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* HilariousInHindsight:
** In the Japanese dub, Goldie was voiced by the late Creator/YukoMizutani, who years later will voice another MsFanservice girl [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration while dressed as a playboy bunny]].
** Also from the same dubbed version, Creator/IkueOtani's role as Edmund is this, considering [[VideoGame/Persona5 she voiced another cat a few decades later]].
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* QuestionableCasting: Glen Campbell seems like an odd choice for Chanticleer as Campbell's music was hardly Music/ElvisPresley-esque. As it turns out though, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cce2vCYb6U when Glen was much younger, he actually worked as an]] ElvisImpersonator, so that may have had something to do with him being cast. It didn't do his career any favors in the end, however.



* WTHCastingAgency: Glen Campbell seems like an odd choice for Chanticleer as Campbell's music was hardly Music/ElvisPresley-esque. As it turns out though, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cce2vCYb6U when Glen was much younger, he actually worked as an]] ElvisImpersonator, so that may have had something to do with him being cast. It didn't do his career any favors in the end, however.
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** The film has many noticeable animation errors and obvious pseudo-3D sequences. Overall, it looks like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of TheEighties (''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', and ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'').

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** The film has many noticeable animation errors and obvious pseudo-3D shoddy live action sequences. Overall, it looks like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of TheEighties (''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', and ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'').
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** The film has many noticeable animation errors, and overall feels like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of TheEighties (''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', and ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'').

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** The film has many noticeable animation errors, errors and overall feels obvious pseudo-3D sequences. Overall, it looks like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of TheEighties (''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', and ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'').
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** By the same token, some wanted to see Hunch [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain in spite of or perhaps because of his failures]] to get some affection from his EvilUncle due to the sheer effort he does in order to accomplish it.

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** By the same token, some wanted to see Hunch [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain in spite of or perhaps because of his failures]] to [[WellDoneSonGuy get some affection affection]] from his EvilUncle due to the sheer effort he does in order to accomplish it.
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** Some of the lyrics to the song ''Rock-a-Doodle'', such as "Well, it ain't right to rock alone. It takes two, I do believe. I wanna rock-a-doodle doodle to you (To you). Like you rock-a-doodle doodle to me." Is Chanticleer singing about dancing [[SexTropes or...?]]

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** Some of the lyrics to the song ''Rock-a-Doodle'', such as "Well, it ain't right to rock alone. It takes two, I do believe. I wanna rock-a-doodle doodle to you (To you). Like you rock-a-doodle doodle to me." Is Chanticleer singing about dancing [[SexTropes [[IntercourseWithYou or...?]]

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* TearJerker: Seeing the other animals mourn for Edmund after he is strangled by the Grand Duke of Owls is truly saddening, especially when they see him transform into a real boy the entire time. Peepers is especially moved by this, and tries to wake him just as he seemingly returns to the real world.
** Even the music playing over the end credits becomes surprisingly somber the longer they go, which may make some just a bit misty-eyed before they finally close out.
*** In the beginning, Chanticleer after fighting an enemy rooster sent by the Duke, sees the sun rise without him- destroying everything he believed his purpose to be in raising the sun with his voice- heavily implied to be have inherited from his father as a part of a generational inheritance- and the majority of his fellow farm animals turning on him for "deceiving" them the entire time when he had no idea what was happening with the sun at that time; by mocking and casting him out as a fraudulent pariah- with Snipes twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic "cock-a-doodle-doo", which made the poor Rooster go into the city, becoming a dispassionate singer who doesn't believe in himself for most of the movie.
** Hunch, [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain in spite of, or because of his incompetence]], while overshadowed by the main plot, being emotionally and physically abused by his EvilUncle, who takes opportunities to change him into degrading forms, pretend to be accepting before he insults/punishes him, and verbally threatens him with [[ImpliedDeathThreat threats to kill him.]] Regardless of his villainy, it's pitiful to see this scrawny owl desperately trying to win the affection of an uncle that sees him as a tool at best or something abhorrent at worst.

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* TearJerker: Seeing [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TearJerker/RockADoodle Here is the other animals mourn for Edmund after he is strangled by the Grand Duke of Owls is truly saddening, especially when they see him transform into a real boy the entire time. Peepers is especially moved by this, and tries to wake him just as he seemingly returns to the real world.
** Even the music playing over the end credits becomes surprisingly somber the longer they go, which may make some just a bit misty-eyed before they finally close out.
*** In the beginning, Chanticleer after fighting an enemy rooster sent by the Duke, sees the sun rise without him- destroying everything he believed his purpose to be in raising the sun with his voice- heavily implied to be have inherited from his father as a part of a generational inheritance- and the majority of his fellow farm animals turning on him for "deceiving" them the entire time when he had no idea what was happening with the sun at that time; by mocking and casting him out as a fraudulent pariah- with Snipes twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic "cock-a-doodle-doo", which made the poor Rooster go into the city, becoming a dispassionate singer who doesn't believe in himself for most of the movie.
** Hunch, [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain in spite of, or because of his incompetence]], while overshadowed by the main plot, being emotionally and physically abused by his EvilUncle, who takes opportunities to change him into degrading forms, pretend to be accepting before he insults/punishes him, and verbally threatens him with [[ImpliedDeathThreat threats to kill him.]] Regardless of his villainy, it's pitiful to see this scrawny owl desperately trying to win the affection of an uncle that sees him as a tool at best or something abhorrent at worst.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A movie about a kid that gets transported into an AlternateTooniverse, becoming one of them in the process and needing to go back home? That ''does'' sound interesting. The movie doesn't focus on that at all, the kid being human is pretty much forgotten about in the plot until the climax, the focus is more on bringing a different character back.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A movie about a kid that gets transported into an AlternateTooniverse, becoming one of them in the process and needing to go back home? home. That ''does'' sound interesting. The movie doesn't focus on that at all, the kid being human is pretty much forgotten about in the plot until the climax, and the focus is more on bringing a different character back.



* ToughActToFollow: Compared to Creator/DonBluth's previous films, the films afterwards never became successful nor memorable as their predecessors. It also had to try to do this with Disney and Spielberg.
* WTHCastingAgency: Glen Campbell seems like an odd choice for Chanticleer as Campbell's music was hardly Music/ElvisPresley-esque. As it turns out though, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cce2vCYb6U when Glen was much younger, he actually worked as an]] ElvisImpersonator, so that may have had something to do with him being cast. It didn't do his career any favors in the end however.

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* ToughActToFollow: Compared to Creator/DonBluth's previous films, the films afterwards following this afterward never became successful nor memorable as their predecessors. It also had to try to do this with Disney and Spielberg.
* WTHCastingAgency: Glen Campbell seems like an odd choice for Chanticleer as Campbell's music was hardly Music/ElvisPresley-esque. As it turns out though, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cce2vCYb6U when Glen was much younger, he actually worked as an]] ElvisImpersonator, so that may have had something to do with him being cast. It didn't do his career any favors in the end end, however.
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* JerkassWoobie: Hunch, the Grand Duke's much-abused nephew, who in spite of his incompetence, tries everything to appease his EvilUncle, who at best, sees him as a slightly more competent minion due to being related to him or at worst, emotionally, mentally and physically abuses him with [[ImpliedDeathThreat threats of killing him]] or [[BalefulPolymorph or changing him into degrading forms]].

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* JerkassWoobie: Hunch, the Grand Duke's much-abused nephew, who in spite of his incompetence, tries everything to appease his EvilUncle, who at best, sees him as a slightly more competent minion due to being related to him or at worst, emotionally, mentally and physically abuses him with [[ImpliedDeathThreat threats of killing him]] or [[BalefulPolymorph [[ForcedTransformation or changing him into degrading forms]].

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** Due to Edmond's lisp, his line "Jeepers! I'm all furry!" sounds more like "I'm a furry!", something that has become something of a meme long after the film's release.

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** Due to Edmond's lisp, his line "Jeepers! I'm all furry!" sounds more like "I'm a furry!", something a misquote that has become something of a meme long after the film's release.


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* TheWoobie:
** Edmund. First he's turned into a kitten, then he nearly drowns, and is eventually [[spoiler:[[DisneyDeath almost strangled to death by the Grand Duke of Owls]]]]. Could even qualify as an IronWoobie.
** Let's not forget Chanticleer, who was laughed off the farm by his friends and family and abandoned his former life to find a new purpose in the city, where despite his incredible fame as a singer he is wracked with loneliness and depression. Then he finds out his employer is working against him and trying to keep him from reuniting with his friends, resulting in a harrowing journey to get back home where he is completely helpless to save it from the flooding. By the end, you ''will'' be crowing just as loudly as he does when he finds his true calling again.

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Main characters of works cannot be scrappies, as it then implies the entry is written from a detractor point of view. WAI is not Flame Bait and the examples aren't valid. Moving the NLID misuse to trivia under Star Derailing Role.


** Due to Edmond's lisp, his line "Jeepers! I'm all furry!" sounds more like "I'm a furry!", a fact that was lampshaded by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic in his review.

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** Due to Edmond's lisp, his line "Jeepers! I'm all furry!" sounds more like "I'm a furry!", a fact something that was lampshaded by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic in his review. has become something of a meme long after the film's release.



* NeverLiveItDown: The entire film was this for Glen Campbell, who saw his career decline sharply for the better part of TheNineties partly due to how far his singing here strayed from his usual style. Tellingly, Campbell largely stayed away from filmmaking from that point onward.



* TheScrappy: Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma impacts his character, some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.
%%** Snipes due to his annoying voice, abrasive personality, and the fact that for most of the film he's more of a hindrance than an asset.



* WhatAnIdiot:
** The Grand Duke of Owls sending Hutch to deal with Edmund and his friends. In all honesty, he probably hoped to just get him off his back due to his incompetence, but having already contracted Pinky to keep the group away from Chanticleer, sending Hutch after them as well actually only serves to completely screw things up when Pinky has already gotten a hold of them. Without Hutch's overzealous interference, Pinky might've stood a better chance of stopping Chanticleer from reaching his friends.
** The animals at the farm for not using their flashlight more sparingly in keeping the owls away. They could not have known when the Grand Duke and his flock would try to strike, but having their only means of defense on nonstop with almost no batteries to spare very nearly has them at the Duke's mercy before [[BigDamnHeroes Edmund and his friends finally return]].



* TheWoobie:
** Edmund. First he's turned into a kitten, then he nearly drowns, and is eventually [[spoiler:[[DisneyDeath almost strangled to death by the Grand Duke of Owls]]]]. Could even qualify as an IronWoobie.
** Let's not forget Chanticleer, who was laughed off the farm by his friends and family and abandoned his former life to find a new purpose in the city, where despite his incredible fame as a singer he is wracked with loneliness and depression. Then he finds out his employer is working against him and trying to keep him from reuniting with his friends, resulting in a harrowing journey to get back home where he is completely helpless to save it from the flooding. By the end, you ''will'' be crowing just as loudly as he does when he finds his true calling again.
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My mistake, meant to comment out Snipes, not Edmund


* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him far less favorably, as Snipes manages to be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].

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* %%* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him far less favorably, as Snipes manages to be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].



** Snipes due to his annoying voice, abrasive personality, and the fact that for most of the film he's more of a hindrance than an asset.

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** %%** Snipes due to his annoying voice, abrasive personality, and the fact that for most of the film he's more of a hindrance than an asset.
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"these two actors worked together again later"


** In the Norwegian dub, the Grand Duke and Hunch are voiced by Nils Ole Oftebro and Anders Hatlo. The two would go on to voice Jafar and Iago in the Norwegian dub of ''WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}'', who have a similar dynamic.
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%%* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him far less favorably, as Snipes manages to be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].

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%%* * BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him far less favorably, as Snipes manages to be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].



%%* TheScrappy: Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma impacts his character, some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.

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%%* * TheScrappy: Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma impacts his character, some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him far less favorably, as Snipes manages to be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: This movie is best known for Goldie Pheasant and her...assets.

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* %%* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him far less favorably, as Snipes manages to be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: This movie is best known for Goldie Pheasant and her... assets.



* TheScrappy: Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma impacts his character, some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.

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* %%* TheScrappy: Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma impacts his character, some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.
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** Snipes due to his annoying voice, abrasive personality, and the fact that for most of the film he's more of a hindrance than an asset.
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* EvilIsCool: The Grand Duke of Owls, as much of a NightmareRetardant he may be due to ExecutiveMeddling, when he's actually allowed to threatening, he's a genuinely intimidating, psychotic [[FatBastard imposing figure]] with RealityWarper powers and the glorious vocal performance of Creator/ChristopherPlummer. Some actually [[RootingForTheEmpire wanted him to win in the climax]].

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* EvilIsCool: The Grand Duke of Owls, as much of a NightmareRetardant he may be due to ExecutiveMeddling, when he's actually allowed to be threatening, he's a genuinely intimidating, psychotic [[FatBastard imposing figure]] with RealityWarper powers and the glorious vocal performance of Creator/ChristopherPlummer. Some actually [[RootingForTheEmpire wanted him to win in the climax]].
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** In the Japanese dub, Goldie was voiced by the late Creator/YukoMizutani, who years later will voice another MissFanservice girl [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration while dressed as a playboy bunny]].

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** In the Japanese dub, Goldie was voiced by the late Creator/YukoMizutani, who years later will voice another MissFanservice MsFanservice girl [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration while dressed as a playboy bunny]].

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation : Some dialogue suggests that the Grand Duke is actually secretly envious of Chanticleer and wants to undermine him out of jealous spite. Noticeably, his first and last words [[spoiler: before being shrunken down and begging for mercy from Hunch]] was both an irritation to being compared to Chanticleer. His actions in driving Chanticleer away from the farm beyond removing a threat to his hunting and dislike of the rooster's singing, also had implications of degrading him to make himself feel better- a symptom of schadenfreude, something that [[GreenEyedMonster especially envious people tend to feel when a more successful person is brought down]] and undergoes a VillainousBreakdown when people still cheer for him, regardless of this humiliation. He has a habit of turning victims into smaller, degrading forms, hunt down the smaller animals or bolstering his size to make him more intimidating, [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex Something that implies an immense inferiority complex.]]

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Some dialogue suggests that the Grand Duke is actually secretly envious of Chanticleer and wants to undermine him out of jealous spite. Noticeably, his first and last words [[spoiler: before being shrunken down and begging for mercy from Hunch]] was both an irritation to being compared to Chanticleer. His actions in driving Chanticleer away from the farm beyond removing a threat to his hunting and dislike of the rooster's singing, also had implications of degrading him to make himself feel better- a symptom of schadenfreude, something that [[GreenEyedMonster especially envious people tend to feel when a more successful person is brought down]] and undergoes a VillainousBreakdown when people still cheer for him, regardless of this humiliation. He has a habit of turning victims into smaller, degrading forms, hunt down the smaller animals or bolstering his size to make him more intimidating, [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex Something that implies an immense inferiority complex.]]



* AssPull: Where exactly was Peepers able to find and commandeer Pinky's helicopter after her close call in Pinky's trailer?

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Where exactly was Peepers able to find and commandeer Pinky's helicopter after her close call in Pinky's trailer?



* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: In the Swedish dub there are the songs "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXF0xtEj4cQ Sun on Me]]" and "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzYxihYJo-I Rock-A-Doodle]]". Even the music playing over the end credits manages to somehow be both bittersweet and charming at the same time.
** The Norwegian dub has all of Chanticleer's songs performed by the Vazelina Bilopphøggers; Viggo Sandvig belts it out while the others perform gorgeous backup melodies.



* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him as TheScrappy, as Snipes manages to [[TheLoad be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be a major hindrance in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy]]. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place]] [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].

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** In the Swedish dub there are the songs "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXF0xtEj4cQ Sun on Me]]" and "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzYxihYJo-I Rock-A-Doodle]]". Even the music playing over the end credits manages to somehow be both bittersweet and charming at the same time.
** The Norwegian dub has all of Chanticleer's songs performed by the Vazelina Bilopphøggers; Viggo Sandvig belts it out while the others perform gorgeous backup melodies.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him as TheScrappy, far less favorably, as Snipes manages to [[TheLoad be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be [[TheLoad a major hindrance hindrance]] in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy]]. idiocy. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place]] place [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].



* NeverLiveItDown:
** Understandably, its bewildering plot and often incoherent narrative led to it being a box office bust and, in turn, the end of Don Bluth's studio. Edmund's voice, in particular, is a frequent target for mockery, even among legitimate fans of the film.
** The entire film was this for Glen Campbell, who saw his career decline sharply for the better part of TheNineties partly due to how far his singing here strayed from his usual style. Tellingly, Campbell largely stayed away from filmmaking from that point onward.

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* NeverLiveItDown:
** Understandably, its bewildering plot and often incoherent narrative led to it being a box office bust and, in turn, the end of Don Bluth's studio. Edmund's voice, in particular, is a frequent target for mockery, even among legitimate fans of the film.
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NeverLiveItDown: The entire film was this for Glen Campbell, who saw his career decline sharply for the better part of TheNineties partly due to how far his singing here strayed from his usual style. Tellingly, Campbell largely stayed away from filmmaking from that point onward.

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: After a long string of financial successes and runaway hits through the eighties, this film proved to be the start of one for Creator/DonBluth, not helped by its baffling premise or its part in killing the studio of which he was the head at the time.



* DorkAge: After a long string of financial successes and runaway hits through the eighties, this film proved to be the start of one for Creator/DonBluth, not helped by its baffling premise or its part in killing the studio of which he was the head at the time.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The gag where Patou accidentally bashes Chanticleer on the head might be awkward for some people now, given how Glen Campbell developed and later died from Alzheimer's Disease.



* HarsherInHindsight: The film's failure hurts a whole lot more when you realize that [[DuelingMovies one of the other, more successful movies it was up against]] was ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTailFievelGoesWest'', the sequel to Don Bluth's [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail own film]], one he was given the opportunity to work on, no less!

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* HarsherInHindsight: The film's failure hurts a whole lot more when you realize that [[DuelingMovies one of gag where Patou accidentally bashes Chanticleer on the other, more successful movies it was up against]] was ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTailFievelGoesWest'', the sequel to Don Bluth's [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail own film]], one he was head might be awkward for some people now, given the opportunity to work on, no less!how Glen Campbell developed and later died from Alzheimer's Disease.
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** Due to Edmond's lisp, his line "Jeepers! I'm all furry!" sounds more like "I'm a furry!", a fact that was lampshaded by WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic in his review.

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* TheScrappy:
** Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot impacts his character]], some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.

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* TheScrappy:
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TheScrappy: Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot impacts his character]], character, some wonder why they even bothered with the live-action scenes.



* WTHCastingAgency: Glen Campbell seems like an odd choice for Chanticleer as Campbell's music was hardly Elvis-esque. As it turns out though, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cce2vCYb6U when Glen was much younger, he actually worked as an Elvis impersonator]], so that may have had something to do with him being cast. It didn't do his career any favors in the end however.
%%** Creator/ChristopherPlummer as The Duke Of Owls. (Zero Context Example. It doesn't explain why he was a questionable casting choice.)

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* WTHCastingAgency: Glen Campbell seems like an odd choice for Chanticleer as Campbell's music was hardly Elvis-esque.Music/ElvisPresley-esque. As it turns out though, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cce2vCYb6U when Glen was much younger, he actually worked as an Elvis impersonator]], an]] ElvisImpersonator, so that may have had something to do with him being cast. It didn't do his career any favors in the end however.
%%** Creator/ChristopherPlummer as The Duke Of Owls. (Zero Context Example. It doesn't explain why he was a questionable casting choice.)
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** The Norwegian version featuring the popular band Music/VazelinaBilopphoggers and the Swedish version having The Boppers and The Jordanaires certainly helps; the music went from awkward and dorky to SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic thanks to Viggo Sandvik's and Jerry Williams brassy vocals.

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** The Norwegian version featuring the popular band Music/VazelinaBilopphoggers and the Swedish version having The Boppers and The Jordanaires certainly helps; the music went from awkward and dorky to SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic thanks to Viggo Sandvik's and Jerry Williams brassy vocals.vocals.
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Goldie is considered to be an Ensemble Darkhorse.


* FetishRetardant: Goldie was meant to be attractive-looking to compete with [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit Jessica Rabbit]]. However, the combination of a beak and [[NonMammalMammaries breasts]] just looks squicky to many viewers.
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* GeniusBonus: The DeletedScene of the Grand Duke trying to cook a skunk in a pie makes sense when you realize that owls are one of the few predators of skunks due to lacking a sense of smell, and thus are unaffected by the skunk's notorious scent glands.
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** Understandably, its bewildering plot and often incoherent narrative led to it being a box office bust and in turn the end of Don Bluth's studio. Edmund's voice in particular is a frequent target for mockery even among legitimate fans of the film.
** The entire film was this for Glen Campbell, who saw his career decline sharply for the better part of the Nineties in part due to how far his singing here strayed from his usual style. Tellingly, Campbell largely stayed away from filmmaking from that point onward.

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** Understandably, its bewildering plot and often incoherent narrative led to it being a box office bust and and, in turn turn, the end of Don Bluth's studio. Edmund's voice voice, in particular particular, is a frequent target for mockery mockery, even among legitimate fans of the film.
** The entire film was this for Glen Campbell, who saw his career decline sharply for the better part of the Nineties in part TheNineties partly due to how far his singing here strayed from his usual style. Tellingly, Campbell largely stayed away from filmmaking from that point onward.



** Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot impacts his character]], some wonder why they even bothered with the Live-Action scenes.
* SoBadItsGood: The storyline and everything about it is silly and ridiculous, but it still has its share of fans who enjoy it for how silly and ridiculous it is.

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** Edmund, probably due to his voice and ElmuhFuddSyndwome, at least in the original English version. Made even worse by the fact he's the lead character, even though he feels out-of-place in the story, being a kid from ''our world'', transformed into a kitten and trapped in a cartoony world. Considering how little the potential TransformationTrauma [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot impacts his character]], some wonder why they even bothered with the Live-Action live-action scenes.
* SoBadItsGood: The storyline and everything about it is silly and utterly ridiculous, but it still has its share of fans who enjoy it for how silly and ridiculous it is.



** The film has many noticeable animation errors, and overall feels like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of the Eighties such as [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH The Secret of NIMH]], [[WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime The Land Before Time]], [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail An American Tail]], and [[WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven All Dogs Go To Heaven]].

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** The film has many noticeable animation errors, and overall feels like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of the Eighties such as [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH The Secret of NIMH]], [[WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime The Land Before Time]], [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail An American Tail]], TheEighties (''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', and [[WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven All Dogs Go To Heaven]].''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'').
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** The film has many noticeable animation errors, and overall feels like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of the Eighties such as [[WesternAnimation/SecretOfNimh Secret of Nimh]], [[WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime The Land Before Time]], [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail An American Tail]], and [[WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven All Dogs Go To Heaven]].

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** The film has many noticeable animation errors, and overall feels like a downgrade from the Bluth movies of the Eighties such as [[WesternAnimation/SecretOfNimh [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH The Secret of Nimh]], NIMH]], [[WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime The Land Before Time]], [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail An American Tail]], and [[WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven All Dogs Go To Heaven]].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him as TheScrappy, as Snipes manages to [[TheLoad be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be a major hindrance in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy]]. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place]] [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him as TheScrappy, as Snipes manages to [[TheLoad be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be a major hindrance in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy]]. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place]] [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]].
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* MemeticMutation: "Jeepers...I'm a [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom furry]]!"[[note]]Popularized by both WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic and WebVideo/YourMovieSucksDotOrg. [[{{Mondegreen}} He's actually saying]] "I'm ''all'' furry!", but it's much funnier to imagine otherwise.[[/note]]

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* MemeticMutation: "Jeepers...I'm a [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom furry]]!"[[note]]Popularized by both WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic and WebVideo/YourMovieSucksDotOrg. [[{{Mondegreen}} He's actually saying]] saying "I'm ''all'' furry!", but it's much funnier to imagine otherwise.[[/note]]
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Tried my best to clean up some of the complaining on this page, though it is possible I missed something.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him as TheScrappy, as Snipes manages to [[TheLoad be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be a major hindrance in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy]]. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place]] [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]]. On top of this, [[TooDumbToLive he almost manages to kill Patoo, Edmund and Peepers through his claustrophobia by drilling holes in their enclosed chest]]- '''while it was submerged underwater and leading to them almost drowning from the water leaking into the chest and needing to restrain him before he could do any more damage and get to retrieve Chanticleer who can fix the entire mess'''.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: "''Rock-a-Doodle''? You mean that weird cartoon movie that has the [[NonMammalMammaries pheasant with tits]]?"

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: To some people, Snipes is seen by some people as an EnsembleDarkhorse character (having Creator/EddieDeezen helps) due to his hilarious quotes and being a general funny guy. However, there are fans who see him as TheScrappy, as Snipes manages to [[TheLoad be more troublesome than either Edmund and Peepers combined due to how he directly manages to be a major hindrance in both playing a large part in the plot happening in the first place and and managing to get closer to killing the heroes through his sheer idiocy]]. Not only is he [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero constantly sexist to Peepers on the account of being a woman]], he also is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero one of the farm animals responsible for Chanticleer leaving in the first place]] [[KickTheDog by twisting the knife further by giving a sarcastic cock a doodle doo that sends Chanticleer into a deeper state of depression]]. On top of this, [[TooDumbToLive he almost manages to kill Patoo, Edmund and Peepers through his claustrophobia by drilling holes in their enclosed chest]]- '''while it was submerged underwater and leading to them almost drowning from the water leaking into the chest and needing to restrain him before he could do any more damage and get to retrieve Chanticleer who can fix the entire mess'''.
depression]].
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: "''Rock-a-Doodle''? You mean that weird cartoon This movie that has the [[NonMammalMammaries pheasant with tits]]?"is best known for Goldie Pheasant and her...assets.



* CultClassic: Despite its flaws, it still has a small nostalgic fan following for being a decent children's film that tries to tell an interesting story. (Emphasis on ''tries''.)

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* CultClassic: Despite its flaws, it still has a small nostalgic fan following for being a decent children's film that tries to tell an interesting story. (Emphasis on ''tries''.)



* ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs: It starts off relatively normal with an Elvis impersonator rooster whose crow apparently brings up the sun on a frame, but is forced to leave in shame when this proved to be not the case in one instance and it's revealed to be a [[FramingDevice an animated interpretation of a story as a metaphor for the situation]] told by a mother to her son in live action while they deal with the storm happening outside. Then, it turns out that not only the [[BigBad Grand Duke of Owls]] is real and by extension the story, but also has magic breath that turns the boy into an animated kitten while somehow transporting him [[AlternateTooniverse into the realm of the story]], where this kitten now has to work with the farm animals to save the rooster who now has taken his Elvis motif more literally- being a jaded rock singer working with a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive sleazy music executive]] [[CunningLikeAFox that is literally a plump fox]] in the city and the boy briefly has a HeroicBSOD that he enters into his own brain and sees images of the people that frighten him. This is just one of the several instances of insanity that the plot brings. WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic compared to a bedtime story read by Creator/AndyWarhol.

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* ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs: It starts off relatively normal with an Elvis impersonator rooster whose crow apparently brings up the sun on a frame, but is forced to leave in shame when this proved to be not the case in one instance and it's revealed to be a [[FramingDevice an animated interpretation of a story as a metaphor for the situation]] told by a mother to her son in live action while they deal with the storm happening outside. Then, it turns out that not only the [[BigBad Grand Duke of Owls]] is real and by extension the story, but also has magic breath that turns the boy into an animated kitten while somehow transporting him [[AlternateTooniverse into the realm of the story]], where this kitten now has to work with the farm animals to save the rooster who now has taken his Elvis motif more literally- being a jaded rock singer working with a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive sleazy music executive]] [[CunningLikeAFox that is literally a plump fox]] in the city and the boy briefly has a HeroicBSOD that he enters into his own brain and sees images of the people that frighten him. This is just one of the several instances of insanity that the plot brings. WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic compared to a bedtime story read by Creator/AndyWarhol.



** The creative and lively Norwegian and Swedish dubs tend to improve character likeability, especially in the case of Edmund, a fair deal. The movie's still what it is though.

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** The creative and lively Norwegian and Swedish dubs tend to improve character likeability, especially in the case of Edmund, a fair deal. The movie's still what it is though.
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She doesn't hate him at all, even after he tries to eat her.


** Peepers, though much lesser than Edmund, given that only people who watched the movie really noticed her, many hate her for being a [[InsufferableGenius little know-it-all]], causing [[TheLoad more trouble than she's worth]] and hating Edmund for all the wrong reasons. She doesn't hate him for being annoying, useless or talking too much, she hates him [[FantasticRacism for being a cat]], even [[BalefulPolymorph though he isn't]]. And even if he was, he's just a harmless kitten who hasn't done anything to hurt her.

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