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Wrong-way hindsight and ROCEJ


* HilariousInHindsight: [[http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7193908/ This fan comic]], done about 2 years before the episode aired.



** Similarly, it’s almost hard not to talk about the episode without discussing the harassment writer Amy Keating Rogers got from some fans, which culminated in Rogers receiving a huge amount of hate mail and ''death threats''.

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** Similarly, it’s almost hard not to talk about the episode without discussing the harassment writer Amy Keating Rogers got from some fans, which culminated in Rogers receiving a huge amount of hate mail and ''death threats''.fans.
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** "Find The Music In You" is either an amazing work of quartet singing, or the same sort of lazy writing on par with "[[Music/LadyGaga Born This Way]]" and "[[Music/MileyCyrus Wrecking Ball]]".

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** "Find The Music In You" is either an amazing work of quartet singing, or the same sort of lazy writing on par with "[[Music/LadyGaga Born This Way]]" and "[[Music/MileyCyrus Wrecking Ball]]".writing.
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How is that logic in any way? Why would it have a different effect depending on if it's accidental or intentionnal?


* FridgeBrilliance: The first incidence of "Flutterguy" was due to accidental exposure to live Poison Joke; in this episode, the effect was deliberately created with an herbal extract. It makes perfect sense that this episode's Flutterguy would have a different voice.
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** Similarly, it’s almost hard not to talk about the episode without discussing the harassment writer Amy Keating Rogers got from some fans.

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** Similarly, it’s almost hard not to talk about the episode without discussing the harassment writer Amy Keating Rogers got from some fans.fans, which culminated in Rogers receiving a huge amount of hate mail and ''death threats''.
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** Pinkie's insensitivity towards Fluttershy. It's either [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny and over the top]], or [[KickTheDog it's an extremely unfunny part of the episode]] that sours the whole experience. Pinkie's behavior has been a point of discussion about whether it's in character, completely out of character, inconsistent with past Pinkie characterization -- eg: "Griffon the Brush Off" shows a Pinkie much more sympathetic to Fluttershy's fragile nature -- or even the fact that Fluttershy effectively does the same to Rainbow Dash in "Sonic Rainboom". Another group argues that regardless of whether or not it's in character, it was still wrong because not only did it [[NiceJobBreakingItHero indirectly cause all the conflict in the episode]], her behavior was never properly addressed in it; such as by having Pinkie realize and make a genuine apology, or have others [[WhatTheHellHero call her out for it in a meaningful way]].

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** Pinkie's insensitivity towards Fluttershy. It's either [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny and over the top]], or [[KickTheDog it's an extremely unfunny part of the episode]] that sours the whole experience. Pinkie's behavior has been a point of discussion about whether it's in character, completely out of character, inconsistent with past Pinkie characterization -- eg: "Griffon the Brush Off" shows a Pinkie much more sympathetic to Fluttershy's fragile nature -- or even the fact that Fluttershy effectively does the same to Rainbow Dash in "Sonic Rainboom". Another group argues that regardless of whether or not it's in character, it was still wrong because not only did it [[NiceJobBreakingItHero indirectly cause all the conflict in the episode]], her behavior was never properly addressed in it; such as by [[HeelRealization having Pinkie realize she crossed a line]] and make a genuine apology, or have by having others [[WhatTheHellHero call her out for it on her actions in a meaningful way]].

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** Pinkie's insensitivity towards Fluttershy. It's either funny and over the top, or it's an extremely unfunny part of the episode that sours the whole experience. Pinkie's behavior has been a point of discussion about whether it's in character, completely out of character, inconsistent with past Pinkie characterization (eg: "Griffon the Brush Off" shows a Pinkie much more sympathetic to Fluttershy's fragile nature), or even the fact that Fluttershy effectively does the same to Rainbow Dash in "Sonic Rainboom". Another group argues that regardless of whether or not it's in character, it was still wrong because her behavior was never properly addressed in the episode (such as by having Pinkie make a genuine apology, or have others call her out for it in a way that stuck).

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** Pinkie's insensitivity towards Fluttershy. It's either [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny and over the top, top]], or [[KickTheDog it's an extremely unfunny part of the episode episode]] that sours the whole experience. Pinkie's behavior has been a point of discussion about whether it's in character, completely out of character, inconsistent with past Pinkie characterization (eg: -- eg: "Griffon the Brush Off" shows a Pinkie much more sympathetic to Fluttershy's fragile nature), nature -- or even the fact that Fluttershy effectively does the same to Rainbow Dash in "Sonic Rainboom". Another group argues that regardless of whether or not it's in character, it was still wrong because not only did it [[NiceJobBreakingItHero indirectly cause all the conflict in the episode]], her behavior was never properly addressed in the episode (such it; such as by having Pinkie realize and make a genuine apology, or have others [[WhatTheHellHero call her out for it in a way that stuck).meaningful way]].



** Who else in Ponyville do we know that's shy about singing on stage...and is rumored to be so good that it might earn her a cutie mark?
** The fact that Pinkie Pie's treatment of Fluttershy was never properly handled.

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** Who else in Ponyville do we know that's shy about singing on stage... and is rumored to be so good that it might earn her a cutie mark?
** The fact that Pinkie Pie's [[JerkassBall outright horrid treatment of Fluttershy Fluttershy]] -- and to a lesser extent, Big Mac when he loses his voice, thus starting off the episode's conflict -- was never properly handled.



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Fluttershy's showboating during the Ponytones' performances at the elementary school and Sugar Cube Corner sounds a lot like the gospel hymn "Deep Down in My Heart." Her improvised lyrics even include the phrase [[ShoutOut "deep down in your heart."]]

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Fluttershy's showboating during the Ponytones' performances at the elementary school and Sugar Cube Corner sounds a lot like the gospel hymn "Deep Down in My Heart." Heart". Her improvised lyrics even include the phrase [[ShoutOut "deep down in your heart."]]
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** It's not easy discuss this episode, which won Creator/AndreaLibman an award for best voice acting, without bringing up the debate over Pinkie Pie's [[JerkassBall Characterization]].

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** It's not easy to discuss this episode, which won Creator/AndreaLibman an award for best voice acting, without bringing up the debate over Pinkie Pie's [[JerkassBall Characterization]].
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* FanNickname: "Pegasus Dad" was given the name "Nightjar" [[MeaningfulName (the family of birds that includes whippoorwills)]] by [[http://www.reddit.com/r/listofponies/comments/1ze9md/pegasus_m_coatwhite_maneblack_eyesgreen_cmguitar/ Reddit users]].

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Being merged with Mis Blamed.


* MisBlamed: Fans were very quick to jump on writer Amy Keating Rogers's twitter and mail to start threatening her due to the Pinkie scenes in this episode. Eventually she revealed on Twitter that Pinkie's scenes were added by request to her original script, and many people had to approve it before airing, not just her.



* ScapegoatCreator: Fans were very quick to jump on writer Amy Keating Rogers's twitter and mail to start threatening her due to the Pinkie scenes in this episode. Eventually she revealed on Twitter that Pinkie's scenes were added by request to her original script, and many people had to approve it before airing. Not just her.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Back in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E5GriffonTheBrushOff "Griffon The Brush Off"]] Pinkie said that Fluttershy was too sensitive to be pranked. Looks like someone's forgotten about that...
** Also from the same episode, Pinkie says "I can take it, but nopony makes Fluttershy cry! ''Nopony!''" Granted, [[InnocentlyInsensitive Pinkie Pie wasn't intentionally trying to upset her]], but that's still ironically harsh.
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** Any crossover fanarts between this show and [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess the Disney princesses]], since Fluttershy's musical number in the beginning where she is singing to her animal friends is very reminiscent of {{WesternAnimation/Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}} (among others).
** [[http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7193908/ This fan comic]], done about 2 years before the episode aired.
** The "Ponies in Book Land" arc of the [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW comic book series]] has a scene where Fluttershy is trying to her animal friends away from a princess from a storybook because she keeps constantly trying to sing to them.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Back in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E5GriffonTheBrushOff "Griffon The Brush Off"]] Pinkie said that Fluttershy was too sensitive to be pranked. Looks like someone's forgotten about that...
** Also from the same episode, Pinkie says "I can take it, but nopony makes Fluttershy cry! ''Nopony!''" Granted, [[InnocentlyInsensitive Pinkie Pie wasn't intentionally trying to upset her]], but that's still ironically harsh.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Any crossover fanarts between this show and [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess the Disney princesses]], since Fluttershy's musical number in the beginning where she is singing to her animal friends is very reminiscent of {{WesternAnimation/Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}} (among others).
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HilariousInHindsight: [[http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7193908/ This fan comic]], done about 2 years before the episode aired.
** The "Ponies in Book Land" arc of the [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW comic book series]] has a scene where Fluttershy is trying to her animal friends away from a princess from a storybook because she keeps constantly trying to sing to them.
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** It only lasts for a few frames, but during the performance at the school Big Mac can be seen staring and sweating[[labelnote:note]]More likely due to the fact he's having trouble keeping up with Fluttershy's ad libbing[[/labelnote]] at Fluttershy [[http://derpiboo.ru/552971 while she's shaking her butt]].

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** It only lasts for a few frames, but during the performance at the school Big Mac can be seen staring and sweating[[labelnote:note]]More likely due to the fact he's having trouble keeping up with Fluttershy's ad libbing[[/labelnote]] at Fluttershy [[http://derpiboo.ru/552971 while she's shaking her butt]].butt.
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** Similarly, it’s almost hard not to talk about the episode without discussing the harassment writer Amy Keating Rogers got from some fans, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and we’ll leave it at that]].

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** Similarly, it’s almost hard not to talk about the episode without discussing the harassment writer Amy Keating Rogers got from some fans, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and we’ll leave it at that]].fans.
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** The fact that Pinkie Pie's treatment of Fluttershy was never properly handled.

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