclord, Neclord responds by reviving Viktor’s LoveInterest, Daisy, whom Neclord had murdered. Neclord offered to bring Daisy back to life in exchange for the sword Viktor was going to use to kill him, however Viktor realized the dead couldn't be brought back except as zombies, and killed Daisy himself causing Neclord to flee. Eventually, Neclord attacked Tinto City, hoping to take it over and make a new zombie kingdom for himself. During this time he also abducted Lo Wen and Lilly Pendragon, the daughter of Tinto’s mayor, to be his brides.

* CompleteMonster: [[ObviouslyEvil Neclord]] the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampire]]. There once existed a place called Blue Moon Village, which was inhabited by peaceful vampires whose thirst for blood was satiated by the presence of the Moon Rune. Neclord, in his lust for power, allowed himself to be turned into a vampire, ingratiated himself into the village, then stole the rune from the village’s altar. This resulted in the vampires of the town being forced to [[SadisticChoice choose between killing people to extend their lives, or perish themselves]]. Desiring more power still, Neclord joined forces with [[BigBad Windy]] and decimated places like the Village of the Hidden Rune to obtain more True Runes. He also, [[ForTheEvulz on a whim]], attacked the village of North Window, killing and zombifying all its inhabitants to use as his undead army. He later did the same thing to the soldiers of Lorimar Fortress after Windy made him Lorimar’s governor. As governor, Neclord demanded that his people sacrifice him [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty one young girl a year to be his bride]]. Their screams from his castle could be heard by the villagers. After his defeat, Neclord [[VideoGame/SuikodenII returned to North Window]]

* CompleteMonster: [[ObviouslyEvil Neclord]] the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampire]]. There once existed a place called Blue Moon Village, which was inhabited by peaceful vampires whose thirst for blood was satiated by the presence of the Blue Moon Rune. Neclord, in his lust for power, allowed himself to be turned into a vampire, ingratiated himself into the village, then stole the rune from the village’s altar. This resulted in the vampires of the town being forced to [[SadisticChoice choose between killing people to extend their lives, or perish themselves]]. Desiring more power still, Neclord joined forces with [[BigBad Windy]] and decimated places like the Village of the Hidden Rune to obtain more True Runes. He also, [[ForTheEvulz on a whim]], attacked the village of North Window, killing and zombifying all its inhabitants to use as his undead army. He later did the same thing to the soldiers of Lorimar Fortress after Windy made him Lorimar’s governor. As governor, Neclord demanded that his people sacrifice him [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty one young girl a year to be his bride]]. Their screams from his castle could be heard by the villagers. After his defeat, Neclord [[VideoGame/SuikodenII returned to North Window]]

** Neclord is incredibly tough, since you're stuck with THREE mandatory characters. Viktor might be fine since you might be using him quite a lot, but Cleo tends to be forgotten after getting your castle (which was way before), so she might be a few levels away from your main team, and then there's Hix, who's a newcomer and not exactly a stellar fighter. Take all those and there's Neclord himself: almost all of his attacks are party-hitting attack and he tends to spam those, or if he happens to attack a single party member, it was powerful enough to bring them to critical health. And he has a crapton of HP to make this a dangerous slugfest. He's much easier in [[VideoGame/SuikodenII the sequel]], but here, he's hard due to the [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness primitive design of magic system and inventory management]].

* {{Narm}}: Viktor says ''Pink Balloon'' during an otherwise serious scene.
* NarmCharm: The dragons look like dragons, act like dragons, and fly like dragons. What do they sound like when they roar? ''Elephants.''

* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Gremio's death.]]

** Another example is the DuelBoss [[spoiler:against Teo, using Pahn.]] If you haven't been using him, (which you aren't been required to after the beginning of the game), he'll be both on his own and underleveled for the fight, making it nearly impossible.]]. While you're not required to win to continue with the game, if you lose, [[spoiler:Pahn will die, which also locks you out of being able to get the GoldenEnding]]. Also, the closest to the fight that you can save is before a scripted war battle, so you have to sit through that again if you want to retry the fight.
* ThatOneSidequest: Recruiting Leon Silverberg. He can be easily found at [[DungeonTown Kalekka]] but will only joins after you HQ upgrades to Level 4 (when it will have a giant flag). The problem is that you have to talk to Mathiu in the War Room to get a letter and give it him, and depending of the situation, Mathiu will be away. After you begin the invasion of Shasarazade, Mathiu will no longer be in there, making Leon impossible to recruit.

** The inventory system. Instead of a having a dedicated and organized party inventory, every character has its own BagOfHolding that can carry up to nine items (including gear, acessories, medicine, miscellaneous items and PlotCoupons that only consume space). This became troublesome since you will be switching party members pretty often, and then lose track of who is holding what.

** Another example is [[spoiler: the first [[DuelBoss duel]] against Teo, using Pahn. If you haven't been using Pahn, (which you aren't been required to after the beginning of the game), he'll be both on his own and underleveled for the fight, making it nearly impossible.]]. While you're not required to win to continue with the game, if you lose, [[spoiler:Pahn will die, which also locks you out of being able to get the GoldenEnding]]. Also, the closest to the fight that you can save is before a scripted war battle, so you have to sit through that again if you want to retry the fight.

** You cannot dash by default. To be able to run, you need to either have Stallion in your party or equipping an Holy Rune, wasting the rune slot.

** There isn't a dash button. To run, you need to either have Stallion in your party or a Holy Rune.

* ScrappyMechanic: Unlike later games in the series, you are frequently forced to use particular party members besides the PlayerCharacter in this one, usually up to two or three at a time, even for TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. This limits party customization somewhat, and gives you very few chances to recruit one late Star, as you need four free party slots, and you only occasionally get them. ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' went on to address this with its convoy system.

* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Gremio's death.]]

* CompleteMonster: [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Neclord the vampire]]. There once existed a place called Blue Moon Village, which was inhabited by peaceful vampires whose thirst for blood was satiated by the presence of the Blue Moon Rune. Neclord, in his lust for power, allowed himself to be turned into a vampire, ingratiated himself into the village, then stole the rune from the village’s altar. This resulted in the vampires of the town being forced to [[SadisticChoice choose between killing people to extend their lives, or perish themselves]]. Desiring more power still, Neclord joined forces with [[BigBad Windy]] and decimated places like the Village of the Hidden Rune to obtain more True Runes. He also, [[ForTheEvulz on a whim]], attacked the village of North Window, killing and zombifying all its inhabitants to use as his undead army. He later did the same thing to the soldiers of Lorimar Fortress after Windy made him Lorimar’s governor. As governor, Neclord demanded that his people sacrifice him [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty one young girl a year to be his bride]]. Their screams from his castle could be heard by the villagers. After his defeat, Neclord [[VideoGame/SuikodenII returned to North Window]]