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* MemeticMutation: "Whatever he hits... he ''destroys''!"
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* Padding: The film is fairly short already at 89 minutes. If you take out the end credits, the obligatory repeating of the final scene of Rocky III as the opening scene to this movie, and a somewhat baffling midpoint montage of moments from Rocky movies including Rocky IV itself, the film actually contains closer to about 75 minutes of new footage. And ''that'' 75 minutes is further watered down by [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAMs]] and montages, meaning the story itself is less than an hour.
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* Padding: {{Padding}}: The film is fairly short already at 89 minutes. If you take out the end credits, the obligatory repeating of the final scene of Rocky III as the opening scene to this movie, and a somewhat baffling midpoint montage of moments from Rocky movies including Rocky IV itself, the film actually contains closer to about 75 minutes of new footage. And ''that'' 75 minutes is further watered down by [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAMs]] and montages, meaning the story itself is less than an hour.
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** Apollo dies in the ring fighting against Ivan Drago. Years later, ''Film/Creed'' reveals that Apollo had an affair outside of marriage, resulting in a son. That puts a new light on his actions and motivations in this film. Was his infidelity and hunger to regain his former glory signs of a mid-life crisis? Or did he knowingly step into the ring with a devastatingly powerful and ruthless fighter many times his size and younger to boot as a way of paying for his indiscretions?
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** Apollo dies in the ring fighting against Ivan Drago. Years later, ''Film/Creed'' ''Film/{{Creed}}'' reveals that Apollo had an affair outside of marriage, resulting in a son. That puts a new light on his actions and motivations in this film. Was his infidelity and hunger to regain his former glory signs of a mid-life crisis? Or did he knowingly step into the ring with a devastatingly powerful and ruthless fighter many times his size and younger to boot as a way of paying for his indiscretions?
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** Apollo dies in the ring fighting against Ivan Drago. Years later, ''Film/Creed'' reveals that Apollo had an affair outside of marriage, resulting in a son. That puts a new light on his actions and motivations in this film. Was his infidelity and hunger to regain his former glory signs of a mid-life crisis? Or did he knowingly step into the ring with a devastatingly powerful and ruthless fighter many times his size and younger to boot as a way of paying for his indiscretions?
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** Drago manhandling a member of the Politboro (regardless of the provocation) in front of a huge crowd of Soviet fans probably didn't go over well, either.
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* Padding: The film is fairly short already at 89 minutes. If you take out the end credits, the obligatory repeating of the final scene of Rocky III as the opening scene to this movie, and a somewhat baffling midpoint montage of moments from Rocky movies including Rocky IV itself, the film actually contains closer to about 75 minutes of new footage. And ''that'' 75 minutes is further watered down by [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment BLAMs]] and montages, meaning the story itself is less than an hour.
** There are two extended training montages that go on for 9 minutes together, nearly twice as much as the montage in the second movie and nearly three times the montage in the first.
** James Brown's "Living in America" musical number goes on for 5 minutes.
** The bizarre subplot where Paulie receives an extremely sophisticated robot as a birthday present takes another few minutes.
** There are two extended training montages that go on for 9 minutes together, nearly twice as much as the montage in the second movie and nearly three times the montage in the first.
** James Brown's "Living in America" musical number goes on for 5 minutes.
** The bizarre subplot where Paulie receives an extremely sophisticated robot as a birthday present takes another few minutes.
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** The main villain of the movie being a [[TheJuggernaut nigh-unstoppable]] HuskyRusky boxer looks oddly prescient today. At the time, Soviet boxers weren't allowed to compete, but tended to dominate at the Olympics. In the late 90s, as the Iron Curtain laid dormant and ex-Warsaw Pact countries started allowing their boxers to compete in international competition, Eastern European boxers quickly took over the scene, especially in the cruiserweight and heavyweight divisions. Ex-[=WarPac=] heavyweight champions after 1999 included Vitali Klitschko (Ukrainian), Nikolai Valuev (Russian), Siarhei Liakhovich (Belarusian), Oleg Maskayev (Russian), Ruslan Chagaev (Tatar), Sultan Ibragimov (Russo-Dagestani), and Alexander Povetkin (Russian).[[note]]Andrew Golota (Polish) also ''would'' have been a heavyweight champion if not for exceptionally corrupt judgement in a fight he clearly won against John Ruiz. Also him [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat deciding to throw low blows]] against Riddick Bowe after dominating him for the entire fight.[[/note]] Currently the statistically most successful heavyweight champion of all time (longest reign, most defenses, longest undefeated streak, etc.) is a Ukrainian, Wladimir Klitschko, who has a rather similar physique to Drago (he's a more personable, thankfully).
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** [[ArtisticLicenseMartialArts "These guys landed 91% of their power punches, that's unheard of!"]][[note]]The choreography isn't stellar. Rocky and Drago just take turns delivering power punches to their opponent's unprotected face. They barely even put their gloves up, much less make any attempt to dodge or weave. For comparison, in the recent heavyweight title fight between the top ranked Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, the fighters landed 36% and 17% of their power punches, respectively.[[/note]]
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** An interpretation of Apollo Creed is that he's fed up with retirement and growing old gracefully, and [[DeathSeeker wants to go out fighting like a warrior]]. Some dialogue in ''Film/{{Creed}}'' strongly implies this is the case.
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** An interpretation of Apollo Creed is that he's fed up with retirement and growing old gracefully, and [[DeathSeeker wants to go out fighting like a warrior]]. Some dialogue in ''Film/{{Creed}}'' strongly implies this is the case. There's Apollo's line at the end of ''Film/RockyIII'':
-->'''Apollo:''' You know Stallion... it's too bad we gotta get old, huh?
-->'''Apollo:''' You know Stallion... it's too bad we gotta get old, huh?
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* CriticProof: It got fairly poor reviews even at the time, yet remains to this day the highest grossing Rocky/Creed film ''by far''.
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** Drago's loud proclamation that only fights for himself and not his country, while brave, also no doubt played a large part in him being exiled from the Soviet Union. As far as they were concerned, if Drago wouldn't fight for them, he was useless. It makes you think that if Drago had kept his mouth shut, they ''may have given him a second chance.
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** Drago's loud proclamation that he only fights for himself and not his country, while brave, also no doubt played a large part in him being exiled from the Soviet Union. As far as they were concerned, if Drago wouldn't fight for them, he was useless. It makes you think that if Drago had kept his mouth shut, they ''may ''may'' have given him a second chance.
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** Drago's loud proclamation that only fights for himself and not his country, while brave, also no doubt played a large part in him being exiled from the Soviet Union. As far as they were concerned, if Drago wouldn't fight for them, he was useless. It makes you think that if Drago had kept his mouth shut, they ''may have given him a second chance.
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** Then there is Rocky's "You'd never be rid of me" promise to Adrian. Cue Rocky Balboa decade's later.
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** The depiction of the new (at the time) Soviet premiere Mikhail Gorbachev. While Gorbachev wasn't exactly "nice," his public persona made him look like a peaceful wise leader. And this worked extremely well in America and elsewhere in the West (the infamous "Gorbymania"), making his depiction in this movie hilariously stand out.
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** The depiction of the new (at the time) Soviet premiere Mikhail Gorbachev.UsefulNotes/MikhailGorbachev. While Gorbachev wasn't exactly "nice," his public persona made him look like a peaceful wise leader. And this worked extremely well in America and elsewhere in the West (the infamous "Gorbymania"), making his depiction in this movie hilariously stand out.
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* MemeticBadass: Ivan Drago. A lot of Youtube comments joke that an sniper was prepared to kill him, but either him ''or the bullet'' were too scared to go near him.
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* MemeticBadass: Ivan Drago. A lot of Youtube Website/YouTube comments joke that an a sniper was prepared to kill him, but either him ''or the bullet'' were too scared to go near him.
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*** A few decades since his death Rocky is still remorseful in not doing anything to prevent Apollo's death.
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* CreatorBacklash: A minor example; Stallone (who directed) was happy with how the film came out, but has mentioned he's regretted not having Bill Conti compose the score.
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* CrazyAwesome: Rocky's training montage out in the Russian wilderness. It starts with him outrunning his Russian security detail and ends with him ''climbing a mountain seemingly with '''no''' gear'', just to ''bellow Drago's name''.
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* CreatorBacklash: A minor example; Stallone (who directed) was happy with how the film came out, but has mentioned he's regretted not having Bill Conti compose the score.
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* FightSceneFailure: "[[Website/CollegeHumor Just to give an idea how hard these guys were punching, sometimes the punch didn't even land but their head flew back anyways, like from the air or something.]]"
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* FightSceneFailure: "[[Website/CollegeHumor [[Website/CollegeHumor Just to give you an idea how hard these guys were punching, sometimes the punch didn't even land but their head flew back anyways, like from the air or something.]]"]]
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***"[[Website/CollegeHumor Creed is clearly exhausted by the dance number he did with James Brown five minutes earlier, and before the second round is over... that’s it.]]”
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* MemeticBadass: Ivan Drago. A lot of Youtube comments joke that an sniper was prepared to kill him, but either him ''or the bullet'' were too scared to go near him.
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** Apollo Creed's entrance in his fight against Drago. It starts with an over the top performance that belongs more to a Broadway musical than a boxing ring, has James Brown singing, and has Apollo dressed up as Uncle Sam and dancing. Drago, who is usually TheStoic, [[OutOfCharacterMoment is utterly bewildered by this spectacle]], and probably qualifies as the OnlySaneMan for this scene. Even Rocky seems somewhat embarrassed, as when Adrian looks at Rocky at one point like, "How long is this gonna go?" Rocky's return gesture is like, "Beats me, this ain't my idea!"
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** Apollo Creed's entrance in his fight against Drago. It starts with an over the top performance that belongs more to a Broadway musical than a boxing ring, has James Brown Music/JamesBrown singing, and has Apollo dressed up as Uncle Sam and dancing. Drago, who is usually TheStoic, [[OutOfCharacterMoment is utterly bewildered by this spectacle]], and probably qualifies as the OnlySaneMan for this scene. Even Rocky seems somewhat embarrassed, as when Adrian looks at Rocky at one point like, "How long is this gonna go?" Rocky's return gesture is like, "Beats me, this ain't my idea!"
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* NightmareFuel: Drago's horrific beatdown of Apollo, which is also a tragic reminder of the risk boxers take whenever they step foot in the ring.
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* FairForItsDay: The film is often mocked today for delivering a BrokenAesop in the end, where Rocky tries to promote peace between the US and the Soviets. This wouldn't have been so bad, had he not made that speech just after beating the crap out of their Russian champion Ivan Drago on national television. Still, misplaced as it was, movies that portrayed Russia in any sympathetic light at all in the mid-80s height of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar were pretty hard to find.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the Magazine/{{MAD}} spoof, after Apollo Creed dies, Adrian mentions being nervous because Mickey died in ''III'', and now Apollo, meaning she's next if there's a ''V''. While she doesn't die in ''V'', she does die between then and ''Balboa''.
* HarsherInHindsight: As if Apollo's death wasn't bad enough, thirty years later we learn about the effect it had on his unborn son in the spin-off film ''Film/{{Creed}}''.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the Magazine/{{MAD}} spoof, after Apollo Creed dies, Adrian mentions being nervous because Mickey died in ''III'', and now Apollo, meaning she's next if there's a ''V''. While she doesn't die in ''V'', she does die between then and ''Balboa''.
* HarsherInHindsight: As if Apollo's death wasn't bad enough, thirty years later we learn about the effect it had on his unborn son in the spin-off film ''Film/{{Creed}}''.
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* FairForItsDay: The film As with most Cold War-era films featuring Russians as the villains, the Russians are cartoonish, but Rocky's speech at the end is often mocked today notable in calling for delivering a BrokenAesop in the end, where Rocky tries to promote peace between the US and the Soviets. This wouldn't have been so bad, had he not made that speech just after beating the crap out of their Russian champion Ivan Drago on national television. Still, misplaced as it was, movies that portrayed Russia in any sympathetic light at all in the mid-80s height of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar were pretty hard to find.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the Magazine/{{MAD}} spoof, after Apollo Creed dies, Adrian mentionstwo nations rather than simply being nervous because Mickey died in ''III'', and now Apollo, meaning she's next if there's a ''V''. While she doesn't die in ''V'', she does die between then and ''Balboa''.
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** As if Apollo's death wasn't bad enough, thirty years later we learn about the effect it had on his unborn son in the spin-off film ''Film/{{Creed}}''.
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** As if Apollo's death wasn't bad enough, thirty years later we learn about the effect it had on his unborn son in the spin-off film ''Film/{{Creed}}''.
* NarmCharm: The overwrought tragedy of Apollo's death, the outdated UsefulNotes/ColdWar patriotism, the cartoonish Russians, and the Rocky's {{Anvilicious}} speech are all generally taken by fans as part of the film's appeal.
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* SoBadItsGood: ''Rocky IV'' is often considered as this (in contrast with ''V'', which is just considered bad), what with the over-the-topness, good ol' UsefulNotes/ColdWar patriotism, as well as the antagonist's one-dimensional character and Rocky's [[{{Narm}} narmy]] speech at the end.
* StrawmanPolitical: One of the most cartoonishly negative depictions of the USSR in American media, which is saying something. The Russian characters are a near-silent, hulking muscleman with [[LackOfEmpathy little empathy]] towards his opponents, his wife who ''smiles gleefully when Apollo dies'', and their {{Jerkass}} promoter, a Communist functionary who spends the whole film baiting Apollo, Rocky and insulting America. Even Ken Begg of Jabootu's Bad Movie Dimension, an avowed conservative, [[http://jabootu.net/?p=2136 found the movie's Red baiting over the top]]:
-->''"Reducing a real life, malign totalitarian regime to the level of bad comic book villainy actually undermines a rational explication of Communism’s evil. The problem with the Soviet Union wasn’t that it was breeding a super-race of fighters to come here and snap the necks of our championship boxers."''
* StrawmanPolitical: One of the most cartoonishly negative depictions of the USSR in American media, which is saying something. The Russian characters are a near-silent, hulking muscleman with [[LackOfEmpathy little empathy]] towards his opponents, his wife who ''smiles gleefully when Apollo dies'', and their {{Jerkass}} promoter, a Communist functionary who spends the whole film baiting Apollo, Rocky and insulting America. Even Ken Begg of Jabootu's Bad Movie Dimension, an avowed conservative, [[http://jabootu.net/?p=2136 found the movie's Red baiting over the top]]:
-->''"Reducing a real life, malign totalitarian regime to the level of bad comic book villainy actually undermines a rational explication of Communism’s evil. The problem with the Soviet Union wasn’t that it was breeding a super-race of fighters to come here and snap the necks of our championship boxers."''
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** Who ''is'' Ivan Drago, anyway? It's implied that he's been bred to box, has had steroids and blood-doping up the wazoo, and is supposed to support the State 24/7. He's treated like an object by his government and we're never told what he wants. When he says "I must break you", he means it - he ''must'' because he has no options. When he says, "If he dies, he dies", is he talking about Apollo or himself?
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* MoralEventHorizon: Drago's NoHoldsBarredBeatDown of Apollo, resulting in his death. A blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment is he pushes away the referee who was trying to break it up, implying he ''[[AxCrazy consciously meant to kill Apollo]]''. What he say's afterwards grinds in what kind of person he is.
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* ContestedSequel: Possibly the most polarizing entry in the franchise, with seemingly equal amounts of defenders and detractors. While its fans love the emotional story of Rocky avenging Apollo, the training montages and soundtrack, and Ivan Drago, its critics bring up issues with the tone being a severe contrast to the earlier films, as well as the rather cartoonish patriotism and depiction of the Soviet Union. And there are some who admit that the film is heavily flawed, but can't help but enjoy it [[SoBadItsGood due to the sheer '80s cheese]] and [[RuleOfCool over-the-top awesomeness]] on display.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Possibly the most polarizing entry in the franchise, with seemingly equal amounts of defenders and detractors. While its fans love the emotional story of Rocky avenging Apollo, the training montages and soundtrack, and Ivan Drago, its critics bring up issues with the tone being a severe contrast to the earlier films, as well as the rather cartoonish patriotism and depiction of the Soviet Union. And there are some who admit that the film is heavily flawed, but can't help but enjoy it [[SoBadItsGood due to the sheer '80s cheese]] and [[RuleOfCool over-the-top awesomeness]] on display.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Possibly the most polarizing entry in the franchise, with seemingly equal amounts of defenders and detractors. While its fans love the emotional story of Rocky avenging Apollo, the training montages and soundtrack, and Ivan Drago, its critics bring up issues with the tone being a severe contrast to the earlier films, as well as the rather cartoonish patriotism and depiction of the Soviet Union. And there are some who admit that the film is heavily flawed, but can't help but enjoy it [[SoBadItsGood due to the sheer '80s cheese]] and [[RuleOfCool over-the-top awesomeness]] on display.
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* VindicatedByHistory: Sort of. It's still considered a terrible film, but the way ''Film/{{Creed}}'' was able to use Apollo's death to launch its own story, which is now regarded as the best the series has been since the first film, gives it a more respectable place in the franchise.
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* VindicatedByHistory: Sort of. It's still considered a terrible film, film by many, but the way ''Film/{{Creed}}'' was able to use Apollo's death to launch its own story, which is now regarded as the best the series has been since the first film, gives it a more respectable place in the franchise.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the Magazine/{{MAD}} spoof of ''Rocky IV'', after Apollo Creed dies, Adrian mentions being nervous because Mickey died in ''III'', and now Apollo, meaning she's next if there's a ''V''. While she doesn't die in ''V'', she does die between then and ''Balboa''.
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* FairForItsDay: The film is often mocked today for delivering a BrokenAesop in the end, where Rocky tries to promote peace between the US and the Soviets. This wouldn't have been so bad, had he not made that speech just after beating the crap out of their Russian champion Ivan Drago on national television. Still, misplaced as it was, movies that portrayed Russia in any sympathetic light at all in the mid-80s height of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar were pretty hard to find.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the Magazine/{{MAD}}spoof of ''Rocky IV'', spoof, after Apollo Creed dies, Adrian mentions being nervous because Mickey died in ''III'', and now Apollo, meaning she's next if there's a ''V''. While she doesn't die in ''V'', she does die between then and ''Balboa''.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the Magazine/{{MAD}}