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* NightmareFuel: Niklas ''in spades''. The guy will ''hurt himself'' on stage all to invoke his anger and hatred on life. There's also the fact he wishes to invoke ''pain and suffering into the band's music to harm the listener''. [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny Not that hasn't worked]].
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period. The same could be said with Lifelover.

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* NightmareFuel: Niklas ''in spades''. The guy will ''hurt himself'' on stage all to invoke his anger and hatred on life. There's also the fact he wishes to invoke ''pain and suffering into the band's music to harm the listener''. [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny Not that hasn't worked]].
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: OnceOriginalNowCommon: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period. The same could be said with Lifelover.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Niklas Kvarforth.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album past the third one. An entire album can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song or an instrumental. It still manages to stay with the album's theme though.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith fifth track on any album past the third one. An entire album can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song or an instrumental. It still manages to stay with the album's theme though.
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*** This interpretation is partially confirmed with Niklas taking part in multiple documentaries about his struggle with mental illness, as well as the effects that "depressive" music can have on the psyche. Indeed, Niklas has noticably mellowed in recent years - while still sometimes combative on social media with people seeking to pick fights with him, posts and replies on both his own accounts and the accounts for both Shining and his label The Sinister Initiative often seem ''genuinely appreciative'' of the fanbase his music has accrued.

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*** This interpretation is partially confirmed with Niklas taking part in multiple documentaries about his struggle with mental illness, as well as the effects that "depressive" music can have on the psyche. Indeed, Niklas has noticably mellowed in recent years - while still sometimes combative on social media with people seeking to pick fights with him, posts and replies on both his own accounts and the accounts for both Shining and his label The Sinister Initiative often seem ''genuinely appreciative'' of the fanbase his music has accrued.
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*** This interpretation is partially confirmed with Niklas taking part in multiple documentaries about his struggle with mental illness, as well as the effects that "depressive" music can have on the psyche. Indeed, Niklas has noticably mellowed in recent years - while still sometimes combative on social media with people seeking to pick fights with him, posts and replies on both his own accounts and the accounts for both Shining and his label The Sinister Initiative often seem ''genuinely appreciative'' of the fanbase his music has accrued.

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* BaseBreaker: Niklas Kvarforth is for some. Many hail him as a musical genius, others are mystified by his MadArtist aspects and Misanthropic beliefs, but others find him to be an unbearable JerkAss and forces his beliefs onto others and find his shtick to be him trying too hard. The fact he constantly wants to ''harm listeners'' with his music doesn't help either.
** Naming their tour "No More Safe Spaces" also didn't endear them to many

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Niklas Kvarforth is for some.Kvarforth. Many hail him as a musical genius, others are mystified by his MadArtist aspects and Misanthropic beliefs, but others find him to be an unbearable JerkAss and forces his beliefs onto others and find his shtick to be him trying too hard. The fact he constantly wants to ''harm listeners'' with his music doesn't help either.
** Naming their tour "No More Safe Spaces" also didn't endear them to many
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* AwesomeMusic: ''Holy shit yes''. Even their early albums were epic.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Holy shit yes''. Even their early albums were epic.
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: How much of the antics is played up and how much of it is legitimate is up in the air, but it still remains that for someone who claims he wants his music to [[Main/DrivenToSuicide drive the listener to suicide]], Niklas is very affable and cordial in interviews ([[Main/BerserkButton to good interviewers]]) and other such "behind-the-scenes" footage of the band, even with [[Main/NotSafeForWork blood visibly dripping from self-harm wounds]].
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: How much of the antics is played up and how much of it is legitimate is up in the air, but it still remains that for someone who claims he wants his music to [[Main/DrivenToSuicide drive the listener to suicide]], Niklas is very affable and cordial in interviews ([[Main/BerserkButton to good interviewers]]) and other such "behind-the-scenes" footage of the band, even with [[Main/NotSafeForWork blood visibly dripping from self-harm wounds]].
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** Naming their tour "No More Safe Spaces" also didn't endear them to many
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* FandomRivalry: There has been a bit between fans of the Norwegian band and the Swedish band, largely owing to their names and somewhat similar styles in recent years. However, at least judging from last.fm, it's also kind of one-sided, since fans of the Norwegians (or at least of their later work) also tend to like the Swedes, but fans of the Swedes aren't always fans of the Norwegians.
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* ViewersAreGeniuses: "Åttiosextusenfyrahundra" from ''V. Halmstad'' will be noticed by fans by being an arrangement of "Moonlight Sonata" by LudwigVanBeethoven.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: "Åttiosextusenfyrahundra" from ''V. Halmstad'' will be noticed by fans by being an arrangement of "Moonlight Sonata" by LudwigVanBeethoven.Music/LudwigVanBeethoven.
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** Some fans usually interpret that Niklas suffers from different disorders hence his misanthropic tendencies, it also doesn't help this also may be influenced by his cocaine usage (which he has ''done on stage'').

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** Some fans usually interpret believe that Niklas suffers from different disorders disorders, hence his misanthropic tendencies, and that it also doesn't help this also may be influenced by his cocaine usage (which he has ''done on stage'').



*** There's also the fact at one point, he look a picture with him ''surrounded by several naked woman'', with Kim Carlsson (''also naked'') of Hypothermia and Music/{{Lifelover}} ontop of his waist. There's even another picture of him carressing Kim's ass!
** The band's music in general, does ''it really hurt the fans into doing horrible things to themselves''?

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*** There's also the fact at one point, he look a picture with him ''surrounded by several naked woman'', with Kim Carlsson (''also naked'') of Hypothermia and Music/{{Lifelover}} ontop on top of his waist. There's even another picture of him carressing caressing Kim's ass!
** The band's music in general, general: does ''it really hurt the fans into doing horrible things to themselves''?



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed the third one. An entire album can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song or an instrumental. It still manages to stay with the album's theme though.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed past the third one. An entire album can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song or an instrumental. It still manages to stay with the album's theme though.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period, same could be said with Lifelover.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period, period. The same could be said with Lifelover.



* ViewersAreGeniuses: "Åttiosextusenfyrahundra" from ''V.Halmstead'' will be noticed by fans by being an arrangement of "Moonlight Sonata" by LudwigVanBeethoven.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: "Åttiosextusenfyrahundra" from ''V.Halmstead'' Halmstad'' will be noticed by fans by being an arrangement of "Moonlight Sonata" by LudwigVanBeethoven.
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* MagnumOpus: Fans will say either ''Redefining Darkness'' or ''V. Halmstad (Niklas angående Niklas)''.
** Some fans may say ''IV: The Eerie Cold'' as well, though ''Halmstad'' seems to be the most popular choice.
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** Some fans may say ''IV: The Eerie Cold'' as well, though ''Halmstad'' seems to be the most popular choice.
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* NotSafeForWork: Let's just say...''some things'' have happened on Stage with Niklas.

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* NotSafeForWork: Let's just say...''some things'' have happened on Stage stage with Niklas.Niklas.
** The music video for "Tillsammans är vi allt". ''Holy shit''.
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* MagnumOpus: Fans will say either ''Redefining Darkness'' or ''V. - Halmstad (Niklas angående Niklas)''.

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* MagnumOpus: Fans will say either ''Redefining Darkness'' or ''V. - Halmstad (Niklas angående Niklas)''.
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* MagnumOpus: Fans will say either ''Redefining Darkness'' or ''V. - Halmstad (Niklas angående Niklas)''.
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* BaseBreaker: Niklas Kvarforth is for some. Many hail him as a musical genius, others are mystified by his MadArtist aspects and Misanthropic beliefs, but others find him to be an unbearable JerkAss and forces his beliefs onto others and find his shtick to be him trying too hard. The fact he constantly wants to ''harm listeners'' with his music doesn't help either.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed the third one. An entire album can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song..or an instrumental. This can be a bit subverted however due to the fact it keeps with the theme of the album.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed the third one. An entire album can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song..song or an instrumental. This can be a bit subverted however due It still manages to the fact it keeps stay with the album's theme of the album.though.
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*** There's also the fact at one point, he look a picture with him ''surrounded by several naked woman'', with Kim Carlsson (''also naked'') of Hypothermia and Lifelover ontop of his waist. There's even another picture of him carressing Kim's ass!

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*** There's also the fact at one point, he look a picture with him ''surrounded by several naked woman'', with Kim Carlsson (''also naked'') of Hypothermia and Lifelover Music/{{Lifelover}} ontop of his waist. There's even another picture of him carressing Kim's ass!



* HoYay: Due to Niklas's debated sexuality, there's a lot of this with Hoest of Taake, his bandmates, and as of late, Kim Carlsson of Hypothermia/Lifelover.

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* HoYay: Due to Niklas's debated sexuality, there's a lot of this with Hoest of Taake, his bandmates, and as of late, Kim Carlsson of Hypothermia/Lifelover.Hypothermia/Music/{{Lifelover}}.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: The cover album ''8 ½ - Feberdrömmar i vaket tillstånd'' is largely ignored by fans, due to: 1. It not being an actual album release, just being a CoverAlbum, and 2. It's basically rehashing old Shining songs and covering them with different artists.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: The cover album ''8 ½ - Feberdrömmar i vaket tillstånd'' is largely ignored by fans, due to: 1. It not being an actual album release, just being a CoverAlbum, and 2. It's basically rehashing old Shining songs and covering them with different artists. While this is a good idea, some of the covers come off as weak and unnecessary.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: The cover album ''8 ½ - Feberdrömmar i vaket tillstånd'' is largely ignored by fans, due to: 1. It not being an actual album release, just being a CoverAlbum, and 2. It's basically rehashing old Shining songs and covering them with different artists.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Niklas a horrible person who wishes others to harm themselves because of his misathropic beliefs? Or is he actually a guy who is severely depressed and holds himself up as the character he is in order to make others suffer like he is.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Niklas a horrible person who wishes others to harm themselves because of his misathropic beliefs? Or is he actually a guy who is severely depressed and holds himself up as the character he is in order to make others suffer like he is. hide his pain?



** Is Kvarforth a bisexual, usual theories range from how he's kissed some of his bandmates, the most famous is kissing Hoest of Taake.

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** Is Kvarforth a bisexual, usual bisexual? Usual theories range from how he's kissed some of his bandmates, the most famous is kissing Hoest of Taake.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed the third one. The entire album is heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song..or an instrumental. This can be a bit subverted however due to the fact it keeps with the theme of the album.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed the third one. The An entire album is can be heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song..or an instrumental. This can be a bit subverted however due to the fact it keeps with the theme of the album.
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* WhenHeSmiles: Despite the controversial output Niklas puts, a lot of people to feel he ''is'' a decent person, and his whole output is just for the band's image, especially when he starts doing [[https://31.media.tumblr.com/8b931e86340eaf2e809ecc3002576333/tumblr_n54rdpmoJk1tqyxz9o5_500.gif this stuff to his fans]].

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* WhenHeSmiles: Despite the controversial output Niklas puts, has, a lot of people to feel he ''is'' a decent person, and his whole output stance is just for the band's image, especially when he starts doing [[https://31.media.tumblr.com/8b931e86340eaf2e809ecc3002576333/tumblr_n54rdpmoJk1tqyxz9o5_500.gif this stuff to his fans]].
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* NightmareFuel: Niklas ''in spades''. The guy will ''hurt himself'' on stage all to invoke his anger and hatred on life. There's also the fact he wishes to invoke ''pain and suffering into the band's music to harm the listener''. [[SeinfieldIsUnfunny Not that hasn't worked]].
* SeinfieldIsUnfunny: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period, same could be said with Lifelover.

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* NightmareFuel: Niklas ''in spades''. The guy will ''hurt himself'' on stage all to invoke his anger and hatred on life. There's also the fact he wishes to invoke ''pain and suffering into the band's music to harm the listener''. [[SeinfieldIsUnfunny [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny Not that hasn't worked]].
* SeinfieldIsUnfunny: SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period, same could be said with Lifelover.
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* The band's music in general, does ''it really hurt the fans into doing horrible things to themselves''?

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* ** The band's music in general, does ''it really hurt the fans into doing horrible things to themselves''?
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* AlternativeCharacterIntereptation: Is Niklas a horrible person who wishes others to harm themselves because of his misathropic beliefs? Or is he actually a guy who is severely depressed and holds himself up as the character he is in order to make others suffer like he is.

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* AlternativeCharacterIntereptation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is Niklas a horrible person who wishes others to harm themselves because of his misathropic beliefs? Or is he actually a guy who is severely depressed and holds himself up as the character he is in order to make others suffer like he is.

































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*AlternativeCharacterIntereptation: Is Niklas a horrible person who wishes others to harm themselves because of his misathropic beliefs? Or is he actually a guy who is severely depressed and holds himself up as the character he is in order to make others suffer like he is.
** Some fans usually interpret that Niklas suffers from different disorders hence his misanthropic tendencies, it also doesn't help this also may be influenced by his cocaine usage (which he has ''done on stage'').
** Is Kvarforth a bisexual, usual theories range from how he's kissed some of his bandmates, the most famous is kissing Hoest of Taake.
*** There's also the fact at one point, he look a picture with him ''surrounded by several naked woman'', with Kim Carlsson (''also naked'') of Hypothermia and Lifelover ontop of his waist. There's even another picture of him carressing Kim's ass!
*The band's music in general, does ''it really hurt the fans into doing horrible things to themselves''?

*AwesomeMusic: ''Holy shit yes''. Even their early albums were epic.

*BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The fith track on any album passed the third one. The entire album is heavy, dark, and brooding...and then you're hit with either an electronic-like song..or an instrumental. This can be a bit subverted however due to the fact it keeps with the theme of the album.

*CreepyAwesome: The band's music is all about depression and suicide, and has a huge fanbase.
** Niklas is this for ''a lot'' of people.

*DracoInLeatherPants: Niklas will look like this for some people, even though the man is basically a walking psycho.

*HoYay: Due to Niklas's debated sexuality, there's a lot of this with Hoest of Taake, his bandmates, and as of late, Kim Carlsson of Hypothermia/Lifelover.
** Speaking of Kim, [[https://40.media.tumblr.com/f65fea3e172753dd15421da6e0cdf368/tumblr_mfalpqtUcl1rv19yoo1_500.jpg this image]] will usually spark this trope.
** Maniac of Mayhem also seems to veer into this trope as well with him, especially considering they both have a side project together.

*FaceOfTheBand: Niklas Kvarforth.

*NotSafeForWork: Let's just say...''some things'' have happened on Stage with Niklas.

*NightmareFuel: Niklas ''in spades''. The guy will ''hurt himself'' on stage all to invoke his anger and hatred on life. There's also the fact he wishes to invoke ''pain and suffering into the band's music to harm the listener''. [[SeinfieldIsUnfunny Not that hasn't worked]].

*SeinfieldIsUnfunny: While Shining is still considered a great band, their style of black metal is usually copied, ranging from the suicidal topics to even the blood cutting period, same could be said with Lifelover.
** Discussed by Niklas in an interview, when he denounced the term "Suicidal Black Metal" due to many bands taking his style and misinterpreting it.

*WhenHeSmiles: Despite the controversial output Niklas puts, a lot of people to feel he ''is'' a decent person, and his whole output is just for the band's image, especially when he starts doing [[https://31.media.tumblr.com/8b931e86340eaf2e809ecc3002576333/tumblr_n54rdpmoJk1tqyxz9o5_500.gif this stuff to his fans]].

*ViewersAreGeniuses: "Åttiosextusenfyrahundra" from ''V.Halmstead'' will be noticed by fans by being an arrangement of "Moonlight Sonata" by LudwigVanBeethoven.

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