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** The Black & White mix of this ups it wayyyyyy past 11
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* WTHCastingAgency: One of the decisions that, for better or worse, really set ''Release'' apart from the rest of their catalogue was the inclusion of [[Music/TheSmiths Johnny Marr]] as a session musician for most of the tracks.

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* WTHCastingAgency: One of the decisions that, for better or worse, really set ''Release'' apart from the rest of their catalogue was the inclusion of [[Music/TheSmiths Johnny Marr]] Music/JohnnyMarr (of Music/TheSmiths) as a session musician for most of the tracks.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then, getting a reputation as a "gay band" when mainstream American culture was more homophobic. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations like San Francisco or New York City. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].

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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then, getting a reputation as a [[QueerShowGhetto "gay band" band"]] when mainstream American culture was more homophobic. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations like San Francisco or New York City. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].
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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations like San Francisco or New York City. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].

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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then.then, getting a reputation as a "gay band" when mainstream American culture was more homophobic. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations like San Francisco or New York City. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].
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* FriendlyFandoms: With Music/NewOrder, due to their similar style as well as both bands working with producer Stephen Hague. Neil Tennant has professed a love of Music/JoyDivision and New Order in interviews, as well as contributing vocals to Music/{{Electronic}}'s "Getting Away with It" . The bands were even set to tour together before being interrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

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* FriendlyFandoms: With Music/NewOrder, due to their similar style as well as both bands working with producer Stephen Hague. Neil Tennant has professed a love of Music/JoyDivision and New Order in interviews, as well as contributing vocals to Music/{{Electronic}}'s "Getting Away with It" . The bands were even set to tour together before being interrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Also with Music/{{Erasure}} for both also working with Hague and being SynthPop duos with openly gay frontmen.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].

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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations.populations like San Francisco or New York City. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].
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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].

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* AmericansHateTingle: While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. Their American support tends to be limited to urban areas with large LGBTQ+ populations. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].
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* SignatureSong: "West End Girls" and "Go West" for casual audiences; "Being Boring" for diehard fans.
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* FriendlyFandoms: With Music/NewOrder, due to their similar style as well as both bands working with producer Stephen Hague. Neil Tennant has professed a love of Music/JoyDivision and New Order in interviews, as well as contributing vocals to Electronic's "Getting Away with It" . The bands were even set to tour together before being interrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

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* FriendlyFandoms: With Music/NewOrder, due to their similar style as well as both bands working with producer Stephen Hague. Neil Tennant has professed a love of Music/JoyDivision and New Order in interviews, as well as contributing vocals to Electronic's Music/{{Electronic}}'s "Getting Away with It" . The bands were even set to tour together before being interrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic.
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* FriendlyFandoms: With Music/NewOrder, due to their similar style as well as both bands working with producer Stephen Hague. Neil Tennant has professed a love of Music/JoyDivision and New Order in interviews, as well as contributing vocals to Electronic's "Getting Away with It" . The bands were even set to tour together before being interrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

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** The version of "In private" they performed with Elton John is also quite hoyay as the song had been originally written to be performed by a woman (namely, Dusty Springfield).

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** The version of "In private" Private" they performed with Elton John Music/EltonJohn is also quite hoyay as the song had been originally written to be performed by a woman (namely, Dusty Springfield).Music/DustySpringfield).



** The music video for "Yesterday I Was Mad" is SurrealHorror at it's finest. There's too much strange and creepy imagery to list at once but special mention has to go to the [[DerangedAnimation creepy, deformed CGI heads of Chris and Neil]] which go rocketing straight into the UncannyValley.

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** The music video for "Yesterday I Was Mad" is SurrealHorror at it's its finest. There's too much strange and creepy imagery to list at once but special mention has to go to the [[DerangedAnimation creepy, deformed CGI heads of Chris and Neil]] which go rocketing straight into the UncannyValley.



* TearJerker: "Your Funny Uncle", "Being Boring" (and a large chunk of ''Behaviour''), "Home and Dry".

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"Your Funny Uncle", "Being Boring" (and a large chunk of ''Behaviour''), "Home and Dry".



*** It gets even more melancholy and bleak when you read that Neil Tennant agreed to recording it as a contrast with the Village People's 1978 original, showing how the gay utopia described in the original has been ravaged by AIDS and homophobia in the 15 years since, as well as nodding to the fall of communism.

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*** It gets even more melancholy and bleak when you read that Neil Tennant agreed to recording it as a contrast with the Village People's Music/VillagePeople's 1978 original, showing how the gay utopia described in the original has been ravaged by AIDS and homophobia in the 15 years since, as well as nodding to the fall of communism.



*** Heck the real meaning of the lyrics is arguably even ''more'' of a tearjerker.

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*** Heck Heck, the real meaning of the lyrics is arguably even ''more'' of a tearjerker.
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** "It Couldn't Happen Here", particularily if you know the meaning behind the title: Neil's friend said that the AIDS epidemic that was going on in America at the time wouldn't happen in Europe also. That same friend died of AIDS just a few years later.
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* SampledUp: "In the Night", the b-side to "Opportunities", is noted for being reworked by the Music/BloodhoundGang as the basis for their hit "The Bad Touch".
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** In the liner notes for ''Alternative,'' Neil Tennant says of his guitar solo on "Decadence" "I guess Pet Shop Boys are not allowed to rock." Jon Savage concurs. Seven years later came Pet Shop Boys' NewSoundAlbum ''Release,'' which focused for the most part on pop-rock. While not a commercial failure, it is their least successful album to date, and critics are still split on its quality.

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** In the liner notes for ''Alternative,'' Neil Tennant says of his guitar solo on "Decadence" "Decadence": "I guess Pet Shop Boys are not allowed to rock." Jon Savage concurs. Seven years later came Pet Shop Boys' NewSoundAlbum ''Release,'' which focused for the most part on pop-rock. pop-rock GenreAdultery ''Release''. While not a commercial an outright failure, it is their least successful album to date, and critics date--critics are still split on its quality.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted. While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to this level save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].

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* AmericansHateTingle: Subverted. While they started off just as popular in the United States as in the United Kingdom and much of the rest of the world, their American success had declined to this level a much lower level, save for some successes on the dance charts by the early 1990s, thanks in part to how misunderstood their lyrics and their work in general had become by then. One popular website devoted to the Boys even cites [[http://www.geowayne.com/newDesign/lists/suicide.htm 10 ways the Boys all but killed their American career]].
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** The dystopian lyrics and ominous music of "Integral" can give you chills.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The main criticisms of the ''Agenda'' EP were about it's relative lack of subtlety and nuance in comparison to most of the more political albums and songs by the boys, such as "King's Cross" and "A Red Letter Day".

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The main criticisms of the ''Agenda'' EP were about it's its relative lack of subtlety and nuance in comparison to most of the more political albums and songs by the boys, such as "King's Cross" and "A Red Letter Day".
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** The music video for "Yesterday I Was Mad" is SurrealHorror at it's finest. There's too much strange and creepy imagery to list at once but special mention has to go to the [[DerangedAnimation creepy, deformed CGI heads of Chris and Neil]] which go rocketing straight into the UncannyValley.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The main criticisms of the ''Agenda'' EP were about it's relative lack of subtlety and nuance in comparison to most of the more political albums and songs by the boys, such as "King's Cross" and "A Red Letter Day".


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** "The Survivors" can make anyone who's struggled with mental illness absolutely ''sob'' due to how close to home the lyrics hit, even though the song technically isn't about mental illness and instead is about AIDS.
*** Heck the real meaning of the lyrics is arguably even ''more'' of a tearjerker.
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is this really Harsher In Hindsight if the band wrote two songs about two of the most famous cities in the world and then years later something happens in them with no real connection to the song?


** They released a homage song about New York City in 1999, called (quite obviously) "New York City boy". A couple of years later, the city suffered the September, 11th terrorist attacks. Then, they released a song about London in 2002, called (even more obviously) "London". A couple of years later, the city suffered the Al-Qaeda terrorist attacks...
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** The original video for "Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money)" starts off pretty standard, with Chris walking around an empty parking garage and Neil 'in character' as the narrator of the song standing in a hole in front of a car with its headlights on. However as Neil gets to the chorus some fog covers the screen and as it fades away it reveals Neil looks [[UncannyValley ...off]], with sickly greenish skin and glasses tinted so you can't see his eyes. Not helping matters is the stilted, awkward way he lip syncs, his constant twitching or the fact that ''his neck inflates like a frog'' every so often. Neil switches between looking normal and looking like this throughout the video until the very end, when he ''melts''. It's downright unsettling from a band not normally known for being creepy.
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* WTHCastingAgency: One of the decisions that, for better or worse, really set ''Release'' apart from the rest of their catalogue was the inclusion of [[Music/TheSmiths Johnny Marr]] as a session musician for most of the tracks.
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** "A Red Letter Day"
** Their cover of "Losing My Mind". ''Hoo boy''.
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* NightmareFuel: The "Full Horror" remix of "Suburbia" is this, SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic and TearJerker rolled into one.
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** In a weird way their cover of "Go West" is this, despite being upbeat and energetic, it also sounds very melancholy.
*** It gets even more melancholy and bleak when you read that Neil Tennant agreed to recording it as a contrast with the Village People's 1978 original, showing how the gay utopia described in the original has been ravaged by AIDS and homophobia in the 15 years since, as well as nodding to the fall of communism.
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** "King's Cross". Dear ''god'' is this song ever a tearjerker. Its association with the 1987 King's Cross fire doesn't help.

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** "King's Cross". Dear ''god'' is this song ever a tearjerker. Its It just sounds so broken down and melancholy, and its later association with the 1987 King's Cross fire doesn't help.
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** "King's Cross". Dear ''god'' is this song ever a tearjerker. Its association with the 1987 King's Cross fire doesn't help.
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** "The Sound Of The Atom Splitting", and ''It Couldn't Happen Here'' (the movie).

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** "The "[[SanitySlippageSong The Sound Of The Atom Splitting", Splitting]]", and ''It Couldn't Happen Here'' (the movie).
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** The video for Kings Cross (the ''It Couldn't Happen Here'' clip [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRfIpuZIXE]], not the Darek Jarman projection) shows a man on fire, whereas the song itself talks about the (presumably figurative) "dead and wounded on either side" all around Kings Cross station. Two months later, there is a fire that kills 31 at the Kings Cross tube station.

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** The video for Kings Cross (the ''It Couldn't Happen Here'' clip [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRfIpuZIXE]], not the Darek Jarman projection) shows a man on fire, whereas the song itself talks about the (presumably figurative) "dead and wounded on either side" all around Kings Cross station. Two months later, there is a fire that kills 31 at the Kings Cross tube station.



* HilariousInHindsight: The 2003 [=DVD=] release of ''[=PopArt=]'' has commentary for each music video. During the commentary for "Liberation", this exchange occurs:

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* HilariousInHindsight: The 2003 [=DVD=] release of ''[=PopArt=]'' has commentary for each music video. During the commentary for "Liberation", "[[SurrealMusicVideo Liberation]]", this exchange occurs:
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* TearJerker: "Your Funny Uncle", "Being Boring" (and a large chunk of ''Behaviour''), "Home and Dry".

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