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** Yukiko's ascended persona, Amaterasu, is pretty cool-looking, except for the fact that it ''[[TheBlank has no face]].''
** Rise's radar-face persona. It looks like somebody took her face off and installed wires.
** Mitsuo Kubo's horrible dead eyes qualify as well.
** Namatame's usual expression, staring like that can be a little creepy. [[spoiler: Although his backstory at least makes it justified.]]
** Yukiko's ascended persona, Amaterasu, is pretty cool-looking, except for the fact that it ''[[TheBlank has no face]].''
** Rise's radar-face persona. It looks like somebody took her face off and installed wires.
** Mitsuo Kubo's horrible dead eyes qualify as well.
** Namatame's usual expression, staring like that can be a little creepy. [[spoiler: Although his backstory at least makes it justified.]]
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*** One thing about Naoto - if we assume she's been living her life until the events of the game as a pre-testosterone FTM, then her voice actually works. One major problem pre-T transmen have is that their voices have a tendency to sound either like a prepubescent boy or a girl trying hard and failing to drop her voice.
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** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality. Ayane's is almost as bad due to being the TokenLoli]].
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* CrazyAwesome: The main character. Igor says that it's his thoughts that shaped the Velvet Room into the form it has in this game, and he made it into a ''space limo.''
** Kanji's first weapon is a CHAIR. Enough said.
*** The next strongest weapon? A fucking DESK.
** Kanji's first weapon is a CHAIR. Enough said.
*** The next strongest weapon? A fucking DESK.
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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyAwesome:
** The main character. Igor says that it's his thoughts that shaped the Velvet Room into the form it has in this game, and he made it into a ''space limo.''
** Kanji's first weapon is aCHAIR. Enough said.
***''chair''. The next strongest weapon? A fucking DESK.''desk''.
** The main character. Igor says that it's his thoughts that shaped the Velvet Room into the form it has in this game, and he made it into a ''space limo.''
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* EpilepticTrees: This particular game is notable for spawning even ''more'' than games of [[ShinMegamiTensei its franchise]] usually do, thanks in no small part to leaving certain side-mysteries from the main plot tantalizingly half-answered or unanswered at all (in order to leave plot hooks for [[CashCowFranchise the inevitable sequel]], in all likelihood). [[spoiler: Naoto being a descendant of [[RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy Raidou Kuzunoha]] and/or the sister of {{Persona3}}'s Protagonist (and the two are not mutually exclusive)]], [[spoiler: the exact nature of Teddie, as he's ''clearly'' not ''just'' a joe shmoe Shadow who wants to be nice to humans]] and [[spoiler: the nature of the TV World and how it relates to the Dark Hour and Abyss of Time from ''Persona 3'']] are especially popular targets for tree-planting.
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* EpilepticTrees: EpilepticTrees:
** This particular game is notable for spawning even ''more'' than games of [[ShinMegamiTensei its franchise]] usually do, thanks in no small part to leaving certain side-mysteries from the main plot tantalizingly half-answered or unanswered at all (in order to leave plot hooks for [[CashCowFranchise the inevitable sequel]], in all likelihood). [[spoiler: Naoto being a descendant of [[RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy Raidou Kuzunoha]] and/or the sister of {{Persona3}}'s Protagonist (and the two are not mutually exclusive)]], [[spoiler: the exact nature of Teddie, as he's ''clearly'' not ''just'' a joe shmoe Shadow who wants to be nice to humans]] and [[spoiler: the nature of the TV World and how it relates to the Dark Hour and Abyss of Time from ''Persona 3'']] are especially popular targets for tree-planting.
** This particular game is notable for spawning even ''more'' than games of [[ShinMegamiTensei its franchise]] usually do, thanks in no small part to leaving certain side-mysteries from the main plot tantalizingly half-answered or unanswered at all (in order to leave plot hooks for [[CashCowFranchise the inevitable sequel]], in all likelihood). [[spoiler: Naoto being a descendant of [[RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy Raidou Kuzunoha]] and/or the sister of {{Persona3}}'s Protagonist (and the two are not mutually exclusive)]], [[spoiler: the exact nature of Teddie, as he's ''clearly'' not ''just'' a joe shmoe Shadow who wants to be nice to humans]] and [[spoiler: the nature of the TV World and how it relates to the Dark Hour and Abyss of Time from ''Persona 3'']] are especially popular targets for tree-planting.
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* MemeticMutation: [[AccidentalInnuendo Kou looooooooves them balls.]]
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** [[AccidentalInnuendo Kou looooooooves them balls.]]
** [[AccidentalInnuendo Kou looooooooves them balls.]]
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* {{Narm}}:
** You quickly lose count of how many moments the exaggerated gestures ruin. For example Chie's gesture for "crying" looks as though she is attempting to rub something off her face.
** In others, they can also make a already funny moment [[NarmCharm even better]], like when [[spoiler:Yosuke started throwing his arms about after trying [[LethalChef Yukiko´s and Chie´s]] curry]].
** [[spoiler: Two of the faces Adachi makes after the reveal. His SlasherSmile make him look he's more happily drunk than an AxCrazy killer while his angry face makes him look like a retarded kid who just got his favorite toy stolen.]]
*** Tanaka from the shopping channel reverses this: he looks utterly apathetic about his job yet his dialogue makes him sound thrilled to be there.
** An example of a Narm ''seriously'' ruining a tense and otherwise dramatic moment? [[spoiler: Visit Nanako in he hospital. Poor kid can barely breath and the game cheerful informs that you've become closer to your friends.]]
** "I AM GOING BEAR-ZERK!"
** You quickly lose count of how many moments the exaggerated gestures ruin. For example Chie's gesture for "crying" looks as though she is attempting to rub something off her face.
** In others, they can also make a already funny moment [[NarmCharm even better]], like when [[spoiler:Yosuke started throwing his arms about after trying [[LethalChef Yukiko´s and Chie´s]] curry]].
** [[spoiler: Two of the faces Adachi makes after the reveal. His SlasherSmile make him look he's more happily drunk than an AxCrazy killer while his angry face makes him look like a retarded kid who just got his favorite toy stolen.]]
*** Tanaka from the shopping channel reverses this: he looks utterly apathetic about his job yet his dialogue makes him sound thrilled to be there.
** An example of a Narm ''seriously'' ruining a tense and otherwise dramatic moment? [[spoiler: Visit Nanako in he hospital. Poor kid can barely breath and the game cheerful informs that you've become closer to your friends.]]
** "I AM GOING BEAR-ZERK!"
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** [[spoiler:Nanako's kidnapping, and her subsequent dungeon.]]
** [[spoiler: Not to mention her apparent death.]]
*** [[spoiler: And the utter silence when you come home after that, without Nanako's cheerful "Welcome Home, Big Bro! ^_^" to greet you]]
** [[spoiler: Not to mention her apparent death.]]
*** [[spoiler: And the utter silence when you come home after that, without Nanako's cheerful "Welcome Home, Big Bro! ^_^" to greet you]]
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** [[spoiler:Nanako's kidnapping, and her subsequent dungeon.]]
** [[spoiler: Not to mention her apparent death.]]
*** [[spoiler:death. And the utter silence when you come home after that, without Nanako's cheerful "Welcome Home, Big Bro! ^_^" to greet you]]
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** I know it may be hard to imagine, but This Troper felt really bad for Mitsuo. While many fans despise him for the things he did, one must stop and consider what kind of life he must have lived that would drive him to [[spoiler: seek attention through murder]]. When you fight his shadow, one of its lines is "I need proof that I exist...". This makes it very plausible that [[spoiler: Mitsuo was so ostracized by society that he thought the only way to get anyone to care about him was by becoming a murderer]]. Not only that, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the person he killed may have been abusing him]]. Your mileage will definitely vary on this one, but This Troper finds it hard not to feel at least a little sorry for him.
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** I know it may be hard to imagine, but This Troper felt really bad for Mitsuo. While many fans despise him for the things he did, one must stop and consider what kind of life he must have lived that would drive him to [[spoiler: seek attention through murder]]. Not only that, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the person he killed may have been abusing him]]. When you fight his shadow, one of its lines is "I need proof that I exist...". This makes it very plausible that [[spoiler: Mitsuo was so ostracized by society that he thought the only way to get anyone to care about him was by becoming a murderer]]. Your mileage will definitely vary on this one, but This Troper finds it hard not to feel at least a little sorry for him.
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** I know it may be hard to imagine, but This Troper felt really bad for Mitsuo. While many fans despise him for the things he did, one must stop and consider what kind of life he must have lived that would drive him to [[spoiler: seek attention through murder]]. Not only that, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the person he killed may have been abusing him]]. When you fight his shadow, one of its lines is "I need proof that I exist...". This makes it very plausible that [[spoiler: Mitsuo was so ostracized by society that he thought the only way to get anyone to care about him was by becoming a murderer]]. Not only that, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the person he killed may have been abusing him]]. Your mileage will definitely vary on this one, but This Troper finds it hard not to feel at least a little sorry for him.
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** Hisano's backstory, combined with a dose of AdultFear. So, your husband has [[strike:[[NotUsingTheZWord Alzheimer's]]]] a disease, you speak to him, and the response is "Who are you?"
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** Hisano's backstory, combined with a dose of AdultFear. So, your husband has [[strike:[[NotUsingTheZWord Alzheimer's]]]] a disease, you speak to him, and the response is [[LaserGuidedAmnesia "Who are you?"you?"]]
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** Hisano's backstory, combined with a dose of AdultFear. So, your husband has [[strike:[[NotUsingTheZWord Alzheimer's]]]] a disease, you speak to him, and the response is "Who are you?"
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** I know it may be hard to imagine, but This Troper felt really bad for Mitsuo. While many fans despise him for the things he did, one must stop and consider what kind of life he must have lived that would drive him to [[spoiler: seek attention through murder]]. Not only that, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the person he killed may have been abusing him]]. When you fight his shadow, one of its lines is "I need proof that I exist...". This makes it very plausible that [[spoiler: Mitsuo was so ostracized by society that he thought the only way to get anyone to care about him was by becoming a murderer]]. Your mileage will definitely vary on this one, but This Troper finds it hard not to feel at least a little sorry for him.
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* FanDisservice:
** The Shadow versions of Yukiko, Rise, and Kanji.
** Shadow Chie, a whip bearing dominatrix [[SchoolgirlLesbians sitting on a stack of school girls]] is no better.
** Shadow Rise is disturbing even before she goes berserk.
** Hanako in the beauty pageant...
** [[spoiler: Izanami]] isn't an especially bad looking woman. Until you see her true form...
** The Shadow versions of Yukiko, Rise, and Kanji.
** Shadow Chie, a whip bearing dominatrix [[SchoolgirlLesbians sitting on a stack of school girls]] is no better.
** Shadow Rise is disturbing even before she goes berserk.
** Hanako in the beauty pageant...
** [[spoiler: Izanami]] isn't an especially bad looking woman. Until you see her true form...
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* AccidentalInnuendo: Chie: "[[BigBallOfViolence Alright guys, pile on! Are you ready?]]"
** And if refused: "We're not gonna do it? Aww..."
** And if refused: "We're not gonna do it? Aww..."
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* BittersweetEnding: No matter what you do, no matter what ending you get, at the end [[spoiler: the player leaves Inaba]].
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* CompleteMonster / FromNobodyToNightmare: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] While [[spoiler:Mitsuo]] ''did'' kill Morooka, he ultimately never becomes any more dangerous than the next kid. [[{{ThatOneBoss/Atlus}} His Shadow, on the other hand.....]]
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** Kanji's first weapon is a CHAIR. Enough said.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Oddly subverted. Even though [[spoiler: Adachi]] was designed to be one of these, his sizable fanbase doesn't romanticize him, just find him a fun character. Not that plenty of fans don't play it completely straight, though.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Most of the final S-Link cutscenes.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Oddly subverted. Even though [[spoiler: Adachi]] was designed to be one of these, his sizable fanbase doesn't romanticize him, just find him a fun character. Not that plenty of fans don't play it completely straight, though. There is actually fanfiction where he reforms, takes the main character's place in his absence, [[CrackPairing and]] [[{{Squick}} ends up with]] [[{{Lolicon}} Nanako.]] [[RonTheDeathEater Some even blame the main characters for not helping him face his inner issues]]!
* DracoInLeatherPants: Oddly subverted. Even though [[spoiler: Adachi]] was designed to be one of these, his sizable fanbase doesn't romanticize him, just find him a fun character. Not that plenty of fans don't play it completely straight, though. There is actually fanfiction where he reforms, takes the main character's place in his absence, [[CrackPairing and]] [[{{Squick}} ends up with]] [[{{Lolicon}} Nanako.]] [[RonTheDeathEater Some even blame the main characters for not helping him face his inner issues]]!
** Good gravy, notable in that Teddie probably has probably caused the growth of more shaking trees than the entire ''casts'' of other games in the franchise, as even the [[TheReveal reveals]] about him only really serve to open even more questions than answers about him, in a franchise known for thinking everything through. There's a fair amount of suspicion that this has been done deliberately [[CashCowFranchise to encourage people to buy a possible upcoming Persona 5]]. [[spoiler:There's even some theories out there that say that Teddie is [[strike:Nanako's]] just about every Persona 4 character's (and even a fairly believable one that he is the shadow of a Persona 3 character) shadow and even up to being this setting's equivalent of LouisCypher.]]
** Not nearly as bad as Teddie, but Naoto's spawned a few of her own. The idea that she's not just an {{Expy}} of Raidou or the ''Persona 3'' Protagonist but is in fact ''related'' to either character (or ''both'') is the most prominent. The latter is not helped at all by [[spoiler: the brief revelation that her parents died in an ''auto accident'' when she was "little"; checking the dates does in fact allow for the P3 Protagonist and her to be related]].
** And if Raidou the XIV had a child when he was about forty or so, and ''that'' child did the same, the grandchild would be Naoto's age. So if Raidou did, and lived into his nineties (and he would have too given that there are 14 Raidou's in 1200 years an he inherits the title at 17.), then he could be the detective grandfather Naoto refers to. And we know there's a "Kuzonoha Detective Agency" in Persona 2, which by WordOfGod is in the same universe as this one... Chie's (dub created) note about how her family is like the Kuzonohas and how her shadow has Kyouji Kuzunoha's outfit don't hurt (help?) matters either.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips
** Not nearly as bad as Teddie, but Naoto's spawned a few of her own. The idea that she's not just an {{Expy}} of Raidou or the ''Persona 3'' Protagonist but is in fact ''related'' to either character (or ''both'') is the most prominent. The latter is not helped at all by [[spoiler: the brief revelation that her parents died in an ''auto accident'' when she was "little"; checking the dates does in fact allow for the P3 Protagonist and her to be related]].
** And if Raidou the XIV had a child when he was about forty or so, and ''that'' child did the same, the grandchild would be Naoto's age. So if Raidou did, and lived into his nineties (and he would have too given that there are 14 Raidou's in 1200 years an he inherits the title at 17.), then he could be the detective grandfather Naoto refers to. And we know there's a "Kuzonoha Detective Agency" in Persona 2, which by WordOfGod is in the same universe as this one... Chie's (dub created) note about how her family is like the Kuzonohas and how her shadow has Kyouji Kuzunoha's outfit don't hurt (help?) matters either.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips
** Souji Seta for the protagonist, taken from the Manga Adaptation, as well as Brotag (frequently used on a... [[FourChan certain unscrupulous imageboard]]) due to his many friendships, especially his close one with Yosuke, and Banchou ("gang leader") in Japan, because of his persona Izanagi's uncanny resemblance to a stereotypical Banchou due to its BadassLongcoat (see [[http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Izanagi here]])
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** People refer to Yukiko as [[KillItWithFire Amagidyne.]]
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** People refer to Yukiko as [[KillItWithFire Amagidyne.]]Amagidyne]] or 'Drunkiko', due to the [[CrowningMomentOfFunny Kings Game scene.]]
* {{Fanon}}: Being a HeroicMime, the protagonist's personality is ultimately determined by the player, but some personality traits have become reoccuringly in fanfiction include;
** BadassBookworm
** DeadpanSnarker: His dialogue options tend to head towards OnlySaneMan most of the time, but sometimes head towards this.
** NiceGuy
** OnlySaneMan: Literal non-example, he's the only member of the party whose persona does not stem from having resolved his own mental issues (he hasn't got any). If you pay attention, most of his dialogue choices tend to edge towards this as well.
** BadassBookworm
** DeadpanSnarker: His dialogue options tend to head towards OnlySaneMan most of the time, but sometimes head towards this.
** NiceGuy
** OnlySaneMan: Literal non-example, he's the only member of the party whose persona does not stem from having resolved his own mental issues (he hasn't got any). If you pay attention, most of his dialogue choices tend to edge towards this as well.
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* HoYay:
** Kanji. His EvilCounterpart boss is even [[spoiler: a representation of his repressed sexuality -- which is actually his desire for acceptance.]]
** Plenty with Chie. The conversation on Saki's appearance on the Midnight Channel (My soulmate is a girl?). Who was Yukiko's ''Prince''? ''Chie''!
** Also, Teddie is totally gay for you. Seriously. Talk to him before you leave Inaba and you'll get a conversation in which Teddie ''offers to take off his outfit for you.''
** Yosuke has more than a few moments with ''you.'' "I'll invite Daisuke; don't want to look like we're dating." "You look like you're good with your hands--uh, never mind." "If I had to choose, I'd choose you! You're so handsome and reliable! Tee-hee!"
*** The entire Magician Rank 9 scene. It has the wonderfully ambiguous "I have family and friends... [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and you]]," as well as "You're special to me." Not to mention the Rank 8 scene. If you choose particular answers in Rank 7 AND "I understand" in this one, you will get the option to hug him (and I mean the around-the-waist kind) after the rank goes up.
*** Not to mention the Rank 5 scene where he awkwardly asks whether you keep [[PornStash the goods]] under your futon and if you've ever invited a girl into your room. If you answer the latter in the negative, Yosuke says "I guess you're more of a man's man than I thought!" and the narrator informs you that "Yosuke looks happy..."
** Kanji. His EvilCounterpart boss is even [[spoiler: a representation of his repressed sexuality -- which is actually his desire for acceptance.]]
** Plenty with Chie. The conversation on Saki's appearance on the Midnight Channel (My soulmate is a girl?). Who was Yukiko's ''Prince''? ''Chie''!
** Also, Teddie is totally gay for you. Seriously. Talk to him before you leave Inaba and you'll get a conversation in which Teddie ''offers to take off his outfit for you.''
** Yosuke has more than a few moments with ''you.'' "I'll invite Daisuke; don't want to look like we're dating." "You look like you're good with your hands--uh, never mind." "If I had to choose, I'd choose you! You're so handsome and reliable! Tee-hee!"
*** The entire Magician Rank 9 scene. It has the wonderfully ambiguous "I have family and friends... [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and you]]," as well as "You're special to me." Not to mention the Rank 8 scene. If you choose particular answers in Rank 7 AND "I understand" in this one, you will get the option to hug him (and I mean the around-the-waist kind) after the rank goes up.
*** Not to mention the Rank 5 scene where he awkwardly asks whether you keep [[PornStash the goods]] under your futon and if you've ever invited a girl into your room. If you answer the latter in the negative, Yosuke says "I guess you're more of a man's man than I thought!" and the narrator informs you that "Yosuke looks happy..."
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* LargeHam:
** MC, the [[FunnyAfro pink-afro wearing]] announcer of the culture festival.
** The Shadow Selves, especially Yukiko. One teacher even asks the class if they know where the term "ham" originated from.
*** Except Shadow Teddie. This does not reduce his creepy factor in the slightest.
* LesYay: One popular interpretation of Chie's and Yukiko's friendship. Of course it helps that their respective shadows actually talked about their dependancy on one another.
** MC, the [[FunnyAfro pink-afro wearing]] announcer of the culture festival.
** The Shadow Selves, especially Yukiko. One teacher even asks the class if they know where the term "ham" originated from.
*** Except Shadow Teddie. This does not reduce his creepy factor in the slightest.
* LesYay: One popular interpretation of Chie's and Yukiko's friendship. Of course it helps that their respective shadows actually talked about their dependancy on one another.
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* LargeHam:
** MC, the [[FunnyAfro pink-afro wearing]] announcer of the culture festival.
** The Shadow Selves,JerkassWoobie: Sometimes Yosuke's status as ButtMonkey goes too far, especially Yukiko. One teacher even asks the class if they know where the term "ham" originated from.
*** Except Shadow Teddie. Thiswhen it comes to Saki...''but then'' he also does not reduce things like [[MoralDissonance mock Kanji's sexuality]] and [[WhatTheHellHero sign the girls up for a Beauty Pagaent against their will.]] Naturally, this makes him something of a BaseBreaker.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: The protagonist, who is also a MemeticSexGod. ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUKg5amExT4 No, really.]]'' Probably doesn't hurt that he can canonically end the game with six girlfriends and inspire a PrecociousCrush in hiscreepy factor in cousin as well as a [[HospitalHottie 27 year old nurse]].
** Kanji's ambiguous sexuality and chemistry with EVERYONE on theslightest.
* LesYay: Oneteam has resulted in fans shipping him with E_V_E_R_Y_B_O_D_Y. Naoto's still the most popular interpretation of Chie's ship for him, though, and Yukiko's friendship. Of course it helps probably the most canon.
** Naoto is also one of these.
* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler:Izanami]]
* MemeticBadass: Kanji
* MemeticMolester: Igor has a very creepy expression thattheir respective shadows actually talked about their dependancy looks like he's going to molest you. Doesn't help that he summons you from your dreams.
--> [[http://hiimdaisy.livejournal.com/26044.html "Helllllllllllllllo. PERSONA PERSONA PERSONA SOCIAL LINKS SOCIAL LINKS SOCIAL LINKS"]]
** [[spoiler:Adachi]] also qualifies.
* MemeticMutation: [[AccidentalInnuendo Kou looooooooves them balls.]]
** Bitches and Whores.
* MostAnnoyingSound: The squeaking Teddie does when he walks. It's enough that some players refuse to use him onone another.dungeon crawls for specifically that reason. [[YourMilageMayVary His voice could arguably qualify]].
* MostWonderfulSound: "Welcome home, Big Bro!" [[spoiler:Once it's gone, you ''will'' miss it.]]
** MC, the [[FunnyAfro pink-afro wearing]] announcer of the culture festival.
** The Shadow Selves,
*** Except Shadow Teddie. This
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: The protagonist, who is also a MemeticSexGod. ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUKg5amExT4 No, really.]]'' Probably doesn't hurt that he can canonically end the game with six girlfriends and inspire a PrecociousCrush in his
** Kanji's ambiguous sexuality and chemistry with EVERYONE on the
* LesYay: One
** Naoto is also one of these.
* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler:Izanami]]
* MemeticBadass: Kanji
* MemeticMolester: Igor has a very creepy expression that
--> [[http://hiimdaisy.livejournal.com/26044.html "Helllllllllllllllo. PERSONA PERSONA PERSONA SOCIAL LINKS SOCIAL LINKS SOCIAL LINKS"]]
** [[spoiler:Adachi]] also qualifies.
* MemeticMutation: [[AccidentalInnuendo Kou looooooooves them balls.]]
** Bitches and Whores.
* MostAnnoyingSound: The squeaking Teddie does when he walks. It's enough that some players refuse to use him on
* MostWonderfulSound: "Welcome home, Big Bro!" [[spoiler:Once it's gone, you ''will'' miss it.]]
** [[FridgeHorror Remember the warning notes?]] [[spoiler:Adachi [[MoralEventHorizon arranged for his co-worker's seven-year-old daughter to]] [[CompleteMonster be thrown into the Midnight Channel and killed]].]] Just so you wouldn't interrupt his [[ForTheEvulz show]].
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* [[ThatOneSidequest That One S-Link]]: Margret's S-Link requires you to fuse Personas with specific abilities. Prepare to sink a LOT of spending money into the Compendium, looking up the correct Arcana combinations, praying that the resulting Persona inherits the right moves, etc.
** Ai is the easiest Social Link character to piss off. One wrong move, and you can have a Reversed or even Broken S-Link...
* ToyShip: Errand Boy andSpacy Girl.Spacey Girl.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: The Fox is actually [[spoiler:a female. It has kids at the end of the game]].
** Ai is the easiest Social Link character to piss off. One wrong move, and you can have a Reversed or even Broken S-Link...
* ToyShip: Errand Boy and
* ViewerGenderConfusion: The Fox is actually [[spoiler:a female. It has kids at the end of the game]].
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** The Goho-M item carries over a lovely little pun about 'going home' that was built into the japanese Japanese name of the item. Don't ask us what it was because we can't remember.
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* NeverLiveItDown: The guys crossdressing. Take a wild guess how much fanart there is of it?
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* BreatherBoss: Shadow Naoto is [[YourMileageMayVary arguably]] relatively simple in comparison to the bosses that come before her (Shadow Teddie and Shadow Mitsuo), being vulnerable to Silence and only getting one turn per round as opposed to Mitsuo's two.
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* CrazyAwesome: The main character. Igor says that it's his thoughts that shaped the Velvet Room into the form it has in this game, and he made it into a ''[[{{Ptitle8px80d2wm3pd}} space limo]].''
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* CrazyAwesome: The main character. Igor says that it's his thoughts that shaped the Velvet Room into the form it has in this game, and he made it into a ''[[{{Ptitle8px80d2wm3pd}} space limo]].''space limo.''
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* ParanoiaFuel:
** So you're saying a secret hell populated by demons that actively try to carry out my gruesome death hides behind that television screen?
** [[spoiler: Sometimes, when you go to the police, they will help you. And sometimes they will manipulate you into condemning innocent people who ''you'' think you are saving to an almost certain death, and they will do it all for fun. Good luck talking to the right officer!]]
** As if walking through heavy fog wasn't creepy enough, this game comes along to drive home the idea that monsters are lurking in it [[spoiler: and their world is merging with ours]].
* PlayerPunch:
** [[spoiler:Nanako's kidnapping, and her subsequent dungeon.]]
** [[spoiler: Not to mention her apparent death.]]
*** [[spoiler: And the utter silence when you come home after that, without Nanako's cheerful "Welcome Home, Big Bro! ^_^" to greet you]]
** [[spoiler: Take revenge on her behalf... and get a one-way path to the bad ending, where ''she dies.'']]
** So you're saying a secret hell populated by demons that actively try to carry out my gruesome death hides behind that television screen?
** [[spoiler: Sometimes, when you go to the police, they will help you. And sometimes they will manipulate you into condemning innocent people who ''you'' think you are saving to an almost certain death, and they will do it all for fun. Good luck talking to the right officer!]]
** As if walking through heavy fog wasn't creepy enough, this game comes along to drive home the idea that monsters are lurking in it [[spoiler: and their world is merging with ours]].
* PlayerPunch:
** [[spoiler:Nanako's kidnapping, and her subsequent dungeon.]]
** [[spoiler: Not to mention her apparent death.]]
*** [[spoiler: And the utter silence when you come home after that, without Nanako's cheerful "Welcome Home, Big Bro! ^_^" to greet you]]
** [[spoiler: Take revenge on her behalf... and get a one-way path to the bad ending, where ''she dies.'']]
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*** Except Shadow Teddie. This does not reduce his creepy factor in the slightest.
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* CrazyAwesome: The main character. Igor says that it's his thoughts that shaped the Velvet Room into the form it has in this game, and he made it into a ''[[{{Ptitle8px80d2wm3pd}} space limo]].''
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*** Nanako is the {{Woobie}} Queen of the game. How sad and lonely is she? Well, her Midnight Channel dungeon is a storybook Heaven filled with fluffy clouds, rainbows, marble and gold, and eventually the characters figure out why: somewhere deep inside, Nanako ''wants to die'' so she can see her mother again. ''Did we mention she's six years old?''
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*** Nanako is the {{Woobie}} Queen of the game. How sad and lonely is she? Well, her Midnight Channel dungeon is a storybook Heaven filled with fluffy clouds, rainbows, marble and gold, and eventually the characters figure out why: somewhere deep inside, Nanako ''wants to die'' so she can see her mother again. ''Did ''[[TroublingUnchildhoodBehavior Did we mention mention]] [[HarmfulToMinors she's six years old?''old?]]''
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* CharacterAlignment
** LawfulGood: Chie and Nanako.
** NeutralGood: Most of your party, including the Protagonist, Yosuke, Yukiko, Rise, and eventually Teddie. [[spoiler: Namatame is a [[ByronicHero tragic example]].]]
*** It is worth noting that dialogue choices allow the Protagonist to lean a bit to the Lawful or Chaotic side, although this doesn't really have any effect on the outcome of the game.
** ChaoticGood: Kanji by the end of the game.
** LawfulNeutral: Ryotaro Dojima and Naoto, although by the end of the game both strongly lean towards LawfulGood.
** TrueNeutral: Teddie's starting alignment.
** ChaoticNeutral: Kanji's starting alignment.
** NeutralEvil: [[spoiler:[[CompleteMonster Adachi]], though he has some ChaoticEvil tendencies.]]
** ChaoticEvil: [[spoiler: Mitsuo.]]
** LawfulGood: Chie and Nanako.
** NeutralGood: Most of your party, including the Protagonist, Yosuke, Yukiko, Rise, and eventually Teddie. [[spoiler: Namatame is a [[ByronicHero tragic example]].]]
*** It is worth noting that dialogue choices allow the Protagonist to lean a bit to the Lawful or Chaotic side, although this doesn't really have any effect on the outcome of the game.
** ChaoticGood: Kanji by the end of the game.
** LawfulNeutral: Ryotaro Dojima and Naoto, although by the end of the game both strongly lean towards LawfulGood.
** TrueNeutral: Teddie's starting alignment.
** ChaoticNeutral: Kanji's starting alignment.
** NeutralEvil: [[spoiler:[[CompleteMonster Adachi]], though he has some ChaoticEvil tendencies.]]
** ChaoticEvil: [[spoiler: Mitsuo.]]
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* TheWoobie:
** While most of Yosuke's "moments" are funny, there are a few moments where the laughter just has to stop (pretty much anything involving Saki after the second murder, [[spoiler:especially since after she's killed you find out she hated Yosuke all along even though he fell in love with her.)]]
** Namatame's pretty damned pitiful as well. [[spoiler:Getting the love of his life murdered by a madman, getting caught up in said madman's plot as a pawn, being wrongly framed for the murders he was trying to stop...]] nothing seems to go right for him. [[spoiler:You can add to his suffering by throwing him into a TV, but you'll be punished for it with the bad ending.]]
** 2011 was a really bad year for Naoto. [[spoiler: She has no friends in Inaba, the police only tolerate her when they need her, The investigation team may as well have neon signs advertising that they are some how connected with multiple murders. Oh yes, her gender and isolation issues are as bad as Kanji's. You feel glad when she finds [[{{Nakama}} people who will like her for who she is.]]]]
** Come to think of it, a ''[[DysfunctionJunction lot]]'' of the Social Links have endured a lot of pain. From Ai, [[spoiler:who creates the image of a [[TheLibby social dominator]] to conceal the fact that she's suicidally depressed]], to Hisano the self-loathing widow, they should be ''really'' glad that the MC is a WarriorTherapist.
** Kanji is another one; he acts like he does because he wants to be accepted and because people made fun of his hobbie (later, job).
** And of course, Nanako whose sadness and loneliness whenever she's left to take care of herself by her dad is utterly heartbreaking. Her happiest moments came from ''a commercial jingle'' before you came to live at her house. It's no wonder that she latches onto you as a brother instantly. Her Woobie powers are so great that a group of teenagers are repeatedly willing to hang out with a 6 year old kid just to cheer her up.
*** Nanako is the {{Woobie}} Queen of the game. How sad and lonely is she? Well, her Midnight Channel dungeon is a storybook Heaven filled with fluffy clouds, rainbows, marble and gold, and eventually the characters figure out why: somewhere deep inside, Nanako ''wants to die'' so she can see her mother again. ''Did we mention she's six years old?''
** While most of Yosuke's "moments" are funny, there are a few moments where the laughter just has to stop (pretty much anything involving Saki after the second murder, [[spoiler:especially since after she's killed you find out she hated Yosuke all along even though he fell in love with her.)]]
** Namatame's pretty damned pitiful as well. [[spoiler:Getting the love of his life murdered by a madman, getting caught up in said madman's plot as a pawn, being wrongly framed for the murders he was trying to stop...]] nothing seems to go right for him. [[spoiler:You can add to his suffering by throwing him into a TV, but you'll be punished for it with the bad ending.]]
** 2011 was a really bad year for Naoto. [[spoiler: She has no friends in Inaba, the police only tolerate her when they need her, The investigation team may as well have neon signs advertising that they are some how connected with multiple murders. Oh yes, her gender and isolation issues are as bad as Kanji's. You feel glad when she finds [[{{Nakama}} people who will like her for who she is.]]]]
** Come to think of it, a ''[[DysfunctionJunction lot]]'' of the Social Links have endured a lot of pain. From Ai, [[spoiler:who creates the image of a [[TheLibby social dominator]] to conceal the fact that she's suicidally depressed]], to Hisano the self-loathing widow, they should be ''really'' glad that the MC is a WarriorTherapist.
** Kanji is another one; he acts like he does because he wants to be accepted and because people made fun of his hobbie (later, job).
** And of course, Nanako whose sadness and loneliness whenever she's left to take care of herself by her dad is utterly heartbreaking. Her happiest moments came from ''a commercial jingle'' before you came to live at her house. It's no wonder that she latches onto you as a brother instantly. Her Woobie powers are so great that a group of teenagers are repeatedly willing to hang out with a 6 year old kid just to cheer her up.
*** Nanako is the {{Woobie}} Queen of the game. How sad and lonely is she? Well, her Midnight Channel dungeon is a storybook Heaven filled with fluffy clouds, rainbows, marble and gold, and eventually the characters figure out why: somewhere deep inside, Nanako ''wants to die'' so she can see her mother again. ''Did we mention she's six years old?''
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
** The Genesis, which is the boss theme for the final boss in the True Ending. The music is very oppressive until the climactic fanfare of Reach Out To The Truth comes in, representing everything you've fought for so far.
** Other candidates are "I'll Face Myself"-Boss Theme and "The Almighty".
** Other good mentions are "Fog" and "Never More".
** The Genesis, which is the boss theme for the final boss in the True Ending. The music is very oppressive until the climactic fanfare of Reach Out To The Truth comes in, representing everything you've fought for so far.
** Other candidates are "I'll Face Myself"-Boss Theme and "The Almighty".
** Other good mentions are "Fog" and "Never More".
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* GoddamnedBoss: Contrarian King, the BonusBoss in [[spoiler:Shadow Yukiko's dungeon]]. He has insanely high Attack power for his level and his [[ThatOneAttack Rampage attack]] can kill the entire party in one hit if you go back and attempt to defeat him immediately after clearing the dungeon the first time, even if defensive buffs are in play. However, he becomes rather easy if you grind through another dungeon or two and then return, or have a Persona with Null Physical on a New Game+ .
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** And then there's the protagonist and [[TheNotLoveInterest Yosuke]]. Easily one of the most popular ships in the fandom (both western and eastern), despite Yosuke not being an actual GayOption for the protagonist, largely because of the considerable HoYay vibes between them.
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** And then there's the protagonist and [[TheNotLoveInterest Yosuke]]. Easily one of the most popular ships in the fandom (both for western and eastern), despite Yosuke not being an actual GayOption for the protagonist, eastern fans), which is largely because of the considerable HoYay vibes between them.
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* BittersweetEnding: No matter what you do, no matter what ending you get, at the end [[spoiler: the player leaves Inaba]].
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* CrackPairing: Japanese fandom has a large following for Adachi/aged-up Nanako, however little sense it makes.
* EarWorm: Notably the main theme song "Pursuing My True Self, "Your Affection," and "Jika Net Tanaka." The Junes and Tanaka's Amazing Commodities theme are also contenders.
* EarWorm: Notably the main theme song "Pursuing My True Self, "Your Affection," and "Jika Net Tanaka." The Junes and Tanaka's Amazing Commodities theme are also contenders.
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* FanNickname:
** Captain Pistol, referring to Naoto.
** Brotagonist for the protagonist/Souji, due to his many friendships and especially his close one to Yosuke.
** Also Mr. Pringles, referring to the King sub-type of shadow.
** Yosuke is also affectionately nicknamed as ''Brosuke'', due to his "Bros before hos" Level 10 S. Link event.
*** Yosuke's name seems to lend itself especially well to this: Moesuke, Failsuke, Closetsuke...
*** Yosuke also has a new nickname thanks to so many of his {{HoYay}} scenes: Yosgay. Also doesn't help that he has the Yaoi submissive term in his name.
** Also, "Cabbage Adachi", mainly due to his dialogue if you talk to him at Junes at certain points. He speaks passionately about having a cabbage-centric dinner because he can't afford much else.
** People refer to Yukiko as [[KillItWithFire Amagidyne.]]
** Ryotaro Brojima. Mostly because you are the most likely to be the murderer, but are above suspicion
** The Inaba Scoobies for the Investigation Team, if the WMG and IJBM pages for this game are anything to go by.
** Captain Pistol, referring to Naoto.
** Brotagonist for the protagonist/Souji, due to his many friendships and especially his close one to Yosuke.
** Also Mr. Pringles, referring to the King sub-type of shadow.
** Yosuke is also affectionately nicknamed as ''Brosuke'', due to his "Bros before hos" Level 10 S. Link event.
*** Yosuke's name seems to lend itself especially well to this: Moesuke, Failsuke, Closetsuke...
*** Yosuke also has a new nickname thanks to so many of his {{HoYay}} scenes: Yosgay. Also doesn't help that he has the Yaoi submissive term in his name.
** Also, "Cabbage Adachi", mainly due to his dialogue if you talk to him at Junes at certain points. He speaks passionately about having a cabbage-centric dinner because he can't afford much else.
** People refer to Yukiko as [[KillItWithFire Amagidyne.]]
** Ryotaro Brojima. Mostly because you are the most likely to be the murderer, but are above suspicion
** The Inaba Scoobies for the Investigation Team, if the WMG and IJBM pages for this game are anything to go by.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: On certain days, Mitsuo can be found standing across the street from Tatsumi Textiles. Talk to him, and he'll suspect Morooka of being the murderer. If you know what happens later in the game, this is either amusing or disturbing.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This holds true in relation to ''{{Persona 3}}''. ''Persona 3'' was a little better received in Japan and is generally considered the better of the two games, and got ''far'' more spinoff merch due to the incredible demand; ''Persona 4'', meanwhile, still got a decent reception but not a great one and not much secondary merch. The opposite holds true in America and Europe, though; while ''Persona 3'' did basically bring real mainstream attention onto the franchise, ''Persona 4'' reviewed '''much''' higher and is generally considered by everyone to be a whisper away from total perfection and quickly became the best-selling SMT title in the West ''ever'' (which actually had the effect of making ''Persona 4'' the best-selling SMT game ever due to worldwide sales).
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel:
** [[spoiler:Kunino-Sagiri]] will "save" you!
** Also [[spoiler:Shadow Teddie.]]
** [[spoiler: Shadow Rise, especially the attack animations. She starts literally ''humping'' the pole at one point. With squishing noises.]] Completely creepy.
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel:
** [[spoiler:Kunino-Sagiri]] will "save" you!
** Also [[spoiler:Shadow Teddie.]]
** [[spoiler: Shadow Rise, especially the attack animations. She starts literally ''humping'' the pole at one point. With squishing noises.]] Completely creepy.
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* HolyShitQuotient: First time the player fights a [[spoiler: TANK]].
* InternetBackdraft: Kanji's ambiguous sexuality. ''Especially'' since any outcome would determine whether a Kanji/Naoto pairing is possible or not.
* InternetBackdraft: Kanji's ambiguous sexuality. ''Especially'' since any outcome would determine whether a Kanji/Naoto pairing is possible or not.
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* ToyShip: Errand Boy and Spacy Girl.
* WhatAnIdiot: So your nephew, who you've suspected for a while of involving himself in your murder case, [[spoiler:suddenly receives a threatening letter saying someone close to him will die if he doesn't butt out]]? Why, obviously the right thing to do is [[spoiler:''leave your seven year-old daughter at home alone while you interrogate him at the police station'']]. ''Awesome'' parenting skills, Dojima! Of course, if you follow his and Nanako's social links, you'll learn that parenting really is ''not'' one of Dojima's strong points.
* {{Woolseyism}}:
** Teddie's verbal tic was changed from adding the word "-kuma" to words in his sentences to making bad puns, many involving the word "bear" in some way. This arguably counts for his name, too, since the connotations of a cutesy bear calling itself "Kuma" ("Bear" in Japanese) don't translate well into English.
** Also, changing "Mayonaka TV" to "The Midnight Channel".
** "Everyday Younglife Junes" to "Every day's great at your Junes!"
** You get to engage in some Woolseyfication of your own if you take the part-time job as a translator. You'll often be asked about how you want to translate something culture-specific, like idioms or children's speech patterns, and basically have two options - [[BlindIdiotTranslation do it literally]], or creatively improvise. [[{{Anvilicious}} You have a chance to get paid MUCH better if you improvise]] (assuming you don't [[{{Macekre}} screw it up]]).
** The item that instantly transports you out of a dungeon was originally called "Kaereiru", from the Japanese "kaeru", meaning "return." Stateside, it's called "Goho-M." This also counts as a StealthPun that most people don't get until they say "Goho-M" out loud. Go on. Try it.
** The TakeThat to ''{{Twilight}}'' was most likely a creation of the translator.
** The final scene for the Fortune social link originally about [[{{Bokukko}} the choice of pronoun]], is changed to [[PronounTrouble the pitch of voice.]]
** The mention of Naoto's family being like Raidou Kuzunoha the 14th is the result of the translators lacking any other option to translate Chie's reference to a Japanese book series about a family of LegacyCharacter detectives. Does not stop the line from fueling insane levels of EpilepticTrees.
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* WhatAnIdiot: So your nephew, who you've suspected for a while of involving himself in your murder case, [[spoiler:suddenly receives a threatening letter saying someone close to him will die if he doesn't butt out]]? Why, obviously the right thing to do is [[spoiler:''leave your seven year-old daughter at home alone while you interrogate him at the police station'']]. ''Awesome'' parenting skills, Dojima! Of course, if you follow his and Nanako's social links, you'll learn that parenting really is ''not'' one of Dojima's strong points.
* {{Woolseyism}}:
** Teddie's verbal tic was changed from adding the word "-kuma" to words in his sentences to making bad puns, many involving the word "bear" in some way. This arguably counts for his name, too, since the connotations of a cutesy bear calling itself "Kuma" ("Bear" in Japanese) don't translate well into English.
** Also, changing "Mayonaka TV" to "The Midnight Channel".
** "Everyday Younglife Junes" to "Every day's great at your Junes!"
** You get to engage in some Woolseyfication of your own if you take the part-time job as a translator. You'll often be asked about how you want to translate something culture-specific, like idioms or children's speech patterns, and basically have two options - [[BlindIdiotTranslation do it literally]], or creatively improvise. [[{{Anvilicious}} You have a chance to get paid MUCH better if you improvise]] (assuming you don't [[{{Macekre}} screw it up]]).
** The item that instantly transports you out of a dungeon was originally called "Kaereiru", from the Japanese "kaeru", meaning "return." Stateside, it's called "Goho-M." This also counts as a StealthPun that most people don't get until they say "Goho-M" out loud. Go on. Try it.
** The TakeThat to ''{{Twilight}}'' was most likely a creation of the translator.
** The final scene for the Fortune social link originally about [[{{Bokukko}} the choice of pronoun]], is changed to [[PronounTrouble the pitch of voice.]]
** The mention of Naoto's family being like Raidou Kuzunoha the 14th is the result of the translators lacking any other option to translate Chie's reference to a Japanese book series about a family of LegacyCharacter detectives. Does not stop the line from fueling insane levels of EpilepticTrees.
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** Technically speaking, that's only referring to their ages when the protagonist first arrives at Inaba, since [[spoiler: Rise and Naoto at least]] have already turned 16 by the time they [[spoiler: join the party]]. However, this and the fact that the protagonist is only about a year older himself don't necessarily make the implications any less unfortunate.
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* UnfortunateImplications: The player can eventually sleep with [[spoiler: Naoto and Rise]] who are both only 15.
** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality.]]
* UnfortunateImplications: The player can eventually sleep with [[spoiler: Naoto and Rise]] who are both only 15.
** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality.]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: The player can eventually sleep with [[spoiler:Naoto and Rise]] Naoto, Rise, or Ayane]] who are both all only 15.
** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality.]] Ayane's is almost as bad due to being the TokenLoli]].
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** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality.
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** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality.]]
** [[spoiler: Naoto's is even worse because of the fact that the player can ask her to act more feminine, which leads to her wearing a schoolgirl outfit, kinda almost like forcing her to reject her more masculine personality.]]
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** More notable, perhaps, is Chie and the fact that she is ''rarely'' paired with the protagonist - if she's ever paired, it's usually with[[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Yukiko]], or sometimes [[BetaCouple Yosuke]]. Also, [[spoiler: if Naoto is not paired with the Protagonist, she's almost ''always'' paired with Kanji. [[AmbiguouslyGay Often for comedic effect.]] ]]
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** More notable, perhaps, is Chie and the fact that she is ''rarely'' paired with the protagonist - if she's ever paired, it's usually with[[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship with [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Yukiko]], or sometimes [[BetaCouple Yosuke]]. Also, [[spoiler: if Naoto is not paired with the Protagonist, she's almost ''always'' paired with Kanji. [[AmbiguouslyGay Often for comedic effect.]] ]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: There really is no reason for the protagonist to be able to summon multiple personas, besides being a GodModSue. But then you realize that a Persona is a manifestation of your true self. Thus, EVERYONE who plays the game is the protagonist, which means DIFFERENT personalities.
* FridgeHorror: Though [[spoiler: its implied in the ending]], there might be another clue that hints that Midnight Channel [[spoiler: Has been around for a LONG time.]] Remember the paintings of those people on the spiral at the entrance of the Midnight Channel? [[spoiler: It could be people who were murdered before. And this painting is there even when you first enter the Midnight Channel. This reinforces the idea that the events of the game has happened before. And by the looks of the numbers of people, its was A LOT.]]
* FridgeHorror: Though [[spoiler: its implied in the ending]], there might be another clue that hints that Midnight Channel [[spoiler: Has been around for a LONG time.]] Remember the paintings of those people on the spiral at the entrance of the Midnight Channel? [[spoiler: It could be people who were murdered before. And this painting is there even when you first enter the Midnight Channel. This reinforces the idea that the events of the game has happened before. And by the looks of the numbers of people, its was A LOT.]]
